Streveler

[pdirks67]

I loved Streveler's performance last night, and he exceeded my expectations. He's a gamer, a leader, and bleeds Blue and Gold.

But...he threw into traffic on multiple occasions and multiple completions were to wide-open receivers. He threw 1 pick and could have easily had a couple more had the BC DB's been able to catch. I closed my eyes and held my breath a few times, and multiple fans around me were shaking their heads with some of his decisions.

I'd call myself a "Streveler-realist" (as opposed to a "doubter"). In my opinion, he has the ability to create havoc and causes confusion for the defence because he could choose to run the ball himself. This somewhat compensates for his skill as a pure passer. Put this together, and you've got a decent short-term backup QB that you want in your dressing room for his leadership. But I don't see him as a legit QB1, and I wouldn't want Zach losing any snaps to try to get more mileage out of Strev. 

Terry Wilson seems to have a real knack for running the short yardage offence. Honestly, I think he might be better at it right now than Strev.

[dd]

Streveler really proved doubters wrong last night. I questioned his ability to play the position but you can't really go out and fake what he did last night. He belongs and I think somewhat surprisingly, he's putting it all together. I'm significantly happier about our QB room now. Most impressively, although the defense played great, it wasn't a case of taking advantage of short fields. Streveler led that offense on long drives from deep in our end over and over to win the game. I'm a believer.

Yes he did. He played a great game and is a legit #2 Qb. I m hoping we can get him more reps than the token short yardage play and risk him getting hurt. Man, wish we would have had Strev in the Grey Cup playing like he did last night, we all know what the outcome would have been. He seems to just jack up everyone around him and we roll over teams

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I loved Streveler's performance last night, and he exceeded my expectations. He's a gamer, a leader, and bleeds Blue and Gold.

But...he threw into traffic on multiple occasions and multiple completions were to wide-open receivers. He threw 1 pick and could have easily had a couple more had the BC DB's been able to catch. I closed my eyes and held my breath a few times, and multiple fans around me were shaking their heads with some of his decisions.

I'd call myself a "Streveler-realist" (as opposed to a "doubter"). In my opinion, he has the ability to create havoc and causes confusion for the defence because he could choose to run the ball himself. This somewhat compensates for his skill as a pure passer. Put this together, and you've got a decent short-term backup QB that you want in your dressing room for his leadership. But I don't see him as a legit QB1, and I wouldn't want Zach losing any snaps to try to get more mileage out of Strev. 

Terry Wilson seems to have a real knack for running the short yardage offence. Honestly, I think he might be better at it right now than Strev.

To be fair this was Strev's first game in a very long time, I've been critical of his skillset myself, but I don't think we can fully evaluate his future potential based on this one game, he surprised a lot of people with his play.  I don't know how he's going to evolve or if he'll ever be given the chance to do so in Wpg or elsewhere.  He may go down in CFL history as little more than a fiery backup QB with a lot of heart that helped the Bombers win a GC or two. OTOH if Jackson invests time in him and they give him sufficient playing time to develop, he may be ready to take over from Zach in 2027.

 

[Big Daddy]

To be fair this was Strev's first game in a very long time, I've been critical of his skillset myself, but I don't think we can fully evaluate his future potential based on this one game, he surprised a lot of people with his play.  I don't know how he's going to evolve or if he'll ever be given the chance to do so in Wpg or elsewhere.  He may go down in CFL history as little more than a fiery backup QB with a lot of heart that helped the Bombers win a GC or two. OTOH if Jackson invests time in him and they give him sufficient playing time to develop, he may be ready to take over from Zach in 2027.

 

I agree - but I wouldn't say it is just one game, as he really showed some ability in the preseason as well. 

I like your optimism though.  I am a realist in that he could very well end up a footnote, being someone that was always fired up and got the team going, and helped in situations but never carried a team to greatness or won a GC.  In terms of the optimism - who knows - maybe he keeps improving (he clearly has since 2019 in my opinion), and with the right support he does become a legit starter. 

I'm not holding my breath for that, but I'd love to see that for him.  And I love that he is a Bomber.

[Big Daddy]

Terry Wilson seems to have a real knack for running the short yardage offence. Honestly, I think he might be better at it right now than Strev.

quick point to address the quote - Wilson has only done this a very limited amount of times.  He looked great yesterday and I would be thrilled if he can keep it up on short yardage.  However, Strev has a few more games showing his prowess and skill for this particular function, and I would be hesitant to say anyone is better than him at it with limited tape to evaluate.

While I started this conversation, I too would list myself as a Strev realist.  I hadn't been sold on him in the past but always cheered for him to do well.  If you didn't love him after the 2019 parade, you didn't have a heart. 

I am hoping he can keep this up, and hoping this isn't a modified version of Troy Kopp (there I am showing my age...).  No disrespect to Kopp, I was at that game where he came in and won.  It just didn't translate into long-term.  Strev isn't in that position, I know, I just thought it was a reasonable illustration to emphasize he has shown some development beyond the restrictions hindering him last year before the major injury.

As an aside - his recovery from that knee injury is amazing, from a medical perspective, and he definitely did everything he could to get back to playing this year. 

This is one motivated individual that will not quit.  Just another reason to cheer for him.

[TecnoGenius]

- QB Controversy!  Haha, just kidding.  We're blessed in WPG to not have had a real one since Matty Ice showed up (even then, wasn't a real or juicy controversy!)

