GDT Ham at Ott, Sun July 20, 6:00PM

Started by gobombersgo, July 19, 2025, 05:49:14 PM

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Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2025, 01:15:22 PMThink about it. The blow came from under the face mask (which it appeared to have done ). With the chin strap on tight there would be greater force applied on the head because there would be resistance by the face mask for the helmet to not come off. That could be a bad think in this instance.

Try putting on a helmet and apply upward pressure on the face mask and see what it does to your neck. Now do the same thing without the chin strap on tight.

The injury didn't appear to occur with the head hitting the turf after the helmet came off. If it did then you have a reasonable point. However, that's a risk analysis on which situation would cause the most damage.

Anyone want to post the hit in slow mo? I didn't record the game.
Disagree with your analysis.  The helmet is made to be secured.  A penalty is accessed if it isn't.  Stretching here imo.  Sure hope he is ok.  A helmet coming off is a huge risk.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2025, 03:20:57 PMDisagree with your analysis.  The helmet is made to be secured.  A penalty is accessed if it isn't.  Stretching here imo.  Sure hope he is ok.  A helmet coming off is a huge risk.

We aren't in total disagreement. If you read what I said and what may have happened, that falls into the 1% or less of blows to the head. Obviously the intent is for the helmet to be secured and there should be a penalty if it isn't.

There are helmet's that are more beneficial for certain types of blows as well. There is no 100% perfect solution or one size fits all.

I don't think you've ever worn a helmet or spoken with anyone that does?

I'd still like to a slow mo shot of the play involved.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2025, 04:58:09 PMWe aren't in total disagreement. If you read what I said and what may have happened, that falls into the 1% or less of blows to the head. Obviously the intent is for the helmet to be secured and there should be a penalty if it isn't.

There are helmet's that are more beneficial for certain types of blows as well. There is no 100% perfect solution or one size fits all.

I don't think you've ever worn a helmet or spoken with anyone that does?

I'd still like to a slow mo shot of the play involved.
Thanks for clarifing your positon.

I believe the injury occurred on contact and the helmet flew off.  Having ones head exposed during this violet hit add all kinds of risk to a player.  In this case he got lucky and it didn't add an additional injury post contact I believe.  Happened pretty quick live.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2025, 04:58:09 PMWe aren't in total disagreement. If you read what I said and what may have happened, that falls into the 1% or less of blows to the head. Obviously the intent is for the helmet to be secured and there should be a penalty if it isn't.

There are helmet's that are more beneficial for certain types of blows as well. There is no 100% perfect solution or one size fits all.

I don't think you've ever worn a helmet or spoken with anyone that does?

I'd still like to a slow mo shot of the play involved.

Do a search on YouTube, you'll likely find the clip along with a multitude of savages celebrating the destruction of Brown's brain-matter.

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 21, 2025, 05:23:29 PMDo a search on YouTube, you'll likely find the clip along with a multitude of savages celebrating the destruction of Brown's brain-matter.
The hit was bad enough, but to celebrate it afterwards is sickening. I hope each and everyone of those classless idiots get what's coming to them.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 21, 2025, 05:06:41 PMThanks for clarifing your positon.

I believe the injury occurred on contact and the helmet flew off.  Having ones head exposed during this violet hit add all kinds of risk to a player.  In this case he got lucky and it didn't add an additional injury post contact I believe.  Happened pretty quick live.

Very true since it happens in a crowd and players are coming from all sorts of angles.
One game at a time.

GOLDMEMBER

On other news the Redblacks look Completely cooked yet again this year. Bit of a shame.
Dru Brown or whomever and that offence is brutal.
Bring Dru back here!
Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

Blue In BC

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2025, 05:52:38 PMOn other news the Redblacks look Completely cooked yet again this year. Bit of a shame.
Dru Brown or whomever and that offence is brutal.
Bring Dru back here!

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2025, 05:52:38 PMOn other news the Redblacks look Completely cooked yet again this year. Bit of a shame.
Dru Brown or whomever and that offence is brutal.
Bring Dru back here!

Ottawa has to start some sort of airlift.They have a lot of players on IR and more were injured this weekend. Hard to tell who will be ready or when but something needs to change quick.

They only have 7 showing on their PR at the moment but the roster updates are not entirely accurate either.

Brown, Mauldin and Laing were among those hurt this weekend that I remember.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on July 21, 2025, 05:52:38 PMOn other news the Redblacks look Completely cooked yet again this year. Bit of a shame.
Dru Brown or whomever and that offence is brutal.
Bring Dru back here!

Dru Brown is signed thru the end of 2026, by that time he may have had enough and seek to flee the tire fire for a better situation.  I think it highly unlikely Bob Dyce survives beyond this season.

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 21, 2025, 06:16:39 PMDru Brown is signed thru the end of 2026, by that time he may have had enough and seek to flee the tire fire for a better situation.  I think it highly unlikely Bob Dyce survives beyond this season.
I don't think he makes it to Sept long weekend.

markf

Quote from: dd on July 21, 2025, 09:46:11 PMI don't think he makes it to Sept long weekend.

I don't know if it's true, but I read today (Reddit cfl ) that Cory Mace applied for the Redblacks coaching job, but they went with Bob Dyce.

Blue In BC

Just saw the replay of the hit on Dru Brown. As I suggested I think the hit was under the face mask and the helmet came off before he hit the ground. Brown may have also hit his head on the turf but that seemed a lesser issue than the helmet being ripped over his head. 

I'm not sure he suffered a concussion but I think protocol kicks in when there is any blow to the head. I guess we'll find out if he's cleared to play this week.

One game at a time.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: markf on July 22, 2025, 01:51:33 AMI don't know if it's true, but I read today (Reddit cfl ) that Cory Mace applied for the Redblacks coaching job, but they went with Bob Dyce.

Word on Riderforum is Mace didn't get the job because he wanted (more) control of player selection.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 21, 2025, 05:58:26 PMOttawa has to start some sort of airlift.

Do they need a REC yet?  If so, I have the perfect trade-bait... D.Mitchell for a 1RDP!!
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: TBURGESS on July 21, 2025, 02:47:50 PMStrain on the neck isn't a concussion which makes is way less of a problem.

Ya, but tell that to Zach, who has been out for a few games before for "neck strain" due to sacks.
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