Post preseason games cuts

Started by GOLDMEMBER, May 31, 2025, 07:19:14 PM

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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 04, 2025, 02:49:26 PMI can't remember the last time a rookie got the job over the vet in training camp even if the vet didn't practice. In Bomber land, vets get the spots, promising rookies get PR unless the vet gets hurt.

I don't see us as being as good a team as we were last year.

We downgraded at O line, receiver and DB.
We didn't upgrade our punter, who was below average last year.
We hopefully upgraded at returner, but he's injured.
DE is the most likely upgrade, but we're paper thin, only having 2 on the roster, which isn't even enough to rotate them.
Collaros is another year older and will take more hits due to the O line.
We've got a rookie OC and Jackson is still a no show.
We'll win on the back of Brady O and rely on the defence to keep the score low.

I recall you've been saying this for last 3 years minimum running.

I love it when the Bombers prove you wrong.
Though I agree with cutting Evans was a mistake.
Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

bluengold204

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 04, 2025, 03:01:38 PMI recall you've been saying this for last 3 years minimum running.

I love it when the Bombers prove you wrong.
Though I agree with cutting Evans was a mistake.

He hasn't been wrong.  We've had a progressively worse record these last three years

Pete

Of note one could argue that the over reliance on aging vets has led to injuries and not being able to fill those positions adequately at grey cup time.
5 grey cups is a great testament to the bombers way, but against the eastern teams we appear to be losing some ground.

kkc60

Quote from: TBURGESS on June 04, 2025, 02:49:26 PMI can't remember the last time a rookie got the job over the vet in training camp even if the vet didn't practice. In Bomber land, vets get the spots, promising rookies get PR unless the vet gets hurt.

I don't see us as being as good a team as we were last year.

We downgraded at O line, receiver and DB.
We didn't upgrade our punter, who was below average last year.
We hopefully upgraded at returner, but he's injured.
DE is the most likely upgrade, but we're paper thin, only having 2 on the roster, which isn't even enough to rotate them.
Collaros is another year older and will take more hits due to the O line.
We've got a rookie OC and Jackson is still a no show.
We'll win on the back of Brady O and rely on the defence to keep the score low.
Yep, honestly not very promising offseason. Of course, that doesn't matter. But it seems like any issues we had last year might just be the same issue this year (except maybe returning, if blocking holds up)

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: bluengold204 on June 04, 2025, 03:07:55 PMHe hasn't been wrong.  We've had a progressively worse record these last three years
We keep winning the west though.
The GC loses are debatable in the reason we lost is injuries alone.
Season ticket holder since year 1 of the Reinbold era.

GOLDMEMBER

#125
Quote from: kkc60 on June 04, 2025, 04:21:03 PMYep, honestly not very promising offseason. Of course, that doesn't matter. But it seems like any issues we had last year might just be the same issue this year (except maybe returning, if blocking holds up)
I reserve judgement on if we still have the "same issues".
ST s needs to improved in the cover teams and return game. Miller better institute better practise.
Better OL play in pass blocking...here is hoping.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pete on June 04, 2025, 03:21:32 PMOf note one could argue that the over reliance on aging vets has led to injuries and not being able to fill those positions adequately at grey cup time.
5 grey cups is a great testament to the bombers way, but against the eastern teams we appear to be losing some ground.

Agree with this, in the last 2 seasons the Als and Argos have gotten the better of the Bombers by squelching their offensive output.  The Bomber D has held their own but Buck's offence struggled to produce points against two of the best defensive teams in the league. I think that may be the main reason they are considering the 3 Import O-line option, they may not use it all season but they could pull it out on special occasions.

Throw Long Bannatyne

#127
Bombers middle of the pack when it comes to average age, Riders oldest team in the league.

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Blueforlife

#128
Quote from: TBURGESS on June 04, 2025, 02:49:26 PMI can't remember the last time a rookie got the job over the vet in training camp even if the vet didn't practice. In Bomber land, vets get the spots, promising rookies get PR unless the vet gets hurt.

I don't see us as being as good a team as we were last year.

