Post preseason games cuts

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: The Zipp on June 01, 2025, 04:14:20 PMwell i think the D line has improved with Vaughters addition. sadly i dont see a marked improvement in the LB's..

wilson
jones
kramdi

if that is the starting lineup - can't say it is improved over last year. kyries looked slow last season...

is Bridges going to be starting in the secondary?



Not worried about the LB's, there is always plenty of rotation and the deck is stacked with good players.

The Zipp

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 01, 2025, 05:14:12 PMNot worried about the LB's, there is always plenty of rotation and the deck is stacked with good players.

good...not great

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: The Zipp on June 01, 2025, 05:21:55 PMgood...not great

I like this linebacking group a lot better than last year.

BomberFan73

Quote from: The Zipp on June 01, 2025, 05:21:55 PMgood...not great

Young, could be great. Especially the new picks.

theaardvark

I guess Webb's scoop and score wasn't enough to get him a PR spot, unfortunate.

D. Mitchell is a case of we paid for it, hopefully he gets back into shape...

M. Mitchell to Hamilton?  Too many bodies ahead of him here.  Guess Vaval beat him out for the KR/DI spot.

Surprised White took a PR spot.

Whatfall, Sterns, Mitchell vying for 2 spots, 1 DI.  Guessing Mitchell is DI until he gets back into shape.  And if he doesn't, White steps in.

8 OL on the AR?  Have we done that before?  A DI Olineman?  or 2?

Did Chase show enough to chase Wilson off the roster?  Game 1, sure, game 2, maybe not...


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Blueforlife

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Quote from: The Zipp on June 01, 2025, 04:14:20 PMwell i think the D line has improved with Vaughters addition. sadly i dont see a marked improvement in the LB's..

wilson
jones
kramdi

if that is the starting lineup - can't say it is improved over last year. kyries looked slow last season...

is Bridges going to be starting in the secondary?


Disagree about your take on LBs, agree DL looks solid.  Our starting LBs are good and will be great by year end as long as Wilson is healthy.  We have a lot of prospects behind them, returning players / vets.  I see this as a pilar of strength for us.   Overall an above average unit imo.  Our LBs will be very dynamic and a pillar of our D with so many different looks.

Hopefully Bridges can take the next step and that way we have many options.  But agree with others could see Allen sooner than later but as it is I think we look ok.  Just not sure if Bridges is ready.

Blue In BC

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Quote from: theaardvark on June 01, 2025, 06:22:09 PMI guess Webb's scoop and score wasn't enough to get him a PR spot, unfortunate.

D. Mitchell is a case of we paid for it, hopefully he gets back into shape...

M. Mitchell to Hamilton?  Too many bodies ahead of him here.  Guess Vaval beat him out for the KR/DI spot.

Surprised White took a PR spot.

Whatfall, Sterns, Mitchell vying for 2 spots, 1 DI.  Guessing Mitchell is DI until he gets back into shape.  And if he doesn't, White steps in.

8 OL on the AR?  Have we done that before?  A DI Olineman?  or 2?

Did Chase show enough to chase Wilson off the roster?  Game 1, sure, game 2, maybe not...




We won't have room for a receiver as a DI. There are already too many imports currently on the AR. Mostly at the LB position where we still have the 4 we started with from 2024 plus J. Jones . Lofton likely goes to IR or Randolph back to PR. Not sure what the injury is and we have until June 12 to evaluate.

At the moment it does look like a 3 import OL with the only question is Lofton status. That also means only 7 starting Canadians. 4 DI's of which 2 will be Laval as the returner and Castillo.

I think there ill only be room for 1 of Woods or Adams at DT. Then we have the question of 5 LB's: Jones, Jones, Wilson, Ayers and Griffin. One of the import receivers will need to be moved off the AR to PR I suppose.