- Strev was wearing the Bionic Commando(TM) knee brace, which someone already mentioned here, but is worth repeating.  Maybe not visible on TV?  Definitely is slowing him down, especially on acceleration, but should keep his knee from blowing up

- Whenever Strev got a batdown or bad play he came off the field completely livid and spitting venom at the air.  Love to see it, complete (straight?) fire and will to win

- He looked like 2018 Strev, where he'd win .500, which is good enough for a backup.  (Though he can't rely on the Raging Bull Strev run attack anymore.)  Heck, it appears all that NFL time may help him be more a .700, which would be stunning for a $115k QB

- Strev was out a long time post-game in the player signature pen, signing autographs and just generally being available.  He was holding up some baby later on with a lady: I'm assuming his wife & kid.  Great to see.  (Edit 1Q6:18 Brit says it was his new baby daughter Sunny and fiance, who I must say was easy on the eyes.)

[TecnoGenius]

quick point to address the quote - Wilson has only done this a very limited amount of times.  He looked great yesterday and I would be thrilled if he can keep it up on short yardage.  However, Strev has a few more games showing his prowess and skill for this particular function, and I would be hesitant to say anyone is better than him at it with limited tape to evaluate.

Wilson was very good on SY last season too.  I think better than Strev before he was IRd.

However, having Strev do SY gives you a ton of extra options, and we should 100% be doing the keep-Strev-in trick after SY conversions, in tempo so the D has to stay jumbo.

We could end up using both QBs for SY this year.  Maybe 0-.75Y Wilson, and .76-2Y and/or 2nd down Strev?  I'm really curious to see what the plan is.  Knowing Mafia it'll be KISS, and I'll guess Strev get SY.

[TecnoGenius]

And Jake Maier has a very nice throwing motion.

whats his w/l Record.

Touche.

Mic drop.

[TecnoGenius]

I don't know if I would hang the great tag on the D just yet. There was some breakdown in the secondary.

I think BC finally figured out one of our sides was "bad".  I couldn't make it out in the haze of anger I felt at those plays @ PAS... but I'm guessing it's all Bridges.  Find the weak spot and exploit.  They may have been able to win the game that way!  Get that side some safety help!

(Correct me if I'm wrong on the player, I'm still re-watching...)

[TecnoGenius]

Strevs bronco busting days are over, didn't have much success running the ball last season and now he's dragging around a damaged leg. Time for him to grow up and see if he can become a real QB that only runs when he has the opportunity to slide.

1. BC clearly planned hard to stop Strev runs.  I think they devoted a huge chunk of focus to that, and it cost them stopping Peterson and some of the pass game.

2. Strev in a brace will be limited mobility.  (Will it ever come off?)

3. I think we tried more times than seemed sane to have Strev run just as a ploy to open things up.  We didn't care if he got stuffed, we had ulterior motives.  Seems to have worked masterfully, eh?

4. Almost all Strev runs were planned/called.  Mostly delay QB run.  Maybe he didn't delay enough?  In any event, everything from the pocket was called, not some Strev panic / "no reads" thing.  See #3.

[TecnoGenius]

Not sure if Pierce's QB playing time as a battling QB made his question Streveler's ability, or maybe even (just conjecture) envy them?  Or his sideline coaching not being able to utilize and adapt as well as in the booth.

Hogan seems to have embraced the Lapo use of Streveler.

I had exactly the same thought.  Wouldn't Buck have been Strev's QB coach the first time Strev was here??  Did Buck just not like him?  Or is Buck just completely unable to see what tools he has in the chest?  (And why didn't MOS set him straight?)

Maybe there was some bad blood, or something.  However, this is bizarre as Strev is 100% affable and amiable.  He's literally never said boo in any interview in 6 years, and is always giving off that awww shucks country vibe.

[TecnoGenius]

I did think he'd run a bit more but that increases the risk of injury. The Lions might have thought that as well and that may have opened up the passing game more.

Haha, what I just said: you beat me to it!!

He did a great job but he has such an odd throwing motion. His accuracy has improved but I was a bit concerned he was not looking off the defence a few times and telegraphing throws.

Odd motion, but it's a crazy fast wind and release.  He doesn't throw, he hucks!  He winds back only a fraction of what other QBs, like Zach, do.  And he doesn't need much arm on it to get it really far downfield.

So that's why I'm a bit confused why at times those Ds can cheat up and get in the lane.  Is it like you say and he's just staring down his target so they just cheat to his eyes?  Because with the super fast huck motion you think DBs would have no time to get anywhere.

If it's just a stare-down issue, a smart OC and QB coach could teach him to use that as a massive advantage by doing some fake look-offs.  His motion may be set in stone, but fake-look tricks can be taught even to that old dog.

[TecnoGenius]

Strev got quite a few batdowns near the LoS.  I think this is 2 things:

1) His zip-line passes are by nature low, and thus batdown-vulnerable.

2) He seems to be unable to notice or care about where the DL is with their hands up in his lanes.  Zach is very good at this and will find another read.  Strev just chucks it into hands anyways.  Weird.

[TecnoGenius]

Hey, Jarious on the bench with Strev as the QB Whisperer.  Cool!

[jdrattops]

they were agressive and on a number of occasions knocked the ball out the receiver's hands or just before he caught it.

there was a chance for this game to look a bit different if Masoli can connect with Hatcher who was well behind coverage.  would have made it a one score game with under 2 minutes left.  i think we would have still won but in the CFL you never know. 

Hatcher is a very good player and they will make plays - we aren't going to get shut outs every game.  defence played excellent for their first game together.

Let's not start the year with "ifs".  If Castillo doesn't miss an extra point and then a fg shortly after we have a 3 score ball game instead of 2.  Ifs never happen, Masoli missed his target plain and simple.