Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at BC., June 21, 2025

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 22, 2025, 03:37:13 PMIt was mentioned on the int intended to Demski that Collaros didn't account for the Lions safety. That may or may not be true. If the safety didn't make the play, then Demski probably adjusts to the ball and has a good chance to score.

Not all passes are perfect and receivers make adjustments and spectacular receptions.

So. Was it a perfect pass? No, certainly not. But it did have a chance to be completed and / or to draw an PI.

Obviously defences play too and it ended up as double coverage. That said receivers beat double coverage as well. Win some lose some. It keeps them honest though.

The TD pass to Schoen and to Eli were as good a placement as you'd hope for in any game.  Collaros in 2025 is not Collaros in 2021, that's to be expected.

Zach's first game in a long time was not a masterpiece, hopefully he gets better, couple of times in the first two games they are missing out on easy TD's because the QB can't hit the receiver in stride to Wheatfall and Demski. Underthrowing long balls can lead to interceptions, didn't matter much in either game but they should take note and discontinue calling for longer pass routes they can't fulfill.  A frank admission neither Zach or Strev can throw the ball 50 yds in the air would serve them well, clock it back to 40 yds. and throw the ball earlier.

Also Zach has to develop a little Trevor Harris and accept moving the ball in short strokes can be an effective way of advancing the ball downfield when necessary.  All too often in the last 2-3 years he loses patience with a methodical drive and will fling the ball, a drive and sometimes the game away carelessly because the defence is waiting in anticipation for him to throw the long bombs they know he prefers. Jordan Younger is teaching other CFL DC's the way to defend long passing plays, flood the field with DB's and surely one rover will always be left free to attack the ball.

Pete

Play calling on second half went too conservative, that dink and dunk is not our game
 Defense was impressive, have to say that Bridges concerns me, He was beat badly a few times just lucky Masoli could' t connect
 The other dbs were very good, Holm was all over the field, Nichols wa Nichols, and Parker was a big factor


Blueforlife

Quote from: Pete on June 22, 2025, 04:26:54 PMPlay calling on second half went too conservative, that dink and dunk is not our game
 Defense was impressive, have to say that Bridges concerns me, He was beat badly a few times just lucky Masoli could' t connect
 The other dbs were very good, Holm was all over the field, Nichols wa Nichols, and Parker was a big factor


Bridges is learning and will come around, seen him make one great play
I didn't mind go conservative based on the situation as BC offence stunk
But you are right, it's not our game and won't work most weeks against a strong O

Agree all those names incredible game

Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 22, 2025, 07:21:20 AMHey guys, the only one allowed to waffle around here is Waffler.  Switch to pancakes or french toast...

Pretty funny buddy

Pigskin

Quote from: Pete on June 22, 2025, 04:26:54 PMPlay calling on second half went too conservative, that dink and dunk is not our game
 Defense was impressive, have to say that Bridges concerns me, He was beat badly a few times just lucky Masoli could' t connect
 The other dbs were very good, Holm was all over the field, Nichols wa Nichols, and Parker was a big factor



Yes, Bridge is aggressive and some times makes the wrong read. A couple of times he was beaten bad.
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bunker

Quote from: Pigskin on June 22, 2025, 07:30:53 PMYes, Bridge is aggressive and some times makes the wrong read. A couple of times he was beaten bad.
He made the same mistake covering Hatcher with less than 2 minutes left against BC in the first game. If Masolli had not overthrown it, it would have gone for 6 points and brought BC within a touchdown. He tried to jump the route on a pump fake when there was absolutely no reason for doing so. He should have just played it safe behind the receiver and tackle them for a short gain when you're up by 14 with 1 minute 50 seconds left. If he doesn't smarten up, its going to cost us.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: bunker on June 22, 2025, 08:14:48 PMHe made the same mistake covering Hatcher with less than 2 minutes left against BC in the first game. If Masolli had not overthrown it, it would have gone for 6 points and brought BC within a touchdown. He tried to jump the route on a pump fake when there was absolutely no reason for doing so. He should have just played it safe behind the receiver and tackle them for a short gain when you're up by 14 with 1 minute 50 seconds left. If he doesn't smarten up, its going to cost us.

Bridges is probably the low man on the totem pole in the current secondary, if he screws up often he may be replaced mid-season or later by Cam Allen who shone in TC. Typically injuries force some shuffling so having a few spares with experience is advisable.

Stats Junkie

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 22, 2025, 09:06:44 PMBridges is probably the low man on the totem pole in the current secondary
This is one of the most misused idioms.

In most indigenous cultures that use totem poles, the low man is the most important man. He is usually the largest man, supporting the weight of all others on the totem pole.
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Quote from: Stats Junkie on June 22, 2025, 09:25:29 PMThis is one of the most misused idioms.

