The Good, the bad, and the Ugly

Started by Jesse, September 07, 2025, 01:40:49 PM

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Jesse

Well, no doubt about it, that game felt like a sucker punch. I have always believed this team could turn it around once players got healthy and the newer players and coaches started coalescing into a team again. That hasn't happened so far. The dreams of controlling our own destiny and getting first place by sweeping Sask are officially over. Play-offs, despite panic, are still very much in play, so we can hope for a Cinderella on-the-road play-off run like in 2019, but I'm currently not seeing the parallels to that team.

Good:

- Pokey looks the same as ever. He's our one wild card moving forward
- Defensive scheme did it's job: limited passing, offensive attempts, points
- Won TOP, even with the ineptness of the offence post Zach injury. One of the ways we were limiting the Sask offence.
- Zach ran off the field. That was a scary moment, I am happy he was physically able to do that.

Bad

- OL looked like a sieve again, and this was with the 3 IMP line. We played our only card and still lost. Hogan has to make changes to scheme to keep the QB from getting killed
- Turnovers have robbed our season. Period. We have constantly played in the lead only to just give it away.
- A .500 record combined with us losing the season series to both Sask and Calgary has us officially hoping for 3rd place. The dream of hosting consecutive play-off games for the WF and GC are done. That's really disappointing. That was the easiest path to a home Grey Cup win.

Ugly:

- Zach's injury/TSN's comments. Milt should know better than to speak about another player's health and career, imo.
- The 2022 and 2023 Grey Cup performances. We should have won those games. To come out of this run on 3 straight losses to teams that we should have easily beat is depressing.
My wife is amazing!

Waffler

Good:
Pokey, Oliveira, Tony Jones
D holding Sask to 21

Bad:
Points off turnovers

Ugly:
Sergio out kicked by Lauther
hit on our QB
"Don't cry and don't rage. Understand." ― Spinoza
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The Zipp

bad - sergio, missed one last week, missed two this week.  the game could play out very different if we had those points. 

ugly - strev trying to be a QB and the team thinking he can be a QB...they called every play possible to avoid him throwing over 15 yards cause he can't, he tried and it got picked. it's a harsh world but you have to be able to recognize when the ability is no longer there. 

having sask trapped at their one yard line and giving up the rainbow pass and then a PI by Vaval.  hold them and we get great field position next series and maybe a miracle. 


Pigskin

Quote from: Waffler on September 07, 2025, 02:06:18 PMGood:
Pokey, Oliveira, Tony Jones
D holding Sask to 21

Bad:
Points off turnovers

Ugly:
Sergio out kicked by Lauther
hit on our QB



I would add Griffin to Good list with 11 tackles. Also, ND10 had a pretty solid game.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Pete

#4
Good
all our linebackers, woodbey is a keeper
Lawson jr wasnt noticable, for a db thats good
As above Olivera, Demski, Wilson
Bad
Interception call on Vaval, Holms was borderline
Not having Woods/Adam vs Ayers, our nonimports have shown they can make needed plays
Hogans scheme or lack of to offset rider rush
Our blitzes had zero effect, but we telegraph them lining up early and Harris adjusts
Being outcoached again
As above turnovers and oline
Ugly
Another 3rd qtr with zero points
Zacs injury and officials on field and in Toronto not calling it, No way should we have had to use a challenge

Blueforlife

All good pts everyone! Can't argue with much here

Props to JT, Woodbey and Kramdi.  I noticed all three.  Kramdi playing all over.  Also liked seeing mixed up alignment with Allen who played well.

Very disappointed in MOS for kicking the 51 yard FG.  Should have pinned them deep.

bwiser

Good-Olivera finally used like he is the best running back in the league
    - Goldmember part of the pre game festivities, way to represent section 211
    -secondary continues to show improvement
    Jones and Griffin  making tackles
Bad- O line gave up too many hits on Qb's
   -Injury to Colleros
   -missed field goals
Ugly-another bad third quarter

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: The Zipp on September 07, 2025, 02:13:08 PMbad - sergio, missed one last week, missed two this week.  the game could play out very different if we had those points. 

ugly - strev trying to be a QB and the team thinking he can be a QB...they called every play possible to avoid him throwing over 15 yards cause he can't, he tried and it got picked. it's a harsh world but you have to be able to recognize when the ability is no longer there. 


