Did I hear Mike O'Shea's comments correctly

BBFANDM · September 06, 2025, 04:46:10 AM

I just watched the Sept 05 press conference and I am shocked with what Mike O'Shea said how its it Schoen is coming of an ACL Injury and re-injures the ACL vs Calgary in Week 5 and is cleared by the Medical Staff after 7 weeks and is now done for the season ?
To me more than one person is to blame its a organizational failure !!!

BBFANDM · September 06, 2025, 04:58:06 AM

At this point I don't think Schoen ever plays football again. He will be 29 next year and it takes 2 years to fully come back from an ACL tear.

TecnoGenius · September 06, 2025, 07:05:14 AM

Some ACL injuries you can still run & catch, it's just that you can't cut or stop. Looks like that's what Schoen was. He may have not really cut or stopped all game until that 2PAT. He definitely had to stop to wait for that ball, and that's right when we saw him get injured. So... technically he could still play... ish.

But your point that we shouldn't have played him at all... It looks like the team wanted to give him a chance because they knew this could be the end of his career. He also (clearly) causes D's to respect him and cover him and cheat to him and add guys to him. That's why all the other RECs did so well in LDC. So was it all bad? He did last until the (near-)final play. He didn't "cost us" anything in that game.

They were probably doing the "let's see how this goes" and roll with it as long as it lasted. Schoen also could have been lying this whole time about how good it felt to him: painting a rosy picture.

He was likely headed to surgery or extended time off anyhow, so to "re-re-re-injured" it doesn't really make anything worse. The end result for Schoen is the same.

Lastly: revenue. Schoen is on a boatload of jerseys in the Bomber Store. Now those will go unsold, because who wants to retire their jersey in FA'26 when we don't re-sign him.

Because Schoen helped us almost win a "guaranteed" loss LDC against the "best" team in the league, I'm ok with the call. I'm ok with the secrecy. I guarantee you it's what Schoen wanted. No (extra) harm, no foul.

TecnoGenius · September 06, 2025, 07:06:37 AM

Now, I wonder if we'll see him on the sidelines still (like he did up until this point) or if he just flies home and we never see him again.

Wouldn't he technically still be an employee? And he probably doesn't want to ask for his release, because he'll make great coin on the 6GIR. Not sure what the precedent is here.

Blue In BC · September 06, 2025, 01:40:30 PM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 06, 2025, 07:06:37 AMNow, I wonder if we'll see him on the sidelines still (like he did up until this point) or if he just flies home and we never see him again.

Wouldn't he technically still be an employee? And he probably doesn't want to ask for his release, because he'll make great coin on the 6GIR. Not sure what the precedent is here.

He'll probably be on the sidelines for home games. His medical requirements will be handled the same as any other player unless he has a preferred specialist in the USA.

Jesse · September 06, 2025, 01:54:11 PM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 06, 2025, 07:06:37 AMNow, I wonder if we'll see him on the sidelines still (like he did up until this point) or if he just flies home and we never see him again.

Wouldn't he technically still be an employee? And he probably doesn't want to ask for his release, because he'll make great coin on the 6GIR. Not sure what the precedent is here.

I don't know what you mean. Players get injured all the time. What precedent are you looking for?

GOLDMEMBER · September 06, 2025, 02:45:48 PM

Quote from: Jesse on September 06, 2025, 01:54:11 PMI don't know what you mean. Players get injured all the time. What precedent are you looking for?

exactly!

Strevy · September 06, 2025, 03:19:44 PM

Poor roster management. Again. Feel bad for DS.

Pete · September 06, 2025, 03:23:18 PM

I think you're right, his acl wasnt going to heal, it would require surgery, His choice to do it right away or wait,either way he would miss next season or possibly be career ending,
He decided to try to make it thru this season.Unfortunately the choice was made for him
Without medical knowledge of his situation speculation about his playing is just that

Waffler · September 06, 2025, 03:48:41 PM

I don't think it was further injured in Sask. Maybe some swelling and pain. I just think he realized it was not stable enough. But realistically someone should have told him not to play.

Biggie, Schoen and Collaros were all okayed to play in Grey Cup games that ended up hurting the team and now this happens. It has to stop.

theaardvark · September 06, 2025, 04:19:50 PM

Quote from: Strevy on September 06, 2025, 03:19:44 PMPoor roster management. Again. Feel bad for DS.

Lol. Same response to every post, right?

I don't remember, did DS have surgery last time?

Depending on the tear, they can be rehabbed without surgical repair, but if he keeps injuring it, I guess he will get surgery and fix it for good.

blue_or_die · September 06, 2025, 04:44:03 PM

Some interesting new characters on the forum the last few weeks.

Throw Long Bannatyne · September 06, 2025, 04:46:02 PM

Quote from: Waffler on September 06, 2025, 03:48:41 PMI don't think it was further injured in Sask. Maybe some swelling and pain. I just think he realized it was not stable enough. But realistically someone should have told him not to play.

Biggie, Schoen and Collaros were all okayed to play in Grey Cup games that ended up hurting the team and now this happens. It has to stop.

Yep enough is enough, if Walters or Miller have to step in to ensure a change in policy so be it, if Al Couture's head rolls, so be it. Couture has shown he is in neglect of his duties and is little more than a yes man that will go along to get along with the wishes of O'Shea and the players.

More disturbing, when asked about Schoen's condition after the LDC O'Shea smiled at a reporter and chirped, "He's good". Either he has total contempt for the question or he sees it as a game were he can say whatever he wants to because he thinks he owns the team.

Strevy · September 06, 2025, 04:48:19 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 06, 2025, 04:46:02 PMYep enough is enough, if Walters or Miller have to step in to ensure a change in policy so be it, if Al Couture's head rolls, so be it. Couture has shown he is in neglect of his duties and is little more than a yes man that will go along to get along with the wishes of O'Shea and the players.

More disturbing, when asked about Schoen's condition after the LDC O'Shea smiled at a reporter and chirped, "He's good". Either he has total contempt for the question or he sees it as a game were he can say whatever he wants to because he thinks he owns the team.

Agreed but simple solution. Don't roster him. They had options. Sad.

TecnoGenius · September 06, 2025, 07:40:05 PM

Quote from: Jesse on September 06, 2025, 01:54:11 PMI don't know what you mean. Players get injured all the time. What precedent are you looking for?

As in what do players normally do when it's 2 thirds done the season and they just got a season ender. I could see some just going home, assuming that's allowed without retiring.

I may be wrong, that's why I asked