Streveler

Started by Big Daddy, June 13, 2025, 06:46:33 AM

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on June 13, 2025, 02:41:39 PMI think it's true to a point. Strev needs an offensive coordinator who is going to design an offence for him to be successful. We saw his best plays coming off a bootleg which caught the defence going the wrong way and left WRs wide open.

The short quick passes into traffic were often batted down or almost intercepted still.

This was also a one game sample size where the Lions were clearly expecting a different version of Streveler, so it's hard to suddenly make sweeping declarations that he's suddenly become this high level passer despite a lot of evidence to the contrary.

Regardless, I think Buck Pierce was not a good match for Strev for one reason or another and Hogan seems a much better fit.

Agree with this view, Strev did well, but he pulled a rabbit out of his hat unexpectedly, if and when he plays again this season DC's will be looking for that rabbit and know what he's going to do with it. He's now an adequate QB, maybe he can grow and get better but playing time will be limited, so who knows.  He gives the Bombers better security if Zach goes down but with Collaros signing an extension through next season, it's not worth speculating on Strev's future beyond this year.

theaardvark

On the post game, they were talking about major knee reconstruction.  While you may be able to play this quick, you won't be back to 100% for another year.

If this was not 100%, and he can/will get better and more mobile, he may start having people think he can be a starter in this league.  Even Bomber fans ;) .
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I don't think Streveler's performance last night is akin to a magic trick.

It looks more like causation to me. Hogan seems to better understand what Streveler's strengths and weaknesses are, and more importantly how to maximize the former while minimizing the latter.

I'm really looking forward to what Hogan has planned with Collaros returning to the line-up for week 3.
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I'm not hung up on his throwing motion. It's the results that count. IMO, he gets enough velocity, trajectory, and accuracy to get the job done at the pro level. At 30, I don't think he's ever had the chance to develop his passing skills yet. He can still improve with playing time. And then there's his running ability which speaks for itself.

Dieter Brock had an odd side arm throwing motion. Henry Burris had a very high delivery. Look at other sports. Strange swings in golf, like Palmer, Bubba Watson, and the current number one player, Scottie Scheffler. How about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with his skyhook. All very successful athletes, with unorthodox mechanics. 

Blue In BC

Quote from: bomb squad on June 13, 2025, 05:26:54 PMI'm not hung up on his throwing motion. It's the results that count. IMO, he gets enough velocity, trajectory, and accuracy to get the job done at the pro level. At 30, I don't think he's ever had the chance to develop his passing skills yet. He can still improve with playing time. And then there's his running ability which speaks for itself.

Dieter Brock had an odd side arm throwing motion. Henry Burris had a very high delivery. Look at other sports. Strange swings in golf, like Palmer, Bubba Watson, and the current number one player, Scottie Scheffler. How about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with his skyhook. All very successful athletes, with unorthodox mechanics. 

Brock had the strongest arm in the CFL. In fact he used to practice during the off season throwing heavy cannonballs like a football.

Streveler has a strong arm but he does have odd mechanics.
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theaardvark

Funny thing.

Much as Rourke gets all the accolades for his NFL stint, Streveler had a much longer and more successful NFL career. 

Speaking of NFL, we still have Elgersma to consider in this equation.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: bomb squad on June 13, 2025, 05:26:54 PMI'm not hung up on his throwing motion. It's the results that count. IMO, he gets enough velocity, trajectory, and accuracy to get the job done at the pro level. At 30, I don't think he's ever had the chance to develop his passing skills yet. He can still improve with playing time. And then there's his running ability which speaks for itself.

Dieter Brock had an odd side arm throwing motion. Henry Burris had a very high delivery. Look at other sports. Strange swings in golf, like Palmer, Bubba Watson, and the current number one player, Scottie Scheffler. How about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with his skyhook. All very successful athletes, with unorthodox mechanics. 

Strevs bronco busting days are over, didn't have much success running the ball last season and now he's dragging around a damaged leg. Time for him to grow up and see if he can become a real QB that only runs when he has the opportunity to slide.

Sir Blue and Gold

Streveler really proved doubters wrong last night. I questioned his ability to play the position but you can't really go out and fake what he did last night. He belongs and I think somewhat surprisingly, he's putting it all together. I'm significantly happier about our QB room now. Most impressively, although the defense played great, it wasn't a case of taking advantage of short fields. Streveler led that offense on long drives from deep in our end over and over to win the game. I'm a believer.

Pigskin

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 13, 2025, 05:54:32 PMStreveler really proved doubters wrong last night. I questioned his ability to play the position but you can't really go out and fake what he did last night. He belongs and I think somewhat surprisingly, he's putting it all together. I'm significantly happier about our QB room now. Most impressively, although the defense played great, it wasn't a case of taking advantage of short fields. Streveler led that offense on long drives from deep in our end over and over to win the game. I'm a believer.

