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Started by Pigskin, September 07, 2025, 08:45:05 PM

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Ducky

Expecting a blowout loss if Collaros is out.

BLM and that receiving core are going to torch the depleted secondary. 40 points.


TecnoGenius

BLM has dialed-out days.  We can hope this is one of them.  :-\

I would find a way to get our top DBs on Kenny.  You don't need 2, but you need a top one matched.  The problem is Kenny is wide, but Vaval/Lawson won't cut it.  So either Houston comes in and takes his coverage, or you find a way to get Holm/Nichols to play wide (yes, sounds crazy, but the alternative...).

HAM is a hot/cold team, which is strange because they are very well balanced.  They are a well-built well-GM'd team.

It'll be a tough out.  To beat them without any pass-rush, you'll need to put up a ton of points.  Zach will need to be in and we'll have to find some way to get protection.
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theaardvark

Simple game plan.

Bull rush Lawson and JT up the gut, with Jones hot on their tails.  Free trip into the back field, and hunt down BLM.  Ends have to contain. Maybe Kramdi off the edge as well.

A couple sacks and BLM is going to be hearing footsteps.

Can backfire if he gets it off quick, or lays it out for Lawler to run under.  FS has to be eyes on BLM and anticipate the quick deeproute throw and cut under it.
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BBRT

Quote from: theaardvark on September 08, 2025, 04:45:27 PMSimple game plan.

Bull rush Lawson and JT up the gut, with Jones hot on their tails.  Free trip into the back field, and hunt down BLM.  Ends have to contain. Maybe Kramdi off the edge as well.

A couple sacks and BLM is going to be hearing footsteps.

Can backfire if he gets it off quick, or lays it out for Lawler to run under.  FS has to be eyes on BLM and anticipate the quick deeproute throw and cut under it.

While that sounds like a plan doubt ol JT or Lawson can do much of a bull rush these days. Ol JT bless his sole, is way way past his best before date.

And I doubt the Bomber OL will be able to do much against any average DL. And if we have to rely on our back up QB we are done like dinner.

blue_gold_84

I'm glad I'll be out of town and unable to watch this game on Friday.

Go Blue, though - or something.
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BBRT

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 08, 2025, 04:52:10 PMI'm glad I'll be out of town and unable to watch this game on Friday.

Go Blue, though - or something.

I fully support the "or something"  ;D

Horseman

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 07, 2025, 09:35:11 PMShould have been a penalty IMO, Campbell intentionally picked him up and threw him to the ground.

No penalty, it was a text book executed form tackle, exactly like they teach it. Wish our guys could tackle like this.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: BBRT on September 08, 2025, 04:50:55 PMWhile that sounds like a plan doubt ol JT or Lawson can do much of a bull rush these days. Ol JT bless his sole, is way way past his best before date.

And I doubt the Bomber OL will be able to do much against any average DL. And if we have to rely on our back up QB we are done like dinner.
JT absolutely hammered Harris last game, don't could old Jake out yet, he pulled rushed well on that play and can still do it contrary to what some of his critics suggest, yes not often but he can still do it

Quote from: Ducky on September 08, 2025, 05:15:46 AMExpecting a blowout loss if Collaros is out.

BLM and that receiving core are going to torch the depleted secondary. 40 points.


We don't have a depleted secondary imo, we have retooled and look ok
Yes Bo could shred our unit or any for that matter
But we could also get to him and provide enough looks to slow the high powered offense down

Those that are wavering in the support of the blue don't give up so easy, when the team is down, that's when they need you the most
Down but not out
Lots of rounds left

To those that are still positive and believe.... I tip my cap to you.  Just like pre mini dynasty I appreciate the positive vibes.  Not all doom and gloom now just like before our epic run.  Similar core still here.  Just need to get off the mat and crush a few teams.

Pete

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for those of you versed in offensive plays, I was wondering why we dont utilize Clercius more in a tightend set or even Chris Ike, to me it helps with protection and run blocking as well as giving our qb an outlet pass
|As an added benefit it allows Mitchell to play wideout.  (would have helped in that rush that Zac got creamed)
What we are doing isn't working so why not?

Also 6 man offensive line sets, Hamilton uses this a whole lot and you can see the success blm has, or even two backs, the lack of adjustments to a dline rush that is killing us is mystifying

bomb squad

Quote from: Pete on September 08, 2025, 09:50:03 PMfor those of you versed in offensive plays, I was wondering why we dont utilize Clercius more in a tightend set or even Chris Ike, to me it helps with protection and run blocking as well as giving our qb an outlet pass
|As an added benefit it allows Mitchell to play wideout.  (would have helped in that rush that Zac got creamed)
What we are doing isn't working so why not?

