Game 1 Day roster

[Jesse]

Lofton still hasn't practised. Whether he is better than Randolph is moot at the moot.He must be headed to IR and we don't know when he'll even be an option. Just guessing but it's beginning to look he might be a candidate for the 6 game and beyond IR.

The injury report indicates knee issue. That could be serious or minor. Not practising suggests more than a week IMO.

I'll say it again, that I'm surprised Case was kept on the PR. Of all the receivers we had in TC, he's the one we kept? It might be said he's currently the back up as our returner. Vaval will do that week 1 but when will Logan be back. He's on the 1 game IR but that doesn't guarantee he's ready for week 2.  If he isn't practising at all this week, I think it takes him a couple of games to get " ready " even if the injury is nearly normal.  Game speed and all that.

Note that the 1st daily IR report doesn't include anyone we didn't know about. Except for Lofton the others are already on the IR lists.

SOmething we know about this organization is that they don't care if a player has practised before putting them into games. Until that depth chart comes out, I wouldn't be sure of anything. And even then, there will be some depth shenanigans as we've seen.

[Blue In BC]

SOmething we know about this organization is that they don't care if a player has practised before putting them into games. Until that depth chart comes out, I wouldn't be sure of anything. And even then, there will be some depth shenanigans as we've seen.

It's one thing to do that limiting a player during a given week. It's another when a player hasn't practised all of TC and this week so far.

I'll be stunned if Lofton doesn't get put on IR.

[Jesse]

It's one thing to do that limiting a player during a given week. It's another when a player hasn't practised all of TC and this week so far.

I'll be stunned if Lofton doesn't get put on IR.

I'm pretty sure this is how it went for Brady and maybe Neufeld last year? They were injured all of camp and came in for game 1.

[Blue In BC]

I'm pretty sure this is how it went for Brady and maybe Neufeld last year? They were injured all of camp and came in for game 1.

Multiple season Canadian starters. Limited but I don't recall missing all practice. Neufeld  missed 4 games last year but did he miss part of the early games?

Anyway I stand by the fact I'll be stunned if Lofton is able to play.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Multiple season Canadian starters. Limited but I don't recall missing all practice. Neufeld  missed 4 games last year but did he miss part of the early games?

Anyway I stand by the fact I'll be stunned if Lofton is able to play.

No he didn't but he wasn't playing well due to injury so they ended up taking him out of the lineup later on so that he could recover properly.

[Blue In BC]

No he didn't but he wasn't playing well due to injury so they ended up taking him out of the lineup later on so that he could recover properly.

He might be injured again. Lofton is out according to reports. So OL is not at 100%.

I suppose Neufeld could dress but not start but that's another risk. More likely Vibert gets added.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

He might be injured again. Lofton is out according to reports. So OL is not at 100%.

I suppose Neufeld could dress but not start but that's another risk. More likely Vibert gets added.

The clock maybe winding down on Neuf and this could be his last year, important to keep the pipeline of Natl O-linemen flowing and stop the outflow.  This year they need one replacement, next year maybe another.

[Pete]

We are very thin ot nat oline,esp if Neufeld cant go at close to   100%. Ly he was ineffective at the start due to injury.
 Doesn't look like theres a lot of options other than Vanderpool and hoping Eli or Wallace can step up. Hopefully Vibert can contribute but that may be asking a lot of a 4th rnd draft pick in first year

[Blueforlife]

Lofton still hasn't practised. Whether he is better than Randolph is moot at the moot. He must be headed to IR and we don't know when he'll even be an option. Just guessing but it's beginning to look he might be a candidate for the 6 game and beyond IR.

The injury report indicates knee issue. That could be serious or minor. Not practising suggests more than a week IMO.

I'll say it again, that I'm surprised Case was kept on the PR. Of all the receivers we had in TC, he's the one we kept? It might be said he's currently the back up as our returner. Vaval will do that week 1 but when will Logan be back. He's on the 1 game IR but that doesn't guarantee he's ready for week 2.  If he isn't practising at all this week, I think it takes him a couple of games to get " ready " even if the injury is nearly normal.  Game speed and all that.

Note that the 1st daily IR report doesn't include anyone we didn't know about. Except for Lofton the others are already on the IR lists.

Case knows the system and could Come in on spot duty without issue
The mafia values continuity and experience and so do I

[Blue In BC]

Case knows the system and could Come in on spot duty without issue
The mafia values continuity and experience and so do I

3 games in 2024. 3 punt returns and 3 k/o returns 1 reception for 5 yards. A pylon could be as effective. Case is hardly continuity.

[Blueforlife]

3 games in 2024. 3 punt returns and 3 k/o returns 1 reception for 5 yards. A pylon could be as effective. Case is hardly continuity.

2nd year with the club, just because you don't value him on the PR doesn't mean he doesn't have value.  He knows the systems, players, playbook, coaches, QBs, has played in regular season, thus be brings more continuity than a fresh face .  That's why he is on the PR.  He is also there because a professional football teams management and coaches belive in him and have kept him around.  Depth player on this ball club.

Making a CFL team is incredibly hard, let alone getting on the active roster in a none special teams position.  Give the guy some credit.  I haven't seen much out of him either but I trust the mafia and believe he could run a route, catch a pass or kick and contribute without making a big mistake.

