Bombers sign 4th overall draft pick of 2022, Enock Makonzo.

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markf

I watched some NFL games last season.

Saw quite a few receivers dropping balls that were right to them.

Happened in a playoff game. Would have been a touchdown. Dropped.

Dontaria is certainly good enough to make the NFL.

Not sure why CFL fans are so down on our players. Their linemen and Their top skill guys are much better... but the rest... not so sure.

Blue In BC

Quote from: markf on February 27, 2025, 11:10:57 PMI watched some NFL games last season.

Saw quite a few receivers dropping balls that were right to them.

Happened in a playoff game. Would have been a touchdown. Dropped.

Dontaria is certainly good enough to make the NFL.

Not sure why CFL fans are so down on our players. Their linemen and Their top skill guys are much better... but the rest... not so sure.

It's not us. It's the NFL's view on most CFL players. They get to look at 500+ new players each year in the draft that they might have been following for several seasons in college. The CFL players that go down may have visited other NFL camps in the past. They are slightly older than the new choices that seem to have higher possible upside.

Austin Mack should have made an NFL team but he didn't. That's just one recent example.

Each year about 10 CFL players get futures deals in the NFL. Nearly all will be back before the end of 2025.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pigskin on February 27, 2025, 05:00:22 PMInteresting stats on Wilson. Only 3 games over 100 yards, 11 games under 50 yards. 1026 yards, 300 of those are YAC. He also made a few sick catches. I can't see him making the NFL, but he might want to go on the NFL PR world tour for a season.

His hot/cold stats could be a direct function of how Buck/Zach operate.  There will often be a focus REC in the plan, and often a hot-hand is id'd and then targeted in-game.

In other words, WPG RECs are very hard to pick in fantasy because we are not consistent with who we prioritize.  This is why the stats look the way you describe.

If Kenny & Schoen & Mack can't make it in the NFL, then no way Pokey can.  They're just wasting everyone's time to the detriment of the CFL.  I don't even think Pokey gets much money for all his efforts down there right now?

But I guess you gotta take your shot.  Strev lasted long enough in the NFL to actually see reg season real-game AR snaps and get his pension!  If that is possible, I suppose Pokey's dream is possible.  However, QBs != RECs...

So few CFL RECs have actually stuck for any amount of time (3+ seasons) in the NFL in the last decade, and many were thrown away after 1-3 seasons and then pretty average (or blah) after returning.

Who are some who stuck?  Zylstra?  Is that it??
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dd

My sentiments exactly. Heck Mr Milton stegal couldn't make it so ya total waste of time. He ll be lucky to make it to TC and doubt he survives that.but  I guess guys have got to try it or live a life of regret?? I m thinking they're just wasting valuable playing time which slips away so quick why waste it in training camps

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on February 28, 2025, 02:16:04 AMMy sentiments exactly. Heck Mr Milton steal couldn't make it so ya total waste of time. He ll be lucky to make it to TC and doubt he survives that.but  I guess guys have got to try it or live a life of regret?? I m thinking they're just wasting valuable playing time which slips away so quick why waste it in training camps

Worse yet when they skip an entire year like Ford did. Hopefully Pokey quickly realizes he can have a long rewarding football career in the CFL if he sticks with it.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on February 28, 2025, 02:16:04 AMMy sentiments exactly. Heck Mr Milton steal couldn't make it so ya total waste of time. He ll be lucky to make it to TC and doubt he survives that.but  I guess guys have got to try it or live a life of regret??

It seems like RECs have it the worst in the NFL.  Other positions seem to fare a bit better?  It's like 95% of RECs that go try the NFL are back within 1-3 years.
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theaardvark

The sad thing about Rec's in the NFL is they need a QB to make them look good.  And the rooks get backups throwing to them as the evaluation of their skills.  Rec's that can make a bad QB look good get the nod, whereas skilled guys that can convert well thrown passes into tight coverage might never get a chance to show that talent when getting thrown to by #3 or #4 QB on the DC...

With so many bodies vying for so many roster spots, as a group it is easier to get lost in the shuffle.
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DM83

The guys that go back down to the NFL are a perfect example of "tweeners"
Most of the examples are players are not fast enuff. Or are too small. With DBs, they usually can't tackle.

I believe the guys are talented enough, but the lack of speed allows the DBs to close quicker.  Plus in Canada, with a larger field, some receivers look wide open, as DBs don't play aggressive enough.  Our Tre Ford is what an NFL player needs to make a roster. Or be a superstar in Canada. The guys that stay in Canada, are usually quicker than their opponents faced on a weekly basis.

Of course, bigger guys who can move will get a look.  So, our linemen are really rare men. Big and are quick enough to pass and run block.

Another reason the stars from Canada, don't stick in the NFL, is when you think about it, every year there are at least a thousand guys for each position at least, every year. So when our superstars go down and are beaten out of sticking on a roster, there are lots of guys who think they are all qualified to earn a roster spot.

The guys who come to Canada are usually oddly fast..

Throw Long Bannatyne

Did Tyrell Ford get any NFL tryouts this off-season?  Strange he wouldn't get any looks after his performance last year, he looked better than Dee Alford to me.

markf

I watched a few Falcons games last season, their secondary was quite bad, and there is a highlight of Alford that does not look very good.

Can not see that team sticking with what they had for a secondary next season.

Watched the games cause I enjoyed seeing Kirk Cousins failing.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 01, 2025, 01:43:18 AMDid Tyrell Ford get any NFL tryouts this off-season?  Strange he wouldn't get any looks after his performance last year, he looked better than Dee Alford to me.

What makes you say that?

Wasn't Ford at CB whilst Alford was HB?  CB might make Ford look better than he was.

To me Ford was more of an opportunist.  Alford was more like Nichols in that he sat back there an did his job.

Alford was instantly a superstar like week 1.  Ford took a few games to get up to speed, and was picked on a bit before that.  (Just going from memory.)

Alford had MOS et al saying that he had the best hips they'd ever seen, and it was said while they were still in TC!  No such hyper-specific plaudits for Ford.

I think Alford could stay in a hip pocket better than Ford, but Ford was maybe quicker on a break to cheat up for an INT.  With Ford a QB would think a guy was open and then, boom, Ford would be on the spot.

Both were very good, but I can see why Alford stuck in the NFL and Ford barely gets a look.  (Plus, isn't Ford smaller?  NFL loves size.)

And when's the last time a NAT DB made it down south?  Never?

Lastly: Alford helped win us a cup.  Ford helped us lose.  It's not all on 1 player, but it is part of the puzzle (however small)!
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