Mike O'Shea said our Defence played pretty dam well

Started by BBFANDM, September 07, 2025, 04:26:52 AM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 07, 2025, 06:27:19 PMLawson seems to be capable of more physical play, saw him help out tackling Oullette a couple of times.

Yup, I saw that too.  It was wild (and fun!).  Not only did he go put hits on steamrolling Oullette, but actually made a dent in him.  He must be heavier than featherweight Vaval, and/or have more beef, and/or have more cajones, and/or have less brains!  :D  :D  :D
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Also, not mentioned, but players brought in are not very good. Secondly, we don't seem to have good production, from our scouts. Do we not pay enough?  Many of the players don't compete with their competition. The coaches certainly can't use the guys we have, effectively.  The Quarternacks can't get it done.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Jesse on September 07, 2025, 01:18:59 PMYou can pick out certain plays in literally every game, but our defence did enough the last two weeks to win both games.

The theme of both games was turnovers. We had 2 fumble last week on out goal line that led to TDs and this week, 2 of Zach's final play's were INTs that turned into 10 points.

Even when the offence is moving the ball, we have this penchant for losing it.

The offense hasn't progressed at all this season. I'd even argue it's regressed based on the last two games.

The offense has been a sore spot going back to last season - and that was with a seasoned OC at the helm. A rookie OC and an aging QB have only exacerbated the issues, IMO.
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Quote from: Jesse on September 07, 2025, 09:01:01 PMI'm not sure I buy into the fact that the double duty thing is a big deal. This is the CFL. Many starters play on ST. 

He's a professional athlete. A handful of extra snaps a game isn't affecting him. They can rotate him out for a play if he's temporarily winded at any point.
The risk of injury for a starting defensive player returning kicks isn't one I would take lightly
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I think our O can been consistently average and it's success is based on two primary factors which also feed into the third:
Zach's health
Play of OL
Ability to establish front run game

Jesse

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 08, 2025, 01:16:56 PMThe offense hasn't progressed at all this season. I'd even argue it's regressed based on the last two games.

The offense has been a sore spot going back to last season - and that was with a seasoned OC at the helm. A rookie OC and an aging QB have only exacerbated the issues, IMO.

Last year turnovers were a huge handicap as well.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on September 08, 2025, 11:13:56 PMLast year turnovers were a huge handicap as well.

I think the offence started sputtering in 2023, they did well in most games but came out flat in a number of big games.  That trend continued through 2024 and has now reversed itself, more often than not the offence is sputtering, they occasionally catch fire for brief intervals but can not maintain like they used to.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 09, 2025, 05:00:09 PMI think the offence started sputtering in 2023, they did well in most games but came out flat in a number of big games.

The 2023 team did very, very well in the majority of its regular season games. Only two jump out as anomalous, IMO: the week 3 loss at home to the Lions and the ugly collapse to the RedBlacks in week 6.

All-star nods to Collaros, Oliveira, Demski, Schoen, Bryant, Hardrick, and Neufeld. That offense was beyond dominant.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 09, 2025, 05:39:50 PMThe 2023 team did very, very well in the majority of its regular season games. Only two jump out as anomalous, IMO: the week 3 loss at home to the Lions and the ugly collapse to the RedBlacks in week 6.

All-star nods to Collaros, Oliveira, Demski, Schoen, Bryant, Hardrick, and Neufeld. That offense was beyond dominant.

That's when it began, they inexplicably came up flat at home and laid an egg.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 09, 2025, 05:44:59 PMThat's when it began, they inexplicably came up flat at home and laid an egg.



One game is an anomaly. Full stop.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 09, 2025, 05:59:14 PMOne game is an anomaly. Full stop.

Ya, you said it.  OTT beating BC with Crum, or EDM creaming CGY this week is proof of that.  Reminder: CGY creamed SSK and WPG in every game.
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