Make your picks but I'm guessing Griffin sticks since he's the back up at SAM. Wilson and J. Jones as starters?
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Blueforlife on June 01, 2025, 07:01:04 PMDisagree about your take on LBs.  Our starting LBs are good and will be great by year end as long as Wilson is healthy.  We have a lot of prospects behind them, returning players / vets.  I see this as a pilar of strength for us.   Overall an above average unit imo.

Hopefully Bridges can take the next step and that way we have many options.  But agree with others could see Allen sooner than later but as it is I think we look ok.  Just not sure if Bridges is ready.

What do you disagree about the LB's? There may be a question as to which Jones we keep but there is no roster room for everybody on the AR. Even if Wilson is healthy is he an upgrade to Ayers or J. Jones at WIL? That's debatable.

Noting that when we had 9 Canadians starting we had roster space for Ayers and most importantly Bighill on the AR.  What we have is a change by deletion still somewhat in flux. If T. Jones is the MLB then isn't much change aside from deletions. Certainly depth would look better but will the extra Jones and / or Ayers even accept a PR spot?

Can J. Jones play SAM and bump Griffin?
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 01, 2025, 07:03:14 PMWe won't have room for a receiver as a DI. There are already too many imports currently on the AR. Mostly at the LB position where we still have the 4 we started with from 2024 plus J. Jones . Lofton likely goes to IR or Randolph back to PR. Not sure what the injury is and we have until June 12 to evaluate.

At the moment it does look like a 3 import OL with the only question is Lofton status. That also means only 7 starting Canadians. 4 DI's of which 2 will be Laval as the returner and Castillo.

I think there ill only be room for 1 of Woods or Adams at DT. Then we have the question of 5 LB's: Jones, Jones, Wilson, Ayers and Griffin. One of the import receivers will need to be moved off the AR to PR I suppose.

Make your picks but I'm guessing Griffin sticks since he's the back up at SAM. Wilson and J. Jones as starters?

Another 10 days of speculating until they rip off the bandage, a few hard decisions will have to be made. 

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on June 01, 2025, 07:44:45 PMAnother 10 days of speculating until they rip off the bandage, a few hard decisions will have to be made. 

Yes but I see no chance of a receiver as a DI at the cost of one of the defensive choices. Technically I think there is only room for 1 other player on the PR. Two spots are allocated to global players and we have 1 on the PR already. That's another issue in juggling the AR and overall roster.

Remote chance Vaval gets bumped by the extra receiver but then we'd also be thin at DB depth due to injuries. He was also the best healthy returner.
One game at a time.

Jesse

Quote from: BomberFan73 on June 01, 2025, 04:58:17 PMJudging by the amount of linebackers we kept, the plan will likely be to run a 3-4. I like that our LBs are pretty flexible and can either run stop or drop into the secondary.

6 DTs to have one of them in the field at a time? Don't think so.

Adams will see some time in the edge and there's likely more moves coming.
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RebusRankin

Quote from: Blueforlife on June 01, 2025, 07:01:04 PMDisagree about your take on LBs.  Our starting LBs are good and will be great by year end as long as Wilson is healthy.  We have a lot of prospects behind them, returning players / vets.  I see this as a pilar of strength for us.   Overall an above average unit imo.

Hopefully Bridges can take the next step and that way we have many options.  But agree with others could see Allen sooner than later but as it is I think we look ok.  Just not sure if Bridges is ready.

Kramdi is good but Wilson is old and declining (this isn't 2019 Wilson), Tony Jones is average.

Kramdi/J.Jones/Ayers is much more exciting.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: RebusRankin on June 01, 2025, 08:05:38 PMKramdi is good but Wilson is old and declining (this isn't 2019 Wilson), Tony Jones is average.

Kramdi/J.Jones/Ayers is much more exciting.
Agree on Kramdi
TJ will be above average
Yes JJ and Ayers are good, but that's why we will be so good as our depth is great.  Will see plenty rotation, different looks, like MOS says they all play.

