State of the roster

[theaardvark]

It's not a concern but it doesn't hurt depth if he's affordable. The position of safety is still open at the moment and there may be thought involving that at the moment.

There are a ton of Safety options already coming to camp, including recent Nat signings. 

We will have lots of DB's in camp to challenge for backup/PR spots.  No need to sign a retread. 

[Blue In BC]

There are a ton of Safety options already coming to camp, including recent Nat signings. 

We will have lots of DB's in camp to challenge for backup/PR spots.  No need to sign a retread. 

Experience over the unknown is the difference.  Sure we may have a current rookie or two that might turn out well. We didn't really have that in 2024. We aren't even sure if we'll move to a Canadian or an import at safety.

For that matter, it's not 100% certain we don't re-sign Alexander.

There are lots of rookie receivers coming to TC. It doesn't mean we wouldn't prefer G. Lewis ( SMS aside ).

Dolegala, Streveler and Patterson are all re-treads at QB. Cobb, Mitchell and White are all re-treads by your definition.

So what players that might be available would be a cost effective addition? Is a 4th year DL not a re-tread but a 4th year DB is a retread?

DB might be one of the easier positions to find and fill. That said, they are generally less expensive than many other positions.

[Blue In BC]

I don't think they bring Alexander back.  He is still capable, but so might a first or second year Canadian.

I agree that it doesn't appear that Alexander is returning. Ditto for Noah Hallett.  Nick Hallett has fallen down the depth chart behind Kelly who might be the leading candidate at safety as far as Canadian DB's.

Others have suggested moving Kramdi. I don't know if that is a good idea but we only have 2 Canadian DB's on the roster at the moment.

There are lots of import DB's coming to TC and I suppose some will get a look at safety and as a DI.

Essentially we don't know what we have quite yet. I can imagine that Griffin who is already on the roster might get a look at safety, SAM and everywhere as depth in the secondary. He's experienced and played very well.

[theaardvark]

Experience over the unknown is the difference.  Sure we may have a current rookie or two that might turn out well. We didn't really have that in 2024. We aren't even sure if we'll move to a Canadian or an import at safety.

For that matter, it's not 100% certain we don't re-sign Alexander.

There are lots of rookie receivers coming to TC. It doesn't mean we wouldn't prefer G. Lewis ( SMS aside ).

Dolegala, Streveler and Patterson are all re-treads at QB. Cobb, Mitchell and White are all re-treads by your definition.

So what players that might be available would be a cost effective addition? Is a 4th year DL not a re-tread but a 4th year DB is a retread?

DB might be one of the easier positions to find and fill. That said, they are generally less expensive than many other positions.

Well, Bonds was a rookie last year, worked out well.

FS: We just signed Haggarty, we have Griffin and Kelly, also Toles and Rogers who are larger DB's coming to camp, we have lots of LB's, so Kramdi could move to FS. 

Retreads are different than proven player signings.  Vaughters, White, Mitchell are not retreads.  Cobb, Haggerty are Nats trying to prove their worth, and potential backups.  Experience is one thing, proven competence is quite another.

There will be unsigned players that get TC invites and a chance to prove they deserve another look for sure.  Considering our current depth, I think there is more chance for a scouted rookie to land a starting or backup role in our secondary than player that their current team has passed on.

[Blue In BC]

Well, Bonds was a rookie last year, worked out well.

FS: We just signed Haggarty, we have Griffin and Kelly, also Toles and Rogers who are larger DB's coming to camp, we have lots of LB's, so Kramdi could move to FS. 

Retreads are different than proven player signings.  Vaughters, White, Mitchell are not retreads.  Cobb, Haggerty are Nats trying to prove their worth, and potential backups.  Experience is one thing, proven competence is quite another.

There will be unsigned players that get TC invites and a chance to prove they deserve another look for sure.  Considering our current depth, I think there is more chance for a scouted rookie to land a starting or backup role in our secondary than player that their current team has passed on.

