Game 1 Day roster

Started by Blue In BC, June 07, 2025, 05:39:27 PM

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Sir Blue and Gold

#60
Quote from: Blue In BC on June 11, 2025, 07:56:06 PMBombers move receivers around and expect them to be able to play at every spot. So I get your meaning but I don't think that's applicable for Case and his 1 reception over veterans that played various receiving roles.

Not really, no. They move around for sure and they attack from different spots bu they don't really rotate them in a general way like you've suggested. That makes no sense. They want them to know the whole offense but they don't try to have them execute each spot like it's a paint by numbers every play. Clercius doesn't do Demski's sweeps. Demski didn't get Lawler's one on one down the rail high points, Wheatfall isn't going to block inside Iike Clercius, Schoen isn't going keep being asked to blow to the top off coverage like I think they'll have Sterns do (at least not typically). Additionally, offensive systems at higher levels have internal working concepts and names that usually govern the main roles of that receiver. X,Y,Z etc or other naming conventions which do the same thing. In the playbook it's not R SB SB SB R like the depth chart.


Blueforlife

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 12, 2025, 01:10:49 AMNot really, no. They move around for sure and they attack from different spots bu they don't really rotate them in a general way like you've suggested. That makes no sense. They want them to know the whole offense but they don't try to have them execute each spot like it's a paint by numbers every play. Clercius doesn't do Demski's sweeps. Demski didn't get Lawler's one on one down the rail high points, Wheatfall isn't going to block inside Iike Clercius, Schoen isn't going keep being asked to blow to the top off coverage like I think they'll have Sterns do (at least not typically). Additionally, offensive systems at higher levels have internal working concepts and names that usually govern the main roles of that receiver. X,Y,Z etc or other naming conventions which do the same thing. In the playbook it's not R SB SB SB R like the depth chart.


Agree all

TecnoGenius

#62
Quote from: LXTSN on June 11, 2025, 12:51:01 PMThis is not true, but I can see where you got that info.
Why am I always digging my feet in the sand for these totally unproven players?? Didn't work with Pigrome, McCrae, Evans.........

I'd put McCrae in the "success" column.  He always did what we needed him to as an entry-level RB/REC.  He was the best dual-threat not named AH33 we had in a long while at the time.  Much better than JA27 (who can't really catch).

I'm hoping Logan and Cooley can fill that McCrae "wildcard" hole, but do it even better!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 11, 2025, 03:26:37 PMItem 3. Neither global appears on the AR at the moment. I thought 1 was mandatory?

Ah... you're forgetting Sheahan.  There's your 1 mandatory GLOB.  2nd GLOB can be a NAT instead.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on June 12, 2025, 05:38:39 AMAh... you're forgetting Sheahan.  There's your 1 mandatory GLOB.  2nd GLOB can be a NAT instead.

Easy guy to forget about. LOL. Updates on CFL.CA and roster don't show the same thing at the moment. Mitchell, Weitz, J. Jones and even Lofton still show on AR but the others show on IR.

Not sure if it means something or just sloppy book keeping
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on June 12, 2025, 01:10:49 AMNot really, no. They move around for sure and they attack from different spots bu they don't really rotate them in a general way like you've suggested. That makes no sense. They want them to know the whole offense but they don't try to have them execute each spot like it's a paint by numbers every play. Clercius doesn't do Demski's sweeps. Demski didn't get Lawler's one on one down the rail high points, Wheatfall isn't going to block inside Iike Clercius, Schoen isn't going keep being asked to blow to the top off coverage like I think they'll have Sterns do (at least not typically). Additionally, offensive systems at higher levels have internal working concepts and names that usually govern the main roles of that receiver. X,Y,Z etc or other naming conventions which do the same thing. In the playbook it's not R SB SB SB R like the depth chart.



I over stated my comment and that wasn't quite what I meant. But the team is good at confusing defences and finding optimum match ups.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Pete on June 11, 2025, 09:23:22 PMLooking at the roster not rostering Mitchell is sending the message that starting spots have to be earned and not based on salary.
Not starting Jones to me is a mistake he was our best lb during preseason. rostering Kornelson in lieu of Munier-Bailey makes little sense. (or even Novak for that matter)
It seems every year O'Shea has a soft spot for the little engine that could.
Our Canadian depth right now is not great,  oline cdn receiver and even dback have gone from being deep to not. We did address the lb depth nicely and I do believe we are stronger than ly  in our imports.

Tony Jones is back from 2024 and the coaches may have some veteran bias / loyalty in not having J. Jones start. I actually expected him to start at WIL before we re-signed Wilson. That's another veteran loyalty in play.

I would have even thought J. Jones would be on the roster ahead of Ayers. All of the LB's are very good, but the choices are at least somewhat surprising.

Let's see how it works out. If we fail to stop the run or get pressure on Rourke it will be a long day.
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Blue In BC

#67
I've never been very confidant in Streveler as a good starting QB. At best I thought he might be a good game manager if surrounded by a very good supporting cast.

Today we may have 3 new starting OL. Not rookies but significant changes. Two new starting receivers, one is new to team the other has moved up from being mostly on the PR in 2024.

We have a new OC for 2025.

Hopefully Streveler proves me wrong and is able to complete more than a bunch of short passes. The defence has to worry what can happen downfield or they move closer to the LOS and take away the run game.  We need to see a balanced attack.
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The Zipp

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 12, 2025, 01:56:52 PMI've never been very confidant in Streveler as a good starting QB. At best I thought he might be a good game manager if surrounded by a very good supporting cast.

Today we may have 3 new starting OL. Not rookies but significant changes. Two new starting receivers, one is new to team the other has moved up from being mostly on the PR in 2024.

We have a new OC for 2025.

Hopefully Streveler proves me wrong and is able to complete more than a bunch of short passes. The defence has to worry what can happen downfield or they move closer to the LOS and take away the run game.  We need to see a balanced attack.

same, and Buck will be very aware Strev's abilities and tendencies.

Pete

Strev will have to stretch out the field early by going deep
If I was Hogan Id start with 6 oline and have Wheatfield and Schoen run mid to deep routes.
 He needs to establish the threat other wise BC is going to load up the short area and make life very tough for Strev and Olivera.

The Zipp

would like to see Wilson get the opportunity to chuck that ball deep - i don't know if Strev can with any accuracy

Jesse

Quote from: The Zipp on June 12, 2025, 02:16:53 PMwould like to see Wilson get the opportunity to chuck that ball deep - i don't know if Strev can with any accuracy

I certainly wouldn't trust Wilson either.
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Waffler

Who will be the short yardage QB? This game, but also going forward in non-Strev starts.  What will happen to Artopoeus if we come out injury free?
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The Zipp

Quote from: Waffler on June 12, 2025, 02:37:10 PMWho will be the short yardage QB? This game, but also going forward in non-Strev starts.  What will happen to Artopoeus if we come out injury free?

i hope it's Terry for this game - he has some speed/experience.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: The Zipp on June 12, 2025, 02:51:22 PMi hope it's Terry for this game - he has some speed/experience.

It would be nice to see Wilson get a few SY snaps this game, once Zach comes back he might not touch the field again for a long time.