Bombers extend quarterback Zach Collaros through 2026

Started by Sir Blue and Gold, May 23, 2025, 07:41:25 PM

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on May 26, 2025, 04:57:52 PMHe is making 600 this year under the old cap number and I'll be shocked if he's making less next year.

3DN said in their podcast he signed for about the same numbers he was receiving.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 26, 2025, 06:05:23 PM3DN said in their podcast he signed for about the same numbers he was receiving.

Hard to tell what that is, he made 500, 550, 600 in the 3 years. I guess it'll be around 550?
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Quote from: Jesse on May 26, 2025, 06:41:47 PMHard to tell what that is, he made 500, 550, 600 in the 3 years. I guess it'll be around 550?

Pretty sure it's still $600k, he's restructured but has never taken a discount.

peg_city

Quote from: Jesse on May 26, 2025, 04:57:52 PMHe is making 600 this year under the old cap number and I'll be shocked if he's making less next year.

3 down nation reported 550 I thought

Jesse

Quote from: peg_city on May 26, 2025, 08:11:36 PM3 down nation reported 550 I thought

I think they were just reporting the average of his existing contract, unless they put out something new.
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blueandgoldguy

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 26, 2025, 05:52:24 AMGarbage time is a heck of a drug for passing yardage.  HAM was in GT more often than not.


You are wrong there.  In some of those games that was the case, not so in many other games.

Blueforlife

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on May 26, 2025, 11:28:25 PMYou are wrong there.  In some of those games that was the case, not so in many other games.
Hammy more often than not were behind and slinging desperate.

blueandgoldguy

Quote from: Blueforlife on May 26, 2025, 11:29:41 PMHammy more often than not were behind and slinging desperate.

Being "behind" with lots of time left on the clock does not mean he compiled garbage time stats.  What do you mean by behind?  7 points?  10 points? 14 points?  21 points?  The Bombers were behind in some games last year and came back to win.  Does that mean Zach compiled garbage time stats?

blueandgoldguy

I forgot to mention that Zach has only thrown Tds in one of his last 5 Grey Cup games with the Bombers. :o

Does that look like someone that deserves the same salary as previous seasons?


Jesse

Quote from: Blueforlife on May 26, 2025, 11:29:41 PMHammy more often than not were behind and slinging desperate.
Quote from: blueandgoldguy on May 26, 2025, 11:34:17 PMBeing "behind" with lots of time left on the clock does not mean he compiled garbage time stats.  What do you mean by behind?  7 points?  10 points? 14 points?  21 points?  The Bombers were behind in some games last year and came back to win.  Does that mean Zach compiled garbage time stats?

Meaning that the team had to abandon the run game and throw more often than not. To accumulate the stats that he did, Bo through 120 more passes than the next highest QB. It was like he played 5 more games than anyone else.

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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: blueandgoldguy on May 26, 2025, 11:36:26 PMI forgot to mention that Zach has only thrown Tds in one of his last 5 Grey Cup games with the Bombers. :o

Does that look like someone that deserves the same salary as previous seasons?


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Blueforlife

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Quote from: blueandgoldguy on May 26, 2025, 11:34:17 PMBeing "behind" with lots of time left on the clock does not mean he compiled garbage time stats.  What do you mean by behind?  7 points?  10 points? 14 points?  21 points?  The Bombers were behind in some games last year and came back to win.  Does that mean Zach compiled garbage time stats?
Quote from: blueandgoldguy on May 26, 2025, 11:36:26 PMI forgot to mention that Zach has only thrown Tds in one of his last 5 Grey Cup games with the Bombers. :o

Does that look like someone that deserves the same salary as previous seasons?


Your intial points / posts in this argument were off base imo and now you are really stretching.  You continue to dig a deeper hole.  Perhaps move on.  You don't like Zach's salary and recent performances in the big show, we get that.  The comparison to BLM is a weak one imo.

Zach is one our primary reasons for success and our Grey Cup wins and apperances.  He deserves the coin he got and will get.

dd

True, ZC8 has only thrown 1 TD in his last 5 Grey Cup appearances, but he is the only Qb to make 5 straight Grey Cups. And without him, we don't go to any Grey Cups, period.

As for BLM stats, pullleeese, most games were long over by the time his 'passing' game kicked in, with the other team just playing not to get any injuries. And didn't he get benched last year as well??

TecnoGenius

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Quote from: Jesse on May 27, 2025, 12:07:35 AMMeaning that the team had to abandon the run game and throw more often than not. To accumulate the stats that he did, Bo through 120 more passes than the next highest QB. It was like he played 5 more games than anyone else.

I say garbage time starts around mid-3rd Q, when you are down by 2+ scores, and are clearly having trouble moving the ball with your normal plan.  And garbage time games are almost always losses, or miracle last-minute wins.

Yes, it usually means pass-mostly.  It also usually means much deeper average attempt, and lots of bombs.  It just so happens that is BLM's wheelhouse.

I will grant that BLM looked much better in '24 compared to the previous years.  And he won more games as a result.  He's had a mini-resurgence and should do middle-of-the-pack in wins this season.

But he's not Zach.  Zach has wiped the floor with him head-to-head every season since '19.

I'm watching the TOR@HAM PS1 game and BLM is doing what he always seems to do: overthrowing and underthrowing.  He always has a hard time dialing in, sometimes never does.  Something is wrong with his eyesight or the little computer in his brain that calculates passing distance to a moving REC.  If he could fix that he would still be 2018 BLM.  His arm is still good for an easy 50Y flick.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pete on May 26, 2025, 03:30:39 PMMaybe but players over 35 except for bombers seem to take significant pay cuts

No.  Players who have started losing all the time take pay cuts.  BLM.  Masoli.  Evans.

Players who keep winning keep their salary.  When R.Ray got old and moved over to TOR, did he take a big cut?  Burris?
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