Winnipeg @ BC the Rematch

[Blue In BC]

I think many are jumping the gun on both Cooley and Peterson.  They are both rookies and really have proven nothing.  Even one great game by Peterson doesn't mean anything, because first game rookies often blow things up because of lack of film (not to diminish his initial success).

It would take sustained success over many games for either to be considered to be "worth" anything in terms of trade or other-team interest.  Until then the IMP is just one of many "dime a dozen" hopefuls, and Peterson is just another JA27 (not a bad thing, mind you).

We can all be hopeful though!  They certainly appear to have the "it" factor so far!

We did acquire Peterson in trade along with moving up in the global draft.

[Blue In BC]

Any/all of the rookies, or guys who were mostly on PR in '24, will be "willing to return to the PR".  If they're not, then they'll get Gaitor'd and Rutledge'd.

For example, Vanterpool, Randolph and Peterson should all have no expectations to be on AR.  And the fact that we've been practicing with Wallace at LG not only hints that we'll go with 3 NAT OL (and thus Vatnerpool to PR), but we're almost certainly ARing (and probably starting!) Cooley.

Again, let's not get ahead of ourselves on all of these "expected PR" guys being on the PR.  That's the normal dev route.  No one should get a big head.  If nothing else they've all seen how easy it is to get on the AR as ratios / IRs dictate.

Peterson won't be bumped to PR whether Cooley is added or not. The conversation is about adding depth at RB, regardless of who starts.

Normally 2nd year players that didn't play much are willing to return to PR. That's not always true but teams seem to be pushing some to 1 game IR with higher SMS in 2025.

We should see the depth chart late today or early tomorrow.

[markf]

Doesn't matter now, but Re Collaros suspension for not answering a phone call....

When I get a call on my cell phone.. it announces who is calling.

Why didn't the drug testing callers phone do that?

Of course he would have immediately answered.

[Jesse]

Doesn't matter now, but Re Collaros suspension for not answering a phone call....

When I get a call on my cell phone.. it announces who is calling.

Why didn't the drug testing callers phone do that?

Of course he would have immediately answered.

It could also say unknown number or the name of the lab or company or person that Zach doesn't know.

There are times when I get 4-5 random calls a day. Some are automated messages, some in other languages, some just random surveys. I don't listen to any of their messages before deleting.

[LXTSN]

Getting Woods onto the AR is another tough choice regarding choosing the DI's. I don't think I ever expected to have both import DT's active at the same time. I'd like to but it's not easy. It seemed depth at DE would be the 1st choice. That meant seeing Person added.

Since Wood is still not healthy that's a question for another day. I don't think adding Person this week falls into the choices that will be made.

The injury to Oliveria and what we do about it is where choices will be made.

Would it work to replace Ayers at DE with Bailey (our global)? I thought he did a great job this preseason. Maybe that's the play to get Woods into the game?

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Would it work to replace Ayers at DE with Bailey (our global)? I thought he did a great job this preseason. Maybe that's the play to get Woods into the game?

Yes and a definite possibility but it still can't be a two for one. So in practice it would like something like this, (if, theoretically, you were trying to get Woods on, not saying we should, just showing a likely possible move to make it happen):

Ayers off, Bailey on  (DE/LB switch)
Kornelson off, Woods on (DT switch)

[Blue In BC]

Would it work to replace Ayers at DE with Bailey (our global)? I thought he did a great job this preseason. Maybe that's the play to get Woods into the game?

A global doesn't have to replace an import. The 2nd global comes at the cost of a Canadian. So we could add Bailey and still keep Ayers on the AR. Ayers is not a DE but as depth could be part of a 34 formation when needed.

The problem is that he's one of the candidates to remove if we want to DI Cooley. There are several options and we're just debating which would be the most beneficial.

Yes, Ayers could be removed to get Woods on the roster but he's not healthy yet so that's moot at the moment.  IMO the choice might be to add Person at DE if Ayers is removed. That help at DE would be more valuable against a QB like Rourke maintaining outside pressure and contain.

[Blue In BC]

Another possible roster change is adding Hagerty. He's a very good ST player and seems to be healthy again. The catch is that we might be adding the 2nd global in Bailey. If that doesn't happen then Hagerty could replace Novak. Hagerty has 46 games CFL experience compared to 1 for Novak.

We're overloaded at LB and thinner at DB. However our ST's played very well and I'm not sure if we want or intend to make any change regardless of a new addition. I'm also not sure if Novak played on any of the ST teams or what his role was specifically.

Novak seems to have some talent and skill we liked when drafted.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Any/all of the rookies, or guys who were mostly on PR in '24, will be "willing to return to the PR".  If they're not, then they'll get Gaitor'd and Rutledge'd.

For example, Vanterpool, Randolph and Peterson should all have no expectations to be on AR.  And the fact that we've been practicing with Wallace at LG not only hints that we'll go with 3 NAT OL (and thus Vatnerpool to PR), but we're almost certainly ARing (and probably starting!) Cooley.

Again, let's not get ahead of ourselves on all of these "expected PR" guys being on the PR.  That's the normal dev route.  No one should get a big head.  If nothing else they've all seen how easy it is to get on the AR as ratios / IRs dictate.

If they switch out Vanterpool for Wallace they'd probably 1 game him, he's in his second season with the team and sending him back to the PR would send a negative message after putting in a superb effort in game #1. I agree any rookie, draft pick or bubble player should accept PR assignment without question, including Peterson if necessary, most are still new to the game and have much to learn and adapt.

[The Zipp]

It could also say unknown number or the name of the lab or company or person that Zach doesn't know.

There are times when I get 4-5 random calls a day. Some are automated messages, some in other languages, some just random surveys. I don't listen to any of their messages before deleting.

Yah it isn't going to say "CFL drug testing line calling.."

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Another possible roster change is adding Hagerty. He's a very good ST player and seems to be healthy again. The catch is that we might be adding the 2nd global in Bailey. If that doesn't happen then Hagerty could replace Novak. Hagerty has 46 games CFL experience compared to 1 for Novak.

We're overloaded at LB and thinner at DB. However our ST's played very well and I'm not sure if we want or intend to make any change regardless of a new addition. I'm also not sure if Novak played on any of the ST teams or what his role was specifically.

Novak seems to have some talent and skill we liked when drafted.

I heard that Hagerty just started running yesterday, so he still might be a few weeks away from full participation.

If Novak is rostered, no doubt he's playing ST, but most likely a temp situation until Hagerty or Kelly come back.  Makonzo might be gone for half a season or more, which likely favours Shay's situation more than anyone else.

[Jesse]

I heard that Hagerty just started running yesterday, so he still might be a few weeks away from full participation.

If Novak is rostered, no doubt he's playing ST, but most likely a temp situation until Hagerty or Kelly come back.  Makonzo might be gone for half a season or more, which likely favours Shay's situation more than anyone else.

If Clercius is out too, we pretty mush have no choice but to put Hagerty in. We were already talking about potentially 3 NAT WRs to solve ratio.

[Blue In BC]

If Clercius is out too, we pretty mush have no choice but to put Hagerty in. We were already talking about potentially 3 NAT WRs to solve ratio.

We'd put in Cobb. At least he's a receiver and not a DB / ST player.

[The Zipp]

from Farhan:

Another day of no practice for Nathan Rourke. Certainly hard to imagine a path to him playing on Sat. Masoli with all the first team reps.
No Berryhill Thurs after injuring quad yesterday. J Jackson taking 1st team reps.
Tuehema returns to lineup after suspension.

[markf]

Yah it isn't going to say "CFL drug testing line calling.."

 That's exactly what it should say.