GDT Mtl at Ott, Fri June 13, 6:30PM

Started by gobombersgo, June 13, 2025, 12:35:34 PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on June 14, 2025, 03:57:27 PMI still don't know why or how Shiltz is in the league still, he's had multiple opportunities to prove he can play at this level and all he does is confirm he shouldn't be on the field.

Because we're still in a QB-deprived state as a league.  There are barely enough good starting QBs, let alone ones that can win you games as the backup.

Heck, last year even (the much-vaunted, dynasty) WFC was down to Wilson as the #2, and look how that went in the GC.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 14, 2025, 02:25:33 PMOttawa played better than I expected. Kept it close into the 3rd, then Montreal took over.

OTT D stepped up in that middle 2 Qs.  They laid some pain on MTL's O, so there's that.  OTT O never really got anything going, as they are suffering from Claybrooks/BC/M.Reilly syndrome (no OL plus top RECs equals bupkis).
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Stats Junkie on June 14, 2025, 02:15:52 PMLast night Shiltz had 3 passes intercepted, all behind the line of scrimmage.

I've never before witnessed as many tips (let alone tips for INTs) in one game.  They for sure must be drilling trying to jab up when doing "batdowns".  This can't be just by chance.  We should emulate.

Also, never seen a team sus out the screen as well as MTL.  We should totally scheme fake screens on them where we then drop it into the vacated flat.  It's easy to setup a fake screen.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 17, 2025, 07:42:34 AMShiltz has never been a 50%.  He's more like a 25%.  That's why he's dropped by every team.  He's like a bad version of Kevin Glenn.

Strev is a 50%, and clearly Strev is miles better than Shiltz.

That said, no QB would have played well behind that OL and with that awful running game.  Hideous.  Dru's gonna get IR'd a lot this season methinks.


Desjarlais has been in Ottawa since 2023, you'd think they could have built a decent O-line around him in that time. If they're struggling to protect, the fastest way out is to increase the number of Imports until they attain stability.  If they can't keep Brown healthy this season, everybody in the house is going to lose their jobs.

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 17, 2025, 04:20:24 PMDesjarlais has been in Ottawa since 2023, you'd think they could have built a decent O-line around him in that time. If they're struggling to protect, the fastest way out is to increase the number of Imports until they attain stability.  If they can't keep Brown healthy this season, everybody in the house is going to lose their jobs.
They won't keep him healthy and yes, a long overdue house cleaning is coming. Should have happened this off season.

markf

Against Sask Their centre moved over to double team someone and just let Sask no 6, who was loitering...

Blast straight into Dru. No running back to help either.

Then He did the same thing when Shilz was qb.

They're going to be down to crumbs soon.

It's like Willie with the Bombers.

theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 17, 2025, 06:43:22 AM3Q5:54 The fact they have to stop the game and have a ref run to the sideline to chat with the HC and waste 60s of everyone's time for no reason just to comply with the incredibly dumb and useless DNA/DNS rule proves once and for all it should be scrapped.

(Dyce beind warned Stanback has been in for nearly his 25 plays.)

If you want to keep this dumb rule, then at least find a better way to notify the HC.  Maybe allow the spotter to call down directly to the HCs or their coordinators, during normal game time (i.e. clock running).


Why are they warning them at all? 

No one warns them if someone lines up offside, or if they have too many men, or if they have no end... wait until they exceed the number of snaps and assess the penalty of an ineligible player on field or whatever the penalty is. 

No need to hold the coaches hand on this, the TEAM needs to track and follow the rules.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on June 17, 2025, 06:36:20 PMWhy are they warning them at all

I agree, except it's written into the rules, pretty plainly and clearly.  But you are right, and there's an even better example: the "starters ratio".  Teams have to keep track of their own ratio and DI subs.  I'm not even sure spotters track that in real time (but I think they study it post-game and fine/punish).  So why not the 25-snap situation?

What I find funniest about the situation with Dyce is he seemed to have zero clue whatsoever that Stanback was getting close to his 25 limit!!  You'd think the team would at least have a feel for how close they are getting!

Scrap the rule.
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Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 17, 2025, 07:44:42 AMBecause we're still in a QB-deprived state as a league.  There are barely enough good starting QBs, let alone ones that can win you games as the backup.

Heck, last year even (the much-vaunted, dynasty) WFC was down to Wilson as the #2, and look how that went in the GC.

I wouldn't say we're QB-deprived. It's just an incredibly hard position to play. Even millions of dollars and the best scouts, coaches and development teams that money can buy doesn't do it.

Here's some recent examples: Browns (Watson/Winston), Giants (Jones/DeVito), Panthers (Young), Jets (Rodgers, lol), Titans (Levis/Rudolph), Patriots (Jones/Zappe).

And if you look at trend lines in that league you find annually, you've got around 8 very good/elite starters, 10-14 average to slightly below average guys and then 8-12 poor or struggling teams. The CFL broadly and generally speaking follows a comparable trendline with probably more volatility given the smaller number of teams.

Waffler

I also think we are not QB deprived. Every team has a legit starter on their roster.
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The Zipp

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 19, 2025, 03:12:26 PMI wouldn't say we're QB-deprived. It's just an incredibly hard position to play. Even millions of dollars and the best scouts, coaches and development teams that money can buy doesn't do it.

Here's some recent examples: Browns (Watson/Winston), Giants (Jones/DeVito), Panthers (Young), Jets (Rodgers, lol), Titans (Levis/Rudolph), Patriots (Jones/Zappe).

And if you look at trend lines in that league you find annually, you've got around 8 very good/elite starters, 10-14 average to slightly below average guys and then 8-12 poor or struggling teams. The CFL broadly and generally speaking follows a comparable trendline with probably more volatility given the smaller number of teams.


don't be laughing at Rodgers, he is leading my Stillers to a Super Bowl and he owns your Bears...

Sir Blue and Gold

Just want to acknowledge and thank the posters who are doing these game day threads and also putting in the depth charts. Has made my viewing experience much better being able to quickly come here during games to check on injury adjustments and such. Kudos!

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: The Zipp on June 19, 2025, 05:02:13 PMdon't be laughing at Rodgers, he is leading my Stillers to a Super Bowl and he owns your Bears...

Laughing is the only thing that helps  ;D

markf

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 19, 2025, 05:40:24 PMLaughing is the only thing that helps  ;D

Reddit NFL discussions about Aaron, are quite entertaining. American football fans are "elite" when it comes to mockery.
Overall , they hate him.

Should be a great Reddit comedy NFL season with Aaron playing for the new Jeff Fisher.  Mr. "Never had a losing season"

The Zipp

Quote from: markf on June 19, 2025, 05:49:38 PMReddit NFL discussions about Aaron, are quite entertaining. American football fans are "elite" when it comes to mockery.
Overall , they hate him.

Should be a great Reddit comedy NFL season with Aaron playing for the new Jeff Fisher.  Mr. "Never had a losing season"

the facts are there Tomlin hasn't had a losing season in 18 seasons as a head coach.  rodgy is going to deliver this season just wait and see.