Bombers @ Riders P2

Started by Pigskin, May 26, 2025, 05:58:19 PM

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Blueforlife

#30
Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on May 29, 2025, 10:07:48 PMI'd rather have Evans in there the short kick Sheehan. Will it happen? Probably not. We really need a boomer not a farter punting.
Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 29, 2025, 11:05:07 PMHaha I like Evans too.
The criticism on Sheehan is overstated imo.  Yes not a big leg but consistent and his directional punting is very good.  Will be interesting to see how the battle turns out.

Quote from: DM83 on May 29, 2025, 05:07:50 PMI wonder.     Is this version of an oline done. They have to be nuts to play Zac. Strev sucked. So they have to play him.  The  first league game will be a disaster.  Good luck.  Go defence
Mid season form I see.
Oline look to be good and likely great by year end if we stay healthy and gel.
Strev did ok.  He is what he is.
I see no disaster coming unless we lose half our starters.
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 29, 2025, 04:38:53 PMTwo things, Stanley is still earning near top dollar at his position and he's blocking the career paths of younger, cheaper up and coming players.  Can't afford to have both Randolph and Vanterpool lose interest in waiting for their opportunity because Stan wants to play another 2-3 years. For the betterment of the club this should be his last season.
He has helped develop the next gen and the only thing he is blocking is top DL.  OL players wait their turn and take time to develop.  Stan can stay as long as he wants, if healthy.

Sir Blue and Gold

Sheahan punts an ugly ball. He's great when you're punting from about our 40 and further but he struggles when we're pinned deep. To some degree it's preference but punters do exist who are both accurate and have a big leg. You don't just have to settle of accurate.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 30, 2025, 02:59:24 AMSheahan punts an ugly ball. He's great when you're punting from about our 40 and further but he struggles when we're pinned deep. To some degree it's preference but punters do exist who are both accurate and have a big leg. You don't just have to settle of accurate.
He has has some great games, some average and some poor.  To say he punts an ugly ball is over generalizing.  Yes top tier punters that can hammer it and directional punt exist but don't grow on trees and are expensive.  Agree regarding preference.  Consistency is important and he is steady as a rock.

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Blue In BC

#34
Rookies galore on the defence. Some really promising young DB's fighting for 1 possible spot on the AR. Several will probably land on the PR. Vaval makes the AR as a returner until Logan returns but safety is kind of up in the air.

I will watch to see who gets the most reps at safety and whether Parker gets any reps at CB. He can play both very well but where he ends up may fall on the performance of Allen.

Who wins the spots on defence as DI's?  Do we retain 2 DT's, 2 DE's or 3 LB's on the AR?  Because we drafted 3 LB's, that may decide on the direction of not having a LB as a DI.

That's a problem because of the talent we have with Wilson, Jones, Jones and Ayers.

Adams and Woods are very good DT's and Person has been getting good PR since last fall.
One game at a time.

theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 30, 2025, 02:59:24 AMSheahan punts an ugly ball. He's great when you're punting from about our 40 and further but he struggles when we're pinned deep. To some degree it's preference but punters do exist who are both accurate and have a big leg. You don't just have to settle of accurate.

I think the appeal of Sheehan is not the strength of his leg or even the directional accuracy.  Its the fact that he has so many different kicks that can confuse a return team.  If our team knows where the ball is going and how it is set to bounce, we should have an advantage, and that should translate into shorter returns and better net averages. 

I'm not sure how the stats look on that, and unless you have a very fast set of gunners, you can "outkick the coverage" with a big leg, so getting it waaaay down field is not always the best for net average.
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

DM83

ards your comment is kind of wishy washy?  Sorry, I didn't get your point.
The "new" punter doesn't impress me, and seems to get less from his kicks than traditionally expected.  If I want a good net, then the cover team better get off their *****, and get down field.

That would tell me we are on the right track.  Building in excuses for some "experiment" who isn't cutting it for the team is like listening to a discussion about the Toronto Maple Leafs.  If one of our boys can't get it done, get a real job.  No harm!  We need yardage in punts and kick offs if we want to win, not imaginary style points.  He does have a nice accent.

Blue In BC

I don't know that O'Shea doesn't stick with the veteran in Sheehan. Whether that's the right decision IDK. OTOH one could ask why we bothered to draft a punter if we didn't expect a real competition.

My position has been that we only roster 1 global on the AR ( our punter ) but Munier-Bailey had some high praise with upside expectations. We might need that global as the rotation guy at DE depending on what we decide for our DI's.

Just another TBD.
One game at a time.

theaardvark

I don't think that $SMS comes into it, Sheehan is not likely getting more than the GLB min.  He has done well with holding as well, he held both the 60+ yarders that set the CFL record...

Does he or Castillo do the on side kicks?  You'd wonder with Sheehan's repertoire of devious deliveries...  also, can Sheehan throw?  I'm guessing with a K that can nail it from 60, we wouldn't consider a drop kick ever...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 30, 2025, 06:11:22 PMI don't know that O'Shea doesn't stick with the veteran in Sheehan. Whether that's the right decision IDK. OTOH one could ask why we bothered to draft a punter if we didn't expect a real competition.

My position has been that we only roster 1 global on the AR ( our punter ) but Munier-Bailey had some high praise with upside expectations. We might need that global as the rotation guy at DE depending on what we decide for our DI's.

Just another TBD.


Unless things have changed (and I don't believe so) teams dress a minimum of 44 and a max of 45 players (44 being 21 nationals, 1 global, 19 Americans and 3 QBs). The last spot - roster number 45 can be either a Canadian or a Global (or an SMS savings). So in theory, your second global just has to be better than your 22nd best Canadian which makes rostering Munier-Bailey and Global punter relatively easy if we decide it's the best option.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 30, 2025, 06:40:31 PMUnless things have changed (and I don't believe so) teams dress a minimum of 44 and a max of 45 players (44 being 21 nationals, 1 global, 19 Americans and 3 QBs). The last spot - roster number 45 can be either a Canadian or a Global (or an SMS savings). So in theory, your second global just has to be better than your 22nd best Canadian which makes rostering Munier-Bailey and Global punter relatively easy if we decide it's the best option.

I'm not a fan of the global program. We draft 2 global players and everybody sticks on either the AR or PR. OTOH, we draft 6 Canadian players and it is the Canadian football league.

Things changed a bit with the number of Canadians injured that might be headed to IR. However, even as a non ratio supporter, I'm picking a Canadian choice.
One game at a time.

Pigskin

Game could be cancelled tonight due to air quality.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Pigskin on May 30, 2025, 07:44:15 PMGame could be cancelled tonight due to air quality.

Better safe than sorry but if that happens do we know when it would be rescheduled? Noting that tomorrow is officially cut down date which would also have to slide accordingly.
One game at a time.

Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 30, 2025, 07:46:58 PMBetter safe than sorry but if that happens do we know when it would be rescheduled? Noting that tomorrow is officially cut down date which would also have to slide accordingly.

Can't imagine it would be rescheduled if it's cancelled. Timelines are too tight.
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Sir Blue and Gold

That would super suck.