Agree that trio is exciting but don't count TJ and Wilson out.  Wilson will provide stability, leadership and consistency if healthy yes and older player but I believe should have one more round in him.

Quote from: Blue In BC on June 01, 2025, 02:38:51 PMWe draft 2 global players and one isn't even good enough to make the PR? Why do we bother. Weitz makes the AR by default and even that may change.  Why didn't we just keep our 1st pick on the AR after trading up to get him. At worst he'd be of some use as rotational depth on the DL.
We bother with the global draft as you never know who might pop out.  You are not for the globals, we know that.
Quote from: Jesse on June 01, 2025, 03:18:23 PMEvans isn't surprising in the sense that the team seems to love Sheehan, though fans don't.

Mitchell has done nothing to prove he belongs here.
It's Sheahan
I like him
Hard to know how Mitchell will pan out
Last few years seen some massive leg punters in the league, which are awesome,  but it's not the only way to do it

Blue In BC

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Quote from: Blueforlife on June 01, 2025, 09:06:13 PMAgree on Kramdi
TJ will be above average
Yes JJ and Ayers are good, but that's why we will be so good as our depth is great.  Will see plenty rotation, different looks, like MOS says they all play.

Agree that trio is exciting but don't count TJ and Wilson out.  Wilson will provide stability, leadership and consistency if healthy yes and older player but I believe should have one more round in him.
We bother with the global draft as you never know who might pop out.  You are not for the globals, we know that.It's Sheahan
I like him
Hard to know how Mitchell will pan out
Last few years seen some massive leg punters in the league, which are awesome,  but it's not the only way to do it

The intent of the global program was to extend / increase the worldwide base of interest and revenue. That has been an absolute failure.

Global players are essentially a strange way of adding non Canadians as a form or DI's. They don't have to compete against actual imports since their spots on rosters are mandated. Essentially they only have to beat out a Canadian to achieve a 2nd player on the AR.

In the 2025 global draft, the 1st pick was cut outright by Calgary. I'm not sure if he survived the final roster cuts when picked up alter.

The 2nd pick was by the Bombers and he ended up on our PR.

Tell me how he's better than any of our import LB's that we can't keep due to ratio constraints for DI's. If any of our import LB's had the same criteria to make the roster ( rather than an arbitrary designation ), who would you keep.

I haven't checked but of the 18 global players drafted in 2025, how many made an AR?

I'm on record. Get rid of global designation and add 2 regular DI's instead. In that way, current and future global players can still make an Ar. They won't be handed a spot because of a " special " designation. They would just be non Canadian players.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on June 01, 2025, 09:27:19 PMThe intent of the global program was to extend / increase the worldwide base of interest and revenue. That has been an absolute failure.

Global players are essentially a strange way of adding non Canadians as a form or DI's. They don't have to compete against actual imports since their spots on rosters are mandated. Essentially they only have to beat out a Canadian to achieve a 2nd player on the AR.

In the 2025 global draft, the 1st pick was cut outright by Calgary. I'm not sure if he survived the final roster cuts when picked up alter.

The 2nd pick was by the Bombers and he ended up on our PR.

Tell me how he's better than any of our import LB's that we can't keep due to ratio constraints for DI's. If any of our import LB's had the same criteria to make the roster ( rather than an arbitrary designation ), who would you keep.

I haven't checked but of the 18 global players drafted in 2025, how many made an AR?

I'm on record. Get rid of global designation and add 2 regular DI's instead. In that way, current and future global players can still make an Ar. They won't be handed a spot because of a " special " designation. They would just be non Canadian players.
Not looking for a global debate.  We know your stance on the issue.  I have enjoyed seeing some fresh talent as a result of the program, mostly for punters.  You said why do we bother, which is simple, to get better as a gem of a global might be available.  For now, all clubs bother because that's how the league is setup at the moment, good, bad or ugly depending on one's take and opinion on the matter.

As a result of the global program, we have seen a few players contribute and maybe this year could happen again.