Streveler

[Big Daddy]

Okay I have commented elsewhere that I thought Strev looked great in preseason, and I was cautiously optimistic that he would surprise with his arm today.  I think he did - 3 touchdown passes were not likely expected by anyone.

However, there is something else I noticed today being there live.  With handoffs - at times he would try to sell that he was carrying and run opposite.  But more often, I really noticed as soon as he handed the ball off he would then run upfield and and try to throw blocks for the runner.  I even noticed at one point he tried to run ahead, saw the runner was ahead and backed of but then came around and tried to throw whatever blocks he could to help move the play.

I don't remember seeing that from other QB's in CFL - rather, do the sell that you didn't hand it off. 

It was a bit reminiscent of Favre with the Vikings.  At least that is the best example I can remember of a QB rushing ahead and blocking for the RB.

Anyone else notice this?

[TecnoGenius]

Ya Strev does a few different things to mess up the D.  And he'll do them all with either a keep or a handoff, so not only do they have to guess the play, but which player has the ball.

1. Run right behind the RB.  (Does guy #1 or #2 have it? Who do you tackle?)

2. Run 1 or 2 gaps over behind the RB (i.e. close).  (Which carrier do you run to?)

3. Run perpendicular to the RB.  (Keep contain or crash into the box?)

And ya, on some of those plays Strev can start getting downfield to block once the D sniffs out the ball.  It's precisely the same playbook that worked so well in '19.  Buck ignored it completely after Strev returned.  Hogan's reviving the magic.

[Blue In BC]

I did think he'd run a bit more but that increases the risk of injury. The Lions might have thought that as well and that may have opened up the passing game more.

He did a great job but he has such an odd throwing motion. His accuracy has improved but I was a bit concerned he was not looking off the defence a few times and telegraphing throws.

Regardless. He showed progress and ability to win against a good team.

[blue_gold_84]

He showed progress and ability to win against a good team.

This right here. He silenced a lot of critics with his performance last night, IMO.

[Blue In BC]

This right here. He silenced a lot of critics with his performance last night, IMO.

We might see him rotate at QB at times even when Collaros returns. He brings a different option and threat than Collaros. There should be less hesitation if the offence isn't clicking entirely to use him.

I'm not suggesting a 2 QB system with frequent substitution but wouldn't ignore giving Collaros a breather every now and then. We need to keep Streveler involved because we never know when he HAS to play part of a game etc.

[theaardvark]

If he goes back tp the SY, stay in for first down package, that can be very effective.

Even just subbing in for the last series before the half can give Colaros an extra long breather before teh second half.

[GOLDMEMBER]

It was an impressive performance by the QB he threw with nice accuracy and touch.

I'm happy for Strev.

[markf]

This right here. He silenced a lot of critics with his performance last night, IMO.

I hope so. The guy has been underrated for his entire career.

It's almost dogma.... "Strev can't throw"

It was never true.

Edit saw this at 3 down

Dalton Schoen re Streveler:

" We know he's a great player and he can make those throws."

[Jesse]

I hope so. The guy has been underrated for his entire career.

It's almost dogma.... "Strev can't throw"

It was never true.

I think it's true to a point. Strev needs an offensive coordinator who is going to design an offence for him to be successful. We saw his best plays coming off a bootleg which caught the defence going the wrong way and left WRs wide open.

The short quick passes into traffic were often batted down or almost intercepted still.

This was also a one game sample size where the Lions were clearly expecting a different version of Streveler, so it's hard to suddenly make sweeping declarations that he's suddenly become this high level passer despite a lot of evidence to the contrary.

Regardless, I think Buck Pierce was not a good match for Strev for one reason or another and Hogan seems a much better fit.

[markf]

I think it's true to a point. Strev needs an offensive coordinator who is going to design an offence for him to be successful.

I suppose, but

Isn't that  true of most CFL quarterbacks?

Fajardo won a Grey Cup for instance. He might not be known as a very accurate long ball passer.

Anyway, I'm a streveler fan.

[blue_gold_84]

I think it's true to a point. Strev needs an offensive coordinator who is going to design an offence for him to be successful.

I don't think Pierce ever got a firm grasp on Streveler's skill set, much less how to use it effectively within his system.

It's a tiny sample size, but Hogan appears to have figured it out.

And that performance should be a huge boost to Streveler's confidence (not that he needs it) going forward.

[Jesse]

I suppose, but

Isn't that  true of most CFL quarterbacks?

Fajardo won a Grey Cup for instance. He might not be known as a very accurate long ball passer.

Anyway, I'm a streveler fan.

Fajardo is another good example of someone we've seen look really really terrible and then comes out of no where and performs better than he rightfully should sometimes.

There's a tier of player that comes in and just makes the coach look good. I don't think Strev or Fajardo are in that tier.

There's also a tier of coach that designs his offence around his players, not the other way around. We saw Younger be that kind of coach for our defence last year. I don't think we can put Pierce in that tier. But maybe Hogan is.

[markf]

There's also a tier of coach that designs his offence around his players, not the other way around. We saw Younger be that kind of coach for our defence last year. I don't think we can put Pierce in that tier. But maybe Hogan is.

Amen.

It should be fun watching the Bombers Defence being different this season from last season.

I won't be surprised if Younger goes to the NFL one of these years.

[theaardvark]

Pierce vs. Streveler < Lapo + Streveler.

Not sure if Pierce's QB playing time as a battling QB made his question Streveler's ability, or maybe even (just conjecture) envy them?  Or his sideline coaching not being able to utilize and adapt as well as in the booth.

Hogan seems to have embraced the Lapo use of Streveler.

All in all, Streveler 2025 has matured nicely into this offence, and I look forward to his use going forward, especially with the opportunity for load management for our veteran top pivot.

I have to admit, it wasn't the prettiest game I've seen from a QB, there were a lot of "Whattt?" throws, and ineffective scrambles I would have expected more on from CS17, but there is no debating he can make plays and he has the fire.  That one late hit by Betts where he chased him to the sidelines while Betts ran away was quite funny, and 100% Streveler.

I think everyone in Bomberland feels a lot better going forward with Streveler at #2. Wilson was perfect at SY.  I wonder if we can keep Chase in camp on the IR or PR, I think he has a certain something I want to see more of.

[Pigskin]

Strev played like he has been practicing. Got the ball out quick, some good reads, and some nice throws. Still has the ugliest throwing motion in football. I don't think we will see him run like he use to, a noticeable hitch/limp and the knee brace. However I think he showed he has made some improvements to his game, and will be a nice backup for ZC8. I don't see him running the SY now.