Stamps at Blue Bombers pre game thread

[TecnoGenius]

Not something the Bombers usually do as they have a couple of untried options in house, but the Stamps just released DE Cedric Wilcots

Haba was looking better than Wilcots, and we didn't keep Haba.  So why Wilcots?  I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't be upset or surprised if we did.  He would come dirt cheap.

[TecnoGenius]

The bigger mistake would be mortgaging the future on the chance to win a championship on home field.

I would mortgage the next 5 years is that's what it took to win the GC at home.  It's basically required to make up for 3 losses in a row.  You win this one at home and everything is forgiven and forgotten and the dynasty is sealed forever.

That said, clearly we didn't.  We didn't even spend the extra $400k like other teams did.  We could have kept Kenny, for instance, and brought in some DL talent like EDM did.  We could have just paid the fines and a DP like BC did last year.

I'm not saying we still can't win it just doing our same old same old, it's just not the way I would have gone about it.

[TecnoGenius]

Tyrell Bonds was a 62.1 which may be fodder to attack our corner play but he was better than Tyrell Ford last week, so take it with some salt.

Ty Ford has been 99% invisible this season so far.  However, teams might be avoiding him like they do Holm/Nichols.

He got way more "work" and recognition here.

[TecnoGenius]

If Schoen can't go, Mitchell will be highly motivated to show his new team they didn't make a mistake.

We would hope.  I wouldn't bet money on it!

[Jesse]

The bigger mistake would be mortgaging the future on the chance to win a championship on home field.

Don't be so reactionary over one bad loss.

I agree with you about not being reactionary, but how would we be "mortgaging the future" by spending a little extra if the opportunity arose?

You think paying a few thousands in fines or giving up a draft pick would affect us at all? For how long into the future would those affects last?

[Blue In BC]

I agree with you about not being reactionary, but how would we be "mortgaging the future" by spending a little extra if the opportunity arose?

You think paying a few thousands in fines or giving up a draft pick would affect us at all? For how long into the future would those affects last?

Spending is no guarantee of success in either short or long term. Just look at the Lions in 2024 signing Rourke and Betts.

Regardless, there isn't exactly a big list of expensive players that are available post free agency.

[BBRT]

I would mortgage the next 5 years is that's what it took to win the GC at home.  It's basically required to make up for 3 losses in a row.  You win this one at home and everything is forgiven and forgotten and the dynasty is sealed forever.

That said, clearly we didn't.  We didn't even spend the extra $400k like other teams did.  We could have kept Kenny, for instance, and brought in some DL talent like EDM did.  We could have just paid the fines and a DP like BC did last year.

I'm not saying we still can't win it just doing our same old same old, it's just not the way I would have gone about it.

I completely disagree with your comments. You build your team and business for long term goals and stability. No right thinking management organization thinks short term gain for long term pain.

[Jesse]

Spending is no guarantee of success in either short or long term. Just look at the Lions in 2024 signing Rourke and Betts.

Regardless, there isn't exactly a big list of expensive players that are available post free agency.

Obviously it's too late now, and I didn't mind what we did in FA.

But people speaking in platitudes about "mortgaging the future" or "long term goals" have never explained how they think it will hurt us. There isn't really a way to plan long term in the CFL. Nor is there a way you can really hurt yourself in the future.

[Blue In BC]

Obviously it's too late now, and I didn't mind what we did in FA.

But people speaking in platitudes about "mortgaging the future" or "long term goals" have never explained how they think it will hurt us. There isn't really a way to plan long term in the CFL. Nor is there a way you can really hurt yourself in the future.

Yes, we didn't know the SMS was going up by that much when free agency started. In theory that's what we were told. For that matter the league hasn't clarified how to apply the new number yet.

At best it might mean that teams re-sign a bunch of their own players before free agency 2026. That creates a new problem.

If we use 2025 money at the end of 2025, then we have an even larger amount of 2026 money to spend going into free agency.