We downgraded at O line, receiver and DB.
We didn't upgrade our punter, who was below average last year.
We hopefully upgraded at returner, but he's injured.
DE is the most likely upgrade, but we're paper thin, only having 2 on the roster, which isn't even enough to rotate them.
Collaros is another year older and will take more hits due to the O line.
We've got a rookie OC and Jackson is still a no show.
We'll win on the back of Brady O and rely on the defence to keep the score low.
Disagree we are weaker.  I see a very good ball club again.
OL I have some worries, will take time for new group to gel.  Yes lost some talent to be sure.  Also got some good players to fill those gaps.
Punting non issue handled internally.  Zero worries here.
Return game we have no idea (yet).  Got a stud lined up a prospect that looks ok.  Not worried at all.
DE we fine
Receiver we are stacked! Yes lost some talent but we are so deep and will be fine if healthy
DB just need a corner to develop and our safety to get their feet wet, slightly worried
Zach zero worries, yes if he gets smacked around I'll panic lol
OC will be average
Brady building up to be an all time Cdn great!

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on June 04, 2025, 03:01:38 PMI recall you've been saying this for last 3 years minimum running.

I love it when the Bombers prove you wrong.

Heavy agree all

Quote from: bluengold204 on June 04, 2025, 03:07:55 PMHe hasn't been wrong.  We've had a progressively worse record these last three years
Yes he has been wrong.  We have been very consistent for years and class of the West for years.  What's also consistent is your negativity about the club and some will chime in with our blue glasses on, all good lol.

Quote from: Pete on June 04, 2025, 03:21:32 PMOf note one could argue that the over reliance on aging vets has led to injuries and not being able to fill those positions adequately at grey cup time.
5 grey cups is a great testament to the bombers way, but against the eastern teams we appear to be losing some ground.
Disagree we have filled in our positions very well
Losing ground on the East never lol
Yes they been good as of late

Quote from: kkc60 on June 04, 2025, 04:21:03 PMYep, honestly not very promising offseason. Of course, that doesn't matter. But it seems like any issues we had last year might just be the same issue this year (except maybe returning, if blocking holds up)
Disagree all pretty much.

Extremely good off season with value signings but yes some talent gone.

Yes it does matter.

See my post above for what issues I think we have.  Kick coverage needs to improve.

I am very happy with the talent we have on roster and PR.  If OL gels early, we golden.  Need back end defense to step up and we will have a top 3 d again.

All about bombs and runs on offence I believe and if Zach has time we shall sling nasty

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It is far too premature to say with any certainty that we will be good, bad or indifferent until real games start this season.
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VictorRomano

Quote from: ModAdmin on June 04, 2025, 08:26:23 PMIt is far too premature to say with any certainty that we will be good, bad or indifferent until real games start this season.

Every CFL fan knows "real" football doesn't even start until Labor Day.

Blueforlife

Quote from: VictorRomano on June 04, 2025, 08:30:21 PMEvery CFL fan knows "real" football doesn't even start until Labor Day.
Couldn't of said it better myself.  Often folks get critical early and I like to wait till fall.

GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: VictorRomano on June 04, 2025, 08:30:21 PMEvery CFL fan knows "real" football doesn't even start until Labor Day.
This statement has always been a meh comment to me. So are you saying the games prior to LD mean less than after?
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: bluengold204 on June 04, 2025, 03:07:55 PMHe hasn't been wrong.  We've had a progressively worse record these last three years

Woooooo, 5 straight cup appearances and #1 in W standings most years, wooooooo, scary bad record

It doesn't really matter if we win 2 less games a season or whatever.  That's as much a function of many other teams getting much better as WPG getting any worse.  And our record vs our division is still superb, and that's what really counts in the end of the regular season, not losses to TOR or MTL.

Not to say we haven't had our problem spots that get worse every year (like DT), but it's gotten so bad the only way to go now is up!
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: markf on June 04, 2025, 02:12:08 PMThe turnover rate is quite high, surprisingly so to me, although it may not seem like it.

I think for turnover we're about middle of the pack when you look at the whole league.  We always retain our middling players and main NATs, let some old guys walk/retire, and let a few unkeepables leave for FA$$.

There's still quite a few guys on the team who were in the '19 or '21 GC, and that's pretty rare.
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