Stamps at Blue Bombers pre game thread

[Jesse]

That is the hallmark of WFC.  No YAC.  RECs in traffic.  No one open.  Blocking doesn't work, and screens are useless.

The only time we get YAC is on deep shots and one-on-ones.  Or sometimes with FS help, if the REC is Demski 

It's frustrating how little YAC we get as a team.  If there's a stat Junkie can pull up, I'm sure it'll show we suck bad compared to most teams.  Heck, some teams like MTL are nothing but YAC.

YAC:

1. MTL
2. HAM
3. TOR
4. OTT
5. SASK
6. WPG
7. BC
8. CGY
9. EDM

The differences are minimal, however. MTL leads the league with 117 YAC/game, with CGY at 8th with 105 YAC/game, a difference of only 12 yards. The only outlier is EDM, who only averages 74 YAC/game.

This is one of those things where we look at our team through a different lens than we do of other teams. What seems like a great weakness id something that's applicable across the league.

Another stat I saw while looking this up was that Winnipeg is #1 in average offensive points. We have the most successful offense in the league when they're on the field (but 4th in total points). We're missing the defensive and ST points that Hammy, Sask, and Mont are getting.

[Jesse]

YAC:

1. MTL
2. HAM
3. TOR
4. OTT
5. SASK
6. WPG
7. BC
8. CGY
9. EDM

Full disclosure: I'm re-reading the stats page and this could be referring to YAC against, as in how much our defense allows. It's difficult to tell.

When you compare the numbers to teams' passing yards it makes sense (Edmonton being way behind while others grouped pretty close together), but I can't be 100% sure.

[TBURGESS]

This is a huge game even though it's early in the season. If the Stamps beat us again, no matter the score, then they are the new team that you have to go through to make it to the Grey Cup. The new top team in the CFL. It would be the same as when we finally beat them 5 years ago to take over the top spot. That's what's on the line this week.

[markf]

That is the hallmark of WFC.  No YAC.  RECs in traffic.  No one open.  Blocking doesn't work, and screens are useless.

The only time we get YAC is on deep shots and one-on-ones.  Or sometimes with FS help, if the REC is Demski 

It's frustrating how little YAC we get as a team.  If there's a stat Junkie can pull up, I'm sure it'll show we suck bad compared to most teams.  Heck, some teams like MTL are nothing but YAC.

And the hope is that a smaller guy like stearns  can make quick moves and get something extra.

I wonder if our O is sometimes a bit too easy to "read"

But I have concluded in my wisdom, that it is mostly related to how Zach plays.

When he's on, they can't be stopped, when he's off they can barely get a first down.

Bo is the same.

We might want to take out the sideline pass that resulted in 14 points against us.

[Pete]

I agree, when Zac is on, and feels comfortable with protection hes able to hit those mid to long passes which opens up a lot of other things.
When hes not he reverts to short game which is often unsuccessful and hard to maintain on long field.

[Blue In BC]

I agree, when Zac is on, and feels comfortable with protection hes able to hit those mid to long passes which opens up a lot of other things.
When hes not he reverts to short game which is often unsuccessful and hard to maintain on long field.

How much of that relates to play calling and talent of the receivers? Wheatfall if becoming a good receiver but he's not Lawler. We don't have O. Wilson yet in 2025. We didn't have Oliveria for 2 of the 3 games Collaros was the QB.

Obviously Collaros is no longer a 25 year old QB and is on the downside of his career. However lots of other factors involved.

I wouldn't be too worried quite yet. If we get blown out by the Stamps this week, I might start to get a little more concerned but the Grey Cup isn't won in July. We started 2024 going 2- 6 didn't we?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Oh you better believe White will be on speed dial should we have a bad REC injury.  If Schoen is going 6GIR then I think we bring White back, assuming we can come to some arrangement($) where he'll accept PR if he knows he's next man up.

Don't think Schoen will be going to the 6 game, saw a clip of him participating in a drill beside Demski, he wasn't in uniform but it did not look like he had a serious problem moving. I'd prefer he sit out this game regardless, no need to rush him back.

[BBRT]

LOL, but you were probably saying that for the first 6 weeks of 2024 too.  Turns out he got us to another cup.

I for one will never try to predict when Zach has "lost it".  I'd say it would take 12 straight games of him looking like Ford before I do an armchair-GM cut.

Here is the deal my friend. The Trend is Our Friend - and I am willing to wait to see how the trend line looks for Zach over the next few games. Not looking for any short term answer just where things will line up over time.

[Blue In BC]

Every game is important but we need to put up or shut up. Winning is preferable. OTOH, if we lose we want to at least look like we are competing and not being out coached. Out coached includes making intelligent decisions about the AR taking into account injuries.

We have 3 starters that may not play but it's still TBD today as far as we know. Coaches may have already made those decisions but we won't know until Thursday.

Multiple possibilities exist for each player injured. On one hand I'd like to see what some of the depth players can do but on the other I hope we don't lose some starters.

[Blueforlife]

next man up will be tested this week looks like

[Blue In BC]

next man up will be tested this week looks like

Yes that's true. Because we don't really know who is actually out we're just guessing who the next man up will be. I guess that's the fun of it until we know what's going on.

OTOH, it might open the door for 1 to 3 players that have yet to play in 2025.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes that's true. Because we don't really know who is actually out we're just guessing who the next man up will be. I guess that's the fun of it until we know what's going on.

OTOH, it might open the door for 1 to 3 players that have yet to play in 2025.

Would have been nice to experiment if they weren't facing such a potent competitor, best save the discovery for easier games.

[Blueforlife]

With the talent we have, shouldn't be too much of a drop off.  Time to show the West who is boss.  Brady bully ball is what we need.

[gobombersgo]

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

High praise for Tony Jones, Kyrie and Joey Corcoran.