He might provide some value a blocker, not sure, a little small for that role.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4249736/type/college-football

[Blue In BC]

2nd year with the club, just because you don't value him on the PR doesn't mean he doesn't have value.  He knows the systems, players, playbook, coaches, QBs, has played in regular season, thus be brings more continuity than a fresh face .  That's why he is on the PR.  He is also there because a professional football teams management and coaches belive in him and have kept him around.

Making a CFL team is incredibly hard, let alone getting on the active roster in a none special teams position.  Give the guy some credit.  I haven't seen much out of him either but I trust the mafia and believe he could run a route, catch a pass or kick and contribute without making a big mistake.

He might provide some value a blocker, not sure, a little small for that role.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4249736/type/college-football

Vaval is currently on the AR as the returner replacing Logan who is on the IR . So that means Case, is a 3rd option at best at the moment. So Vaval is that fresh face and he just managed that. Earlier discussions were considering letting Mitchell return kicks so that pushes him even further down any depth chart.

Could that change tomorrow? Sure. Will it in favour of Case? I'm not expecting it.

Vaval is a pure CFL rookie and still was deemed a better option than Case. Wheatfall, Mitchell and Sterns ranked above him on the depth chart as receivers.

Yeah, I'd call him a pylon to his face since that is my opinion. He doesn't have to like it.

I choose to not have blind faith. I find it concerning that we brought 20 rookie receivers to camp and looked at numerous more in mini camps and none stuck over a guy that touched the ball 7 times in 3 games.

Every pro football player is expected to know the playbook. Being able to execute it at a level better than those in the competition.  Very few 2nd year players last if they can't be fighting to make the AR.  Every other PR player from last season is in legitimate competitions or are listed as starters as of today.

Feel free to block my posts.

[Blueforlife]

Vaval is currently on the AR as the returner replacing Logan who is on the IR . So that means Case, is a 3rd option at best at the moment. So Vaval is that fresh face and he just managed that. Earlier discussions were considering letting Mitchell return kicks so that pushes him even further down any depth chart.

Could that change tomorrow? Sure. Will it in favour of Case? I'm not expecting it.

Vaval is a pure CFL rookie and still was deemed a better option than Case. Wheatfall, Mitchell and Sterns ranked above him on the depth chart as receivers.

Yeah, I'd call him a pylon to his face since that is my opinion. He doesn't have to like it.

I choose to not have blind faith. I find it concerning that we brought 20 rookie receivers to camp and looked at numerous more in mini camps and none stuck over a guy that touched the ball 7 times in 3 games.

Every pro football player is expected to know the playbook. Being able to execute it at a level better than those in the competition.  Very few 2nd year players last if they can't be fighting to make the AR.  Every other PR player from last season is in legitimate competitions or are listed as starters as of today.

Feel free to block my posts.

You posted you were not sure why he made it on the PR over other players, which I provided my reasons why I believe he did.  Yes he isn't high on the depth chart but could come in if we have an injury or two.  This has nothing to do with blind faith of a player.  We all have little to go by for what he could contribute but I do trust this organization's take of him over you.  They have a few reasons why he is on the PR to be sure.  My original reply wasn't based on my opinion of the player but on reasons why I believe he was retained for a 2nd season.  He might not last on the PR once we get healthy but we shall see how they decide to juggle that.  Because he can fill a couple roles on the club makes him slightly more valuable.

Vaval plays D, that helped him make it.  I like what I see and I value players that can do multiple things.

You are understating the importance of continuity imo.  A 2nd year player generally will be more confident with the teams offense over fresh recruits.

We were very deep at receiver at camp with few spots to fill.  We filled them with players with experience.  Case showed something last year, in camp and in the preseason for the Bombers to retain him.   That's why he beat out those other players, because he has experience and can play a couple positions.

If you genuinely are interested in why they retained him, ask the coaches or management.

I am pleased with our depth at receiver.

[LXTSN]

3 games in 2024. 3 punt returns and 3 k/o returns 1 reception for 5 yards. A pylon could be as effective. Case is hardly continuity.

This is not true, but I can see where you got that info.
He did return punts and kicks for the bombers in 3 separate games. He returned a total of 24 punts and 6 kickoffs. He averaged 10.5 on punts and 25.2 on kickoffs. Not great but steady!

Why am I always digging my feet in the sand for these totally unproven players?? Didn't work with Pigrome, McCrae, Evans.........

[Blue In BC]

This is not true, but I can see where you got that info.
He did return punts and kicks for the bombers in 3 separate games. He returned a total of 24 punts and 6 kickoffs. He averaged 10.5 on punts and 25.2 on kickoffs. Not great but steady!

Why am I always digging my feet in the sand for these totally unproven players?? Didn't work with Pigrome, McCrae, Evans.........

You're right. I looked at the wrong column. Regardless, it's very little experience and virtually none as a receiver. Receiver might be why a player is retained on the PR, but as a returner seems more of a loyalty issue. There are always a bunch of players on the  roster that can do that.

I don't know. You tell me. Posters love under dogs I guess. O'Shea's use of the PR has always been a question. Was that last year we kept a 37 year old global punter on the PR, as an example or 2023? The best you can say is that Case was here and agreed to a PR spot. Maybe some others declined.

Maybe Logan is going to be out longer than we know and we may be changing a few things going into game 2?