I don't know if I would hang the great tag on the D just yet. There was some breakdown in the secondary. Parker also got out muscled by a big receiver. But, it was the first game for a new group so expected some breakdowns. I did like Youngers more aggressive front 7.  As a whole there was to many penalties. Need to clean that up.
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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 13, 2025, 05:54:32 PMStreveler really proved doubters wrong last night. I questioned his ability to play the position but you can't really go out and fake what he did last night. He belongs and I think somewhat surprisingly, he's putting it all together. I'm significantly happier about our QB room now. Most impressively, although the defense played great, it wasn't a case of taking advantage of short fields. Streveler led that offense on long drives from deep in our end over and over to win the game. I'm a believer.
i thought tsn commentators had a great point when they complimented Hogan on letting Strev roll out more, hes more confident, sees the field better and cuts down the reads he can make.
That said he still has to make the plays which he did.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Pigskin on June 13, 2025, 06:18:38 PMI don't know if I would hang the great tag on the D just yet. There was some breakdown in the secondary. Parker also got out muscled by a big receiver. But, it was the first game for a new group so expected some breakdowns. I did like Youngers more aggressive front 7.  As a whole there was to many penalties. Need to clean that up.

I think they played a great game. They had a wonderfully dominant first half. I saw very few true breakdowns. Guys will always occasionally get beat in one-on-ones down the field and when their eyes are in the wrong spot but Parker on that play you are referring to, was in the right spot which is 95% of the job. Concerning is seeing guys loose in coverage. That happened very infrequently last night which for week one defense is exactly what you want.

markf

Quote from: bomb squad on June 13, 2025, 05:26:54 PMI'm not hung up on his throwing motion. It's the results that count. IMO, he gets enough velocity, trajectory, and accuracy to get the job done at the pro level. At 30, I don't think he's ever had the chance to develop his passing skills yet. He can still improve with playing time. And then there's his running ability which speaks for itself.

Dieter Brock had an odd side arm throwing motion. Henry Burris had a very high delivery. Look at other sports. Strange swings in golf, like Palmer, Bubba Watson, and the current number one player, Scottie Scheffler. How about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with his skyhook. All very successful athletes, with unorthodox mechanics. 

And Jake Maier has a very nice throwing motion.

whats his w/l Record.







The Zipp

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 13, 2025, 06:31:54 PMI think they played a great game. They had a wonderfully dominant first half. I saw very few true breakdowns. Guys will always occasionally get beat in one-on-ones down the field and when their eyes are in the wrong spot but Parker on that play you are referring to, was in the right spot which is 95% of the job. Concerning is seeing guys loose in coverage. That happened very infrequently last night which for week one defense is exactly what you want.

they were agressive and on a number of occasions knocked the ball out the receiver's hands or just before he caught it.

there was a chance for this game to look a bit different if Masoli can connect with Hatcher who was well behind coverage.  would have made it a one score game with under 2 minutes left.  i think we would have still won but in the CFL you never know. 

Hatcher is a very good player and they will make plays - we aren't going to get shut outs every game.  defence played excellent for their first game together.

Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: The Zipp on June 13, 2025, 07:15:00 PMthey were agressive and on a number of occasions knocked the ball out the receiver's hands or just before he caught it.

there was a chance for this game to look a bit different if Masoli can connect with Hatcher who was well behind coverage.  would have made it a one score game with under 2 minutes left.  i think we would have still won but in the CFL you never know. 

Hatcher is a very good player and they will make plays - we aren't going to get shut outs every game.  defence played excellent for their first game together.

Totally. That one was right in front of me last night. One of the few really rookie mistakes that was super noticeable anyway. Up two scores, you can't get beat deep with the time that was left on the clock. Giving up a 15 yard out is probably okay in that scenario. Also is potentially a call Younger might want back, you really also don't want to put your rookie corner in that position late in a game with what looked like no help to that side of the field over the top. Maybe just a case of mental fatigue from a guy who played a good game and is getting used to the CFL too. Super correctable and coachable either way.

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Quote from: Pigskin on June 13, 2025, 06:18:38 PMI don't know if I would hang the great tag on the D just yet. There was some breakdown in the secondary. Parker also got out muscled by a big receiver. But, it was the first game for a new group so expected some breakdowns. I did like Youngers more aggressive front 7.  As a whole there was to many penalties. Need to clean that up.
Disagree, I'll hang the great tag on the D.  Been great for years and that has continued.  Younger plus Hall and our depth = great D imo.

All teams have players that will beat our guys on occasion, but overall we can shut most teams down imo.  Bridges will continue to develop.  Parker will be fine.

Strev proved me wrong, I bet on BC.  Strev has looked fantastic.  Proved so many wrong.  Statement game.  Needs another handful to cement the fact he can throw effectively but a great 1st step.  He had a lot of poise in the pocket.