I pray O'Shea comes to this realization instead of stubbornly denying there isn't a problem with Strev's abilities, if so Terry Wilson will never get the opportunity to surpass him and will disappear from view shortly after this season ends.  Even Morgan in Mtl. resembles a QB that has the right toolbox, Strev. just plays like a misfit that lost his super-power.

Horseman

Quote from: Pete on September 07, 2025, 02:53:57 PMBad
Interception call on Vaval, Holms was borderline

If you mean the interference call on Vaval, then it definitely was DPI, Vaval was holding the receivers right arm prior to the ball arriving, the reply showed it clearly. Agree on the Holm DPI, but apparently the ref called it illegal contact on a receiver and the head ref or CC upped it to DPI.

markf

#9
Ugly:

Up 17 to 3 and more or less dominating the play, with 36 seconds left in the first half

With dodgy O line pass protection, and a qb who throws picks a fair bit, calling a forty yard pass play which was easily picked off.

O line just collapsed into Zach, and he just heaved it.

Even worse cause you have Brady. Who was making some tough yards



Also ugly.....

I noticed, just now watching that end of half pick, and the early third quarter interceptions thrown by Zach, that the intercepting player was brought down by Zach.

Both times?

That is really lame on the part of the other players on Offence. pathetic effort. Watching your old fragile qb bringing down a defensive player. Then doing that again. Weak. No wonder he doesn't seem to trust some of them.

I was watching some plays from 2022, zach threw 37 td passes.  Some to Bailey. Bet he wouldn't have jammed out on those interception returns.

Spirit wise, This team is a shadow that team.


Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: markf on September 07, 2025, 07:56:48 PMUgly:

Up 17 to 3 and more or less dominating the play, with 36 seconds left in the first half

With dodgy O line pass protection, and a qb who throws picks a fair bit, calling a forty yard pass play which was easily picked off.

O line just collapsed into Zach, and he just heaved it.

And you have Brady. Who was making some tough yards

I'm sure there's a great inside football explanation, for that call, that Mr Hogan could provide.

Also ugly.....

I noticed, just now watching that end of half pick, and the early third quarter interceptions thrown by Zach, that the intercepting player was brought down by Zach.

Both times?

That is really lame on the part of the other players on Offence. pathetic effort. Watching your old fragile qb bringing down a defensive player. Then doing that again. Weak.

I was watching some plays from 2022, zach threw 37 td passes.  Some to Bailey. Bet he wouldn't have jammed out on those interception returns.

Spirit wise, This team is a shadow that team.



Agree, some of the leaders on defence are more followers than leaders by default.  Holm, Nichols, T. Jones and Kyrie are understated individuals, even Willie doesn't do much more than cheer for himself. Kramdi might be a great communicator due to his knowledge of the game but I don't get the impression he's much of a leader.

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: bwiser on September 07, 2025, 04:51:23 PMGood-Olivera finally used like he is the best running back in the league
    - Goldmember part of the pre game festivities, way to represent section 211
    -secondary continues to show improvement
    Jones and Griffin  making tackles
Bad- O line gave up too many hits on Qb's
   -Injury to Colleros
   -missed field goals
Ugly-another bad third quarter
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Tecno

Quote from: Waffler on September 07, 2025, 02:06:18 PMUgly:
Sergio out kicked by Lauther

ahahhhahahahahah ahahhahahaha hahahahahahah hahahahaha

Can't-score Lauther is literally always on the brink of losing his job.  Pathetic he hit more than Sergio.

Stupid thing is, I was watching Sergio in warmups and he was making probably 90% of his >45's.  And the wind was worse in warmups.

He's had enough distance in all these long misses, it's always just a hair wide right or (usually) left.  Dial it in Sergio!  He may be going through one of those K slumps we often see.  Snap out of it, man!
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: The Zipp on September 07, 2025, 02:13:08 PMugly - strev trying to be a QB and the team thinking he can be a QB...they called every play possible to avoid him throwing over 15 yards cause he can't

Can't he?  He's a big man, with a big chest & arms.  Not bulk, but lean strength.  He has no history of arm injuries.  There's no reason he can't chuck it 65+ like the best of them.  I've seen him zip 40Yers out there without even trying.

I know his mechanics are wonky, and he's more wrist than body, but we've all seen him flick effortless ones.  Accuracy and correct reads... that's a different issue.
Never go full Johnston!

Tecno

Quote from: bwiser on September 07, 2025, 04:51:23 PM- Goldmember part of the pre game festivities, way to represent section 211

Literally the best part of the game!
Never go full Johnston!