Stamps at Blue Bombers pre game thread

Started by GOLDMEMBER, July 07, 2025, 10:05:19 PM

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BomberFan73

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 14, 2025, 03:25:35 AMThat's the spirit!  Let's forfeit now and save the injuries!  :P  :P  :P

I think we'll find a way to get the run game going.  Brady needs to earn his best-in-league paycheck.  Hasn't done it yet.  He's behind basically every franchise RB right now and has shown basically nothing.

If we change-up the OL heavily, maybe we'll be beefier and get some holes.  Lofton, Wallace, Vanterpool might be a good experiment.  I have maintained this whole time that Lofton was the desired RT in 2025.


Attaboy!  We'll just have to figure out how to get that run game going - not just "going" though...I want to see us pound it all night.  Long drives for points & tire out this upstart D.

The Zipp

not going to be an easy game if the Stamps we have seen the last two games show up, but we are home and I don't think we generally throw out two stinkers in a row...and we are home.

Time for Hogan to shine and show he can coordinate a pro level offense - he has the tools, Hall of fame QB, solid and learning O-line, Hall of fame RB, a number of very good receivers.  there is no reason to have quarters with 1 or 2 first downs like we have seen the last couple of games.

Zach has to be better and not be tossing picks, I think we will go some max protect packages and air this thing out.  make the Calgary secondary try and cover Demski, Schoen and Wheatfall - can't be done if ZC has time.

Waffler

Quote from: The Zipp on July 14, 2025, 02:08:51 PMair this thing out.

Interesting take. I was thinking the exact opposite, a ball control type game that keeps Calgary's O off the field. There is more than one way to win and I'll be happy with any type.
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Very important to be able to run for 4-6 yards on first down. We seem to convert 2nd and 9-10 yards at such a low rate.
We've built our success on winning the trenches. We have the hogs to do it on offence, but if we need to scheme up stunts on defence to get home, lets get it done! Let's make that Calgary OL work for it!

Pete

The things that seems to make OShea tick are not showing up in shape, and effort in practice. Giving Case reps may be sending a message.
 I still don't understand letting white go if Mitchell isnt in the plans

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on July 14, 2025, 03:12:14 PMThe things that seems to make OShea tick are not showing up in shape, and effort in practice. Giving Case reps may be sending a message.
 I still don't understand letting white go if Mitchell isnt in the plans

IIRC White declined staying on the PR for more than the 1st week. That may have been too early to make a different choice between Mitchell and White. Since they had invested so much in Mitchell I can see why that decision was made.

OTOH, this week is game 5 and something needs to give regardless of whether Schoen is out this week.
One game at a time.

markf

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Stearns

2025

WPG   4   16   13   124   27   1   9.5


Games, target complete yds Yac td av.

Reliable when thrown to. 27 yac on 13 receptions. Catching in traffic?

Trying to understand what works and why is tough. For me.

The Zipp

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 14, 2025, 03:15:41 PMIIRC White declined staying on the PR for more than the 1st week. That may have been too early to make a different choice between Mitchell and White. Since they had invested so much in Mitchell I can see why that decision was made.

OTOH, this week is game 5 and something needs to give regardless of whether Schoen is out this week.

what are you expecting to "give"?...if Schoen is healthy he will play.  If he isn't then I guess we will see who gets in - if Case is practicing in that spot all week then there is your answer - if Mitchell and Case are both practicing in that spot then it could be either.

Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on July 14, 2025, 03:20:44 PMwhat are you expecting to "give"?...if Schoen is healthy he will play.  If he isn't then I guess we will see who gets in - if Case is practicing in that spot all week then there is your answer - if Mitchell and Case are both practicing in that spot then it could be either.

I believe Schoen will play but if doesn't then his replacement will be telling. Someone posted that Mitchell doesn't play slot and is dumber than a post. Neither of those comments is well supported. The other comments about FIFO seem more valid although we don't know exactly what the problem might be. He's had to time to adjust.

In any case, if he can't make the roster by the 5th game it's time to cut bait.

Practice reports from today will also give an idea of who is the next man up behind Schoen. I expected Schoen to get a couple of days off even if he's expected to play. It does give an indication of where the depth ranking is at the moment.

One game at a time.

The Zipp

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 14, 2025, 03:34:11 PMI believe Schoen will play but if doesn't then his replacement will be telling. Someone posted that Mitchell doesn't play slot and is dumber than a post. Neither of those comments is well supported. The other comments about FIFO seem more valid although we don't know exactly what the problem might be. He's had to time to adjust.

In any case, if he can't make the roster by the 5th game it's time to cut bait.

Practice reports from today will also give an idea of who is the next man up behind Schoen. I expected Schoen to get a couple of days off even if he's expected to play. It does give an indication of where the depth ranking is at the moment.



I don't think they will release him - they aren't taking Wheatfall out for Mitchell. He only gets on the active roster if an injury happens or someone has their worst game of their life at an epic level.


BBRT

Quote from: The Zipp on July 14, 2025, 02:08:51 PMnot going to be an easy game if the Stamps we have seen the last two games show up, but we are home and I don't think we generally throw out two stinkers in a row...and we are home.

Time for Hogan to shine and show he can coordinate a pro level offense - he has the tools, Hall of fame QB, solid and learning O-line, Hall of fame RB, a number of very good receivers.  there is no reason to have quarters with 1 or 2 first downs like we have seen the last couple of games.

Zach has to be better and not be tossing picks, I think we will go some max protect packages and air this thing out.  make the Calgary secondary try and cover Demski, Schoen and Wheatfall - can't be done if ZC has time.

I agree with your comments! It will not be an easy game that is a given. What is starting to annoy me is why teams like Calgary seem to be able to restock their DL while we seem to still play the same old troops. If we lose this game I do believe it is time to rethink our DL roster. Jake Thomas (one of my favorite dudes) is way past his best before date and I am starting to think the same about Willy. The other issue I have is whether or not Zack is sort of getting  past his best before date etc. Going to hold off any formal judgement for a few more weeks but starting to lean that way.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: gobombersgo on July 13, 2025, 08:47:15 PM

Didn't hear a word O'Shea said, I was transfixed by the shiny object in his right ear, if it's an earring it's located in a strange place, maybe it was part of an audio ear piece?

Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on July 14, 2025, 03:46:56 PMI don't think they will release him - they aren't taking Wheatfall out for Mitchell. He only gets on the active roster if an injury happens or someone has their worst game of their life at an epic level.



That's part of the discussion in that Schoen MIGHT be injured and he doesn't seem to be next man up. It's only an issue in that he's on the 1 game IR and not the PR.

I recognize he'd probably balk at accepting a PR spot. The team is caught between a rock and a hard place after giving such a large early signing bonus.

We may also see O. Wilson returning later this season.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 14, 2025, 03:15:41 PMIIRC White declined staying on the PR for more than the 1st week. That may have been too early to make a different choice between Mitchell and White. Since they had invested so much in Mitchell I can see why that decision was made.

OTOH, this week is game 5 and something needs to give regardless of whether Schoen is out this week.

White left because he needed to feed his family, it'd be pretty hard to promise him a steady paycheque if he didn't earn a starters role, which he didn't.  Personally I would have kept him over Stearns and Mitchell because I prefer more size, Bombers need to shop for a big receiver next off-season like Cottoy, that guy is a physical monster.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 14, 2025, 04:21:33 PMWhite left because he needed to feed his family...

He's still jobless. I wonder if Walters has kept in touch.
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