Ready for a Miracle??

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 19, 2025, 10:11:44 PMleading the charge by ripping off the Rider player's helmet in the Banjo Bowl brawl a few years later,

He actually threw a punch clear as day and it was a miracle he didn't get ejected.  I think the refs/command were biased because they didn't want to kick out the #1 best and most popular player from the most important home game.

It's like when they didn't kick VAJ out of the game that time he swung Biggie's helmet at Biggie's face.  Should have been instant ejection.

Rank has its privileges, apparently.
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theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on March 21, 2025, 01:06:36 AMAH33 was the perennial pre-game pep talk guy.  You don't remember the few ones we got to see on camera?  The "Who's got my back" ones.

He was literally the team leader and heart and soul of the team.

He was always leading on the sidelines too.  There were stories that came out about the '19 GC run and the WSF where they were starting to look like they weren't going to win, going into the locker room at half time.  It was AH33 that led the way convincing everyone they weren't going to have a season end in CGY again like they did in '18.

AH was way more than an on-field inspiration.  And we haven't seen anything like that since.

And this isn't a dis on Brady.  This role doesn't have to go to the RB.  It can be anyone.  No one has stood up to the plate in the way AH used to.  Yet.

That's why I get excited when I see a guy like DL Adams on the field pre- and in-game showing signs of that hype and attitude.  You never know who will take over that role.



Not disputing AH33's Rah Rahs, but morale is more than just hyping up going onto the field.

Morale is about leading with character.  I think of a morale guy more of the Thomas's and Wolitarski's.  Guys that are big brothers, guys that you'd call to help you move.  Or Jefferson...

Yes, AH33 led with intensity, but I'm not sure how many of the team would invite him over for beers and BBQ...
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on March 21, 2025, 03:37:55 AMNot disputing AH33's Rah Rahs, but morale is more than just hyping up going onto the field.

Morale is about leading with character.  I think of a morale guy more of the Thomas's and Wolitarski's.  Guys that are big brothers, guys that you'd call to help you move.  Or Jefferson...

Yes, AH33 led with intensity, but I'm not sure how many of the team would invite him over for beers and BBQ...

Harris bonded with and hung out with his O-line, he was the only non-member allowed to attend their BBQ's.

theaardvark

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 21, 2025, 02:27:58 PMHarris bonded with and hung out with his O-line, he was the only non-member allowed to attend their BBQ's.

I would expect that.  My point is that a team is 50+ players, not 9...
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J5V

Quote from: theaardvark on March 21, 2025, 02:39:25 PMI would expect that.  My point is that a team is 50+ players, not 9...
I think you're missing the point. All you have to do is listen to his "You got my back?" speech in the locker room before the 2019 Grey Cup to know the whole team galvanised at that moment and went out and absolutely kicked the crap out of a very, very good Ticat team. AH33 led by example and brought some intangibles to the Bombers that are hard, but not impossible,to replace.
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theaardvark

Quote from: J5V on March 21, 2025, 03:30:06 PMI think you're missing the point. All you have to do is listen to his "You got my back?" speech in the locker room before the 2019 Grey Cup to know the whole team galvanised at that moment and went out and absolutely kicked the crap out of a very, very good Ticat team. AH33 led by example and brought some intangibles to the Bombers that are hard, but not impossible,to replace.

I got the point, I'm just debating the difference between morale and inspiration.  Morale is a brotherhood kind of team building, whereas inspiration is more a rah rah buildup in the moment. 

I do not dispute AH33 was inspirational.  Pre game speeches, sideline hyping, he was a rah rah guy.  I just don't see him as the typical morale booster type. 
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blue_gold_84

Andrew Harris led by example during his time as member of this team.

Brady Oliveira leads by example as a current member of this team.

Their methods differ. It's that simple.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on March 21, 2025, 03:37:55 AMMorale is about leading with character.  I think of a morale guy more of the Thomas's and Wolitarski's.  Guys that are big brothers, guys that you'd call to help you move.  Or Jefferson...

Morale is literally the guy that keeps spirits up when you're losing or when you're down.  It's the thing that keeps you going and lifts your spirits when you feel defeated.

Morale, IMHO, is up to 30% of a CFL win.  If you lose morale, and your opponent gains it, getting W is much harder.

AH33 was totally the pre-game pep guy, and the guy who would go to RECs and hoggies on the sidelines in-game and at halftime and tell them to shape up and get the W.

That's the "morale guy".
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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on March 21, 2025, 10:12:31 PMMorale is literally the guy that keeps spirits up when you're losing or when you're down.  It's the thing that keeps you going and lifts your spirits when you feel defeated.

Morale, IMHO, is up to 30% of a CFL win.  If you lose morale, and your opponent gains it, getting W is much harder.

AH33 was totally the pre-game pep guy, and the guy who would go to RECs and hoggies on the sidelines in-game and at halftime and tell them to shape up and get the W.

That's the "morale guy".

A real leader gets out in front and leads his team to victory, there were very few games in AH's time with the team that they had to rally from behind.  They were motivated to win and slow starts that plagued them for a few years prior were no longer an issue, it was go from the drop of the puck. He didn't do this on his own, he helped create an attitude and other players like Bailey and Yoshi supported it, as did as O'Shea.

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Waffler

I submit the case for what would be miracle #3 in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhGdJefPDv0

Clinched us first place last season. Does this game have it's own name?
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J5V

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Quote from: Waffler on March 22, 2025, 05:22:50 PMI submit the case for what would be miracle #3 in this thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhGdJefPDv0

Clinched us first place last season. Does this game have it's own name?
As the announcer said, God was involved, so that definitely ranks as a miracle!
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

dd

Not sure what games some were watching, but Harris was the heart and soul and unquestionable leader of this team in his day. Plain and simple. Woli and Thomas, you must be joking!?!? Harris willed us to win a Grey Cup when he was MVP. A guy who talks the talk, has got to be able to walk the walk to gain credibility with their teammates. Woli was a #5 or #6 reciever, Thomas a rotational DL only because of his passport, neither of these guys could get up in front of the team and rally them into battle. It's the money guys who have to do that. Ray Lewis could do that, because he was the best at his position. So could Harris as he was the best at his position. That's why you don't get backup runningbacks or ST guys doing this role as they're just lucky to be on the team.