Also 6 man offensive line sets, Hamilton uses this a whole lot and you can see the success blm has, or even two backs, the lack of adjustments to a dline rush that is killing us is mystifying

This. Something has to be done. That we've had whatever wins and offensive production we've had to this point is a testament to the veteran prowess and sheer desire of Zach, Nick, and Brady. Gee whiz, every down Zach is either firing the ball out right away to anyone, taking a sack, or running for his life (or at least his playing career). Harris and VA, on the other hand, can have a cup of coffee before they have to throw.

Pass pro is hands down the biggest problem with this team. It has to fixed or we ain't going far.

BBRT

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 08, 2025, 09:36:30 PMJT absolutely hammered Harris last game, don't could old Jake out yet, he pulled rushed well on that play and can still do it contrary to what some of his critics suggest, yes not often but he can still do it
We don't have a depleted secondary imo, we have retooled and look ok
Yes Bo could shred our unit or any for that matter
But we could also get to him and provide enough looks to slow the high powered offense down

Those that are wavering in the support of the blue don't give up so easy, when the team is down, that's when they need you the most
Down but not out
Lots of rounds left

To those that are still positive and believe.... I tip my cap to you.  Just like pre mini dynasty I appreciate the positive vibes.  Not all doom and gloom now just like before our epic run.  Similar core still here.  Just need to get off the mat and crush a few teams.

While I wish I could agree with you IMHO at least there just is not enough talent on both sides of the ball to feel comfortable. I do not blame any player as such, although there are a few on the roster that are just a little "stale dated". Where I place the blame is squarely on the Bomber Management Team for a terrible job of recruiting and finding the players necessary for success. We lost a lot of talent from 2024 and did not find the necessary talent to fill the void.

Blue In BC

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My thoughts on roster changes for this game:

1. Houston replaces Vaval at CB

2. Vaval is the returner and possible back up DB however we have Griffin, Allen and Woodbey as well.

3. Echols replaces Mitchell.

4. Makonzo gets added but not sure who comes out but probably Ball.

I don't know if Wallace is still nicked and not up to starting at LG. Also not sure if Vanterpool should continue to be the starter at LB but I lean that way going forward.

That leaves a ratio issue with keeping Vaval as a returner while adding Houston. I said it last week but Person and Woodbey should stay on the AR. That means Ayers needs to come off.

The alternative is that Echols can also be the returner as well as starting at receiver. I think that's a lot to put on a new receiver doing double duty. I'd be against that in theory.

If Collaros is out ( expected ) then none of this other stuff really matters.

Obviously we need to get back on the winning trail. I have my doubts at the moment because of the Collaros issue.

One game at a time.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 08, 2025, 11:23:34 PMMy thoughts on roster changes for this game:

1. Houston replaces Vaval at CB

2. Vaval is the returner and possible back up DB however we have Griffin, Allen and Woodbey as well.

3. Echols replaces Mitchell.

4. Makonzo gets added but not sure who comes out but probably Ball.

I don't know if Wallace is still nicked and not up to starting at LG. Also not sure if Vanterpool should continue to be the starter at LB but I lean that way going forward.

That leaves a ratio issue with keeping Vaval as a returner while adding Houston. I said it last week but Person and Woodbey should stay on the AR. That means Ayers needs to come off.

The alternative is that Echols can also be the returner as well as starting at receiver. I think that's a lot to put on a new receiver doing double duty. I'd be against that in theory.

If Collaros is out ( expected ) then none of this other stuff really matters.

Obviously we need to get back on the winning trail. I have my doubts at the moment because of the Collaros issue.


Hard to argue with much but not sure about Echols mostly because I don't know him but not interested at him returning.

Pete

Every week we wonder about Ayers, and OShea continues to play him
 Wonder if he was looking at another team and saw them dress 10 linebackers and only 6 dline, and no backup dbs other than safeties what his thoughts would be.,

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Pete on September 09, 2025, 12:40:32 AMEvery week we wonder about Ayers, and OShea continues to play him
 Wonder if he was looking at another team and saw them dress 10 linebackers and only 6 dline, and no backup dbs other than safeties what his thoughts would be.,
Ayers is a good player
We dress backup Dbs as they are available
Our linebackers are versatile and a pillar of strength for our club
MOS is a excellent coach and so is our DC and they don't care or need to look what other clubs are doing
We do what's best for our club each week
We dress different numbers of DL as needed and available