In most indigenous cultures that use totem poles, the low man is the most important man. He is usually the largest man, supporting the weight of all others on the totem pole.

never knew that...thanks

Blueforlife

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Quote from: bunker on June 22, 2025, 08:14:48 PMHe made the same mistake covering Hatcher with less than 2 minutes left against BC in the first game. If Masolli had not overthrown it, it would have gone for 6 points and brought BC within a touchdown. He tried to jump the route on a pump fake when there was absolutely no reason for doing so. He should have just played it safe behind the receiver and tackle them for a short gain when you're up by 14 with 1 minute 50 seconds left. If he doesn't smarten up, its going to cost us.
double edge sword, yes I agree with you but also gotta remember he will learn by his mistakes and has the skills to makes those plays at time, but agree gotta know when to hold em'

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 22, 2025, 09:06:44 PMBridges is probably the low man on the totem pole in the current secondary, if he screws up often he may be replaced mid-season or later by Cam Allen who shone in TC. Typically injuries force some shuffling so having a few spares with experience is advisable.
I would put money on him not getting replaced by Allen.  Agree on the injury shuffle.  Bridges has shown enough to have a medium long leash imo.  I believe he will get beat and will become a better player from the usually learning / developmental process.

I am high on Allen.  He needs time to season imo.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Stats Junkie on June 22, 2025, 09:25:29 PMThis is one of the most misused idioms.

In most indigenous cultures that use totem poles, the low man is the most important man. He is usually the largest man, supporting the weight of all others on the totem pole.

LOL, news to me.  Ok, Bridges is the bottom rung of the ladder but he is also a very talented player, so it doesn't mean much.

blue_gold_84

Defense led the charge last night in Vancouver. Parker had a monster game.
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Upon Further Review | Wpg 27 BC 14 - Ed Tait

THREE NUMBERS WHICH STOOD OUT...

1
Collaros finished the game 18 of 25 for 179 yards with two interceptions and two TD strikes — the one to Eli and the 200th of his career to Dalton Schoen on the game's first drive — and in the process now has 16,177 passing yards as a Blue Bomber. That leaves him just 180 yards shy of passing the legendary Ken Ploen for fourth spot on the franchise's all-time yardage list.

Collaros is at 16,177, Ploen is at 16,356 with the top three Dieter Brock at 29,623, Khari Jones at 20,175 and Kevin Glenn at 18,116.

"It's huge having Zach back," said Schoen. "He's the leader of our offence and one of the best leaders of our team so it's obviously important to have him around and running the show for us."

2 Winnipeg forced five turnovers on the night — interceptions by Evan Holm and Parker, Jr., the fumble recovery by Parker, Jr, a turnover on downs and a Jaylen Smith recovery of a botched punt return. Those five gaffes led to 17 points, including the Parker, Jr. score.

Through the two games with the Lions Winnipeg had eight turnovers.

3 The Blue Bombers had five penalties for 43 yards, including two objectionable conduct infractions by Willie Jefferson — the second coming late in the game and leading to his ejection.

Jefferson didn't do interviews post-game but Lions O-lineman Kory Woodruff — who was also part of the late fracas, picked up a 20-yard penalty for abuse of an official. Afterward, he accused Jefferson of a dirty hit in an interview with J.C. Abbott of 3Down Nation.

"Willie Jefferson, he did something dirty to one of my teammates, and I'm not just gonna let that slide, so we got into a little bit of an altercation," Woodruff told Abbott. "They claim I hit the ref, I didn't hit the ref. It'll be sent to the Review Centre, and we'll go from there.

"Dirty, dirty. Did something dirty to my teammate, so it was retaliation. Still, I've got to be better than that. I've got to understand the moment. I'll be better next time."


https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/06/22/upon-further-review-wpg-27-bc-14/
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Quote from: Jesse on June 22, 2025, 12:33:47 PMBut Wallace showing well gives us the option if needed, though I feel bad for Vanterpool.

Wallace did very well.  He's like an immovable object.

However, I noticed that on every single snap he was the slowest to get out of his 3-point and start his blocking.  If a team had a super fast DL guy, they could possibly match them up to try to beat him off the mark.  Or a blitzing LB/DB timing the count...
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Quote from: markf on June 22, 2025, 04:05:02 PMIs there a site where the stats are available immediately?

The fantasy section of gamezone.cfl.ca updates in-game with a few-minutes delay and usually finalizes results/stats pretty darn fast after the game.

I now trust the fantasy section more than the cfl.ca player pages, though I'm sure they must draw on the same data collection.
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