Depends on where you want to draw a line on re-tread versus experience, versus potential.

I'm not proposing we sign a veteran DB but there are some very talented DB's available with both experience and very good play. I won't be alarmed if we do or don't sign one but I'm not against it either.

[Pete]

The only decent dbs that are left are Purifoy and Ciante Evans.
The main questions I have with current toster are
1 we've lost 5 cdns, Dobson,Ford,Woli,Feltmate and Augustine. Who are we adding? By most accounts the draft is weaker be lucky to get 2 on the starting roster.(We did sign Haggarty who has mainly been on st)
2 Safety position is a question, Kelly may or may not be ready, I'd like to see Griffin but what are options
3 Again this year we  are thin at DE. We need a few more options

[Blueforlife]

The only decent dbs that are left are Purifoy and Ciante Evans.
The main questions I have with current toster are
1 we've lost 5 cdns, Dobson,Ford,Woli,Feltmate and Augustine. Who are we adding? By most accounts the draft is weaker be lucky to get 2 on the starting roster.(We did sign Haggarty who has mainly been on st)
2 Safety position is a question, Kelly may or may not be ready, I'd like to see Griffin but what are options
3 Again this year we  are thin at DE. We need a few more options

agree all

I am worried the most about our OL, heart of the club.  Next is improve the DL.  Third CDN depth and last find a stud on the back end (DB/safety).  We are close but missing a couple corner pieces and a few easy ones in the middle.  I have faith we will sign a few players to fill some holes, draft will help and we will have a few pleasant surprises at camp.  So excited for this season.  Even moved my winter holiday so make sure I am here for playoffs and GC, after missing that for many years straight!

[Blue In BC]

When did we lose Feltmate and Augustine?

IIRC Feltmate retired and Augustine hasn't been re-signed YET.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

IIRC Feltmate retired and Augustine hasn't been re-signed YET.

Right, free agency officially begins tomorrow at noon.

[ModAdmin]

Augustine signed for 2024.  Currently a free agent.
Feltmate was occasionally in the backfield, primarily as a blocker.
Lucky Whitehead was average as a kick returner (IMHO) and fumbled returns on a couple of occasions. I doubt he will be back.

[TecnoGenius]

Lucky Whitehead was average as a kick returner (IMHO) and fumbled returns on a couple of occasions. I doubt he will be back.

That's a generous way of saying what I'm thinking...     

[TecnoGenius]

Never thought of this before, but I guess it was Jarious Jackson that fuddled around between the 2 QB's last year and frittered away their momentum.

That's the main reason I was so meh on the Jarious thread!  He did bupkiss in EDM last year.  They stunk before, they stunk after.  They lucked into a couple of more wins then stunk again to miss the playoffs.

[Blue In BC]

That's the main reason I was so meh on the Jarious thread!  He did bupkiss in EDM last year.  They stunk before, they stunk after.  They lucked into a couple of more wins then stunk again to miss the playoffs.

Edmonton had the 2nd highest scoring offence. Only behind the Argos by 9 points. It's fair to point out the Elks were always in catch up mode and taking more risk on offence.

However they put points on the board. So I wouldn't say Jackson did nothing.

[Blueforlife]

I have nothing logical to say.
My concern is all as they say "pedigree"

The OC has nothing to warrant such a promotion.  My janitor is very hard working, but someone doesn't think he deserves the keys to run the place.

And the QB coach, isn't really climbing. The ladder to success.  He was head coach, now he is  only a QB coach. ****! I just can't get excited about that!

Comparing your janitor situation to our OC promotion shows a complete lack of respect imo.  Our QB coach has a ton of experience that will benefit us greatly imo.

[BLUEBOMBER]

I think receivers we will miss Wolitarsky and Lawler but they were so often injured, we are better off paying other younger receivers. Ontaria Wilson was a major find but American receivers are a dime a dozen so I am sure we can probably find someone to replace him soon enough. Our defence will lack the veteran presence of Bighill no doubt. Hope someone else steps up and takes his place on the team.