TSN Calling for Zach Collaros to Retire

[Waffler]

I don't think the decline in his arm as big of factor as some make it out to be.  Was slinging pretty well before went out, the corner for me is healthy and ints.

Yes, the good ones he has left make the believers blind to the bad. That's how you age, it's not turn off the tap, it's gradual. I am sure every team in the league excepting our own is aware of how long the ball stays in the air and plays for the pic knowing they have time. We all know the stats. Under thrown deep balls and rainbows that don't need to be are becoming more and more common. Sad to say but I don't see another Grey Cup in that arm.

[Jesse]

I guess we won't agree on that. A pro ball player unblocked is like being hit by a truck. Add to that being 100% unprepared.

I attach pic to show that he really did go sideways about 5 yards. He was planted to throw on the hash mark.

whole hit in slowmo:

https://x.com/PatrickJames019/status/1964498665281913140

That's not on the defensive player though, that's on protection.

The only thing Reavis did wrong was some helmet to helmet contact and, while a penalty, wasn't exactly the most egregious hit we've ever seen.

[Blueforlife]

Yes, the good ones he has left make the believers blind to the bad. That's how you age, it's not turn off the tap, it's gradual. I am sure every team in the league excepting our own is aware of how long the ball stays in the air and plays for the pic knowing they have time. We all know the stats. Under thrown deep balls and rainbows that don't need to be are becoming more and more common. Sad to say but I don't see another Grey Cup in that arm.

I believe with a strong OL and no further health issues, Zach could win other cup.  I see a player that yes makes mistakes but can still throw the deep ball and has a nice touch most of the time.  Yup there are rainbows at times.  No one is blind to the bad.  We have all seen good, bad and ugly Zach.  I see his play average this season with some warts along the way, no doubt.

He's done. Someone needs to have the conversation with him. Been saying this all season. It's not just the injury concern, it's the pricetag for the production. It's not there anymore. He had a great game on Labour Day but there are far more valleys and middling performances than there are peaks.

He's our best chance this year but let's roll the dice with Wilson next week and start looking at what we can do for 2026.

If we want to make the playoffs we need Zach at the helm if his health allows.  If he is hurt, yes I would like to see Wilson.  That said we would likely consider finding a QB if Zach is out long term.  Not an easy situation.  Zach when healthy, behind a good OL still has got it imo.

[Waffler]

That's not on the defensive player though, that's on protection.

The only thing Reavis did wrong was some helmet to helmet contact and, while a penalty, wasn't exactly the most egregious hit we've ever seen.

Why was there any? He had time to position the hit. It was forceful enough that any QB would be out even if the helmet had remained untouched.

Agree we blew the protection. We have to make the  oline more a priority for next year.

[TBURGESS]

I agree with Milt. It looks like Collaros is out cold before he even hit the ground. That's the cumulative effect of concussions IMO. It's not up to Collaros. It's up to the medical staff. 

[Sir Blue and Gold]

We have one card left to play and that's Terry Wilson.

We have to hope he's the winning lottery ticket numbers because that's the only thing that can save us this year.

We're out of options. Let's see if two years of development has developed anything.

[markf]

I didn't think that was a severe hit. It was on a QB with a concussion injury history and that's the issue.

Yes. But I'm ready for "he's a tough guy" and seeing him out there getting smoked again.

Also..... How does a defender get an undisguised, completely unblocked full speed  track straight to the qb? There was no attempt to hide what was coming.

Nobody saw the guy? Right tackle, running back, Zach himself?

I think I've seen some plays this season where after yet another sack, O lineman goes to help zach up, ( they have a lot of practise at that) and he seems to avoid eye contact with them. As crappy as the o line is, he can't be happy with them.

Re playoffs v Zach health.... That's an easy choice. For me at least.

[BBRT]

I believe with a strong OL and no further health issues, Zach could win other cup.  I see a player that yes makes mistakes but can still throw the deep ball and has a nice touch most of the time.  Yup there are rainbows at times.  No one is blind to the bad.  We have all seen good, bad and ugly Zach.  I see his play average this season with some warts along the way, no doubt.If we want to make the playoffs we need Zach at the helm if his health allows.  If he is hurt, yes I would like to see Wilson.  That said we would likely consider finding a QB if Zach is out long term.  Not an easy situation.  Zach when healthy, behind a good OL still has got it imo.

Problem as I see it as any QB behind this Oline is in trouble. We are light years away from having anything looking like a decent OL.

[Blue In BC]

Yes. But I'm ready for "he's a tough guy" and seeing him out there getting smoked again.

Also..... How does a defender get an undisguised, completely unblocked full speed  track straight to the qb? There was no attempt to hide what was coming.

Nobody saw the guy? Right tackle, running back, Zach himself?

I think I've seen some plays this season where after yet another sack, O lineman goes to help zach up, ( they have a lot of practise at that) and he seems to avoid eye contact with them. As crappy as the o line is, he can't be happy with them.

Re playoffs v Zach health.... That's an easy choice. For me at least.

It was mentioned on the broadcast that the QB has to recognize the free rusher in the formation. Collaros didn't and that was the result. I have to agree with that analysis.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

That's not on the defensive player though, that's on protection.

The only thing Reavis did wrong was some helmet to helmet contact and, while a penalty, wasn't exactly the most egregious hit we've ever seen.

Reavis is on social media proclaiming his innocence but I don't buy it. He had seconds to plan the tackle as he was unimpeded and had time to anticipate the collision, he could have aimed at Zach's core, gone for a wrap and pulled him to the ground, instead he high pointed him with enough energy to send him flying.  It goes beyond a football play when the intent is to send a message and make a huge impact. I'm sure he received plenty of pats on the head in the locker room afterwards for a job well done.

As for protection, it comes down to being out-numbered, every O-lineman was occupied, Brady jumped to Zach's left and was occupied, it was up to Zach to realize there were more blitzers than blockers before he snapped the ball.

[Blue In BC]

Reavis is on social media proclaiming his innocence but I don't buy it. He had seconds to plan the tackle as he was unimpeded and time to anticipate the collision, he could have aimed at Zach's core, gone for a wrap and pulled him to the ground, instead he high pointed him with enough energy to send him flying.  It goes beyond a football play when the intent is to send a message and make a huge impact. I'm sure he received plenty of pats on the head in the locker room afterwards for a job well done.

I disagree. Football is a contact sport and I saw no intent to injure.

[Blueforlife]

Problem as I see it as any QB behind this Oline is in trouble. We are light years away from having anything looking like a decent OL.

Joe Montana would have issues correct.  The OL has had good game as well but with injuries and constant changes it's a weaker group.  Could come around yet.

[Horseman]

Why was there any? He had time to position the hit. It was forceful enough that any QB would be out even if the helmet had remained untouched.

Agree we blew the protection. We have to make the  oline more a priority for next year.

That Reavis hit is NOT on the O line, they rushed more people than there were blockers.

[Blueforlife]

That Reavis hit is NOT on the O line, they rushed more people than there were blockers.

Agree just too bad Zach didn't see him or protect himself
As usual looking downfield for the big play, which does make him great
A nice blitz, too bad the helmet contact was avoided, hard to blame him, paid to take out the QB

[Horseman]

As for protection, it comes down to being out-numbered, every O-lineman was occupied, Brady jumped to Zach's left and was occupied, it was up to Zach to realize there were more blitzers than blockers before he snapped the ball.

I agree with you on this point, but, I don't blame Reavis, he is rushing in to sack the QB and yes his helmet made contact with Zach's helmet but it wasn't an intentional dirty hit, a penalty yes, but not dirty.