IDK how this is going to work out.

[dd]

We need to get D line help asap, and if that means going over the cap, then so be it, the fine is laughable

[The Zipp]

We need to get D line help asap, and if that means going over the cap, then so be it, the fine is laughable

no parades for staying under the cap.  parades for winning the cup though...

[Jesse]

Yes, we didn't know the SMS was going up by that much when free agency started. In theory that's what we were told. For that matter the league hasn't clarified how to apply the new number yet.

At best it might mean that teams re-sign a bunch of their own players before free agency 2026. That creates a new problem.

If we use 2025 money at the end of 2025, then we have an even larger amount of 2026 money to spend going into free agency.

IDK how this is going to work out.

I'm not talking about the increase in SMS, we were having a conversation about going "all in" in a home grey cup year.

[Blueforlife]

We need to get D line help asap, and if that means going over the cap, then so be it, the fine is laughable

Disagree, can lose draft picks

I agree with you about not being reactionary, but how would we be "mortgaging the future" by spending a little extra if the opportunity arose?

You think paying a few thousands in fines or giving up a draft pick would affect us at all? For how long into the future would those affects last?

Draft picks are critical for longer term success
Canadian talent is critical for long term success

no parades for staying under the cap.  parades for winning the cup though...

Lots of parades for long term thinking winning clubsthat don't lose draft picks and stay the course

Obviously it's too late now, and I didn't mind what we did in FA.

But people speaking in platitudes about "mortgaging the future" or "long term goals" have never explained how they think it will hurt us. There isn't really a way to plan long term in the CFL. Nor is there a way you can really hurt yourself in the future.

Disagree with last point, current
Bombers are a great example of long term planning.  Consistent coaches, management and culture.  Run with a great vet QB, great cdn rbs and retian a core of vets.  Yes the CFL has turn over but you can hurt yourself in the future big time.  We did that for years before this epic mini dynasty.

I would mortgage the next 5 years is that's what it took to win the GC at home.  It's basically required to make up for 3 losses in a row.  You win this one at home and everything is forgiven and forgotten and the dynasty is sealed forever.

That said, clearly we didn't.  We didn't even spend the extra $400k like other teams did.  We could have kept Kenny, for instance, and brought in some DL talent like EDM did.  We could have just paid the fines and a DP like BC did last year.

I'm not saying we still can't win it just doing our same old same old, it's just not the way I would have gone about it.

Mortgage 5 years for maybe one good one, hard pass

[Jesse]

Disagree, can lose draft picks
Draft picks are critical for longer term success
Canadian talent is critical for long term successLots of parades for long term thinking winning clubsthat don't lose draft picks and stay the courseDisagree with last point, current
Bombers are a great example of long term planning.  Consistent coaches, management and culture.  Run with a great vet QB, great cdn rbs and retian a core of vets.  Yes the CFL has turn over but you can hurt yourself in the future big time.  We did that for years before this epic mini dynasty.

A) you don't lose a draft pick unless you're over by more than 100k

B) the only first round draft pick we have on our team is Connor Shay, who we drafted this year. Doesn't seem like it's affected us much.

[Blueforlife]

A) you don't lose a draft pick unless you're over by more than 100k

B) the only first round draft pick we have on our team is Connor Shay, who we drafted this year. Doesn't seem like it's affected us much.

You have suggested that there is no impact by going over the cap, there is.  Draft picks and good Canadian talent makes or breaks clubs. Calgary has a great receiver as 1st pick.  League is full of draft picks that make an impact. Shay and our picks has a chance to make a difference, they take time to develop.  Patience pays off.

To make any difference you would have to overspend by more than 100k imo.

Draft picks vary in their impact but it's the main way to build Canadian depth.

I have supported the way this club operates for many years; balancing the current needs while developing players to ensure a good future.  We don't overpay, we scout well.  We draft decent. What's made us great in the past and that will continue imo.