State of the roster

Started by Jesse, February 05, 2025, 01:44:23 AM

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Pigskin

Like to see us sign a vet DB, in the next couple of days.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Pigskin on February 09, 2025, 09:44:37 PMLike to see us sign a vet DB, in the next couple of days.

Like a backup?  Our DB starters are fully rostered...
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Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 09, 2025, 09:48:57 PMScratch the Cameron Dukes rumour, the Bombers have signed ex-Rider Shea Patterson.

https://3downnation.com/2025/02/09/winnipeg-blue-bombers-agree-to-terms-with-former-riders-qb-shea-patterson/

Well, let's just hope Zach plays all 18 and then re-signs for another year.
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dd

I m good with Patterson as our backup, he's as good as any backup in the league and didn't cost us a mint.

DM83

DBs are a dime a dozen. Why the concern?

Blue In BC

Quote from: DM83 on February 10, 2025, 04:21:20 AMDBs are a dime a dozen. Why the concern?

It's not a concern but it doesn't hurt depth if he's affordable. The position of safety is still open at the moment and there may be thought involving that at the moment.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 10, 2025, 03:16:31 PMIt's not a concern but it doesn't hurt depth if he's affordable. The position of safety is still open at the moment and there may be thought involving that at the moment.

There are a ton of Safety options already coming to camp, including recent Nat signings. 

We will have lots of DB's in camp to challenge for backup/PR spots.  No need to sign a retread. 
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on February 10, 2025, 04:44:41 PMThere are a ton of Safety options already coming to camp, including recent Nat signings. 

We will have lots of DB's in camp to challenge for backup/PR spots.  No need to sign a retread. 

Experience over the unknown is the difference.  Sure we may have a current rookie or two that might turn out well. We didn't really have that in 2024. We aren't even sure if we'll move to a Canadian or an import at safety.

For that matter, it's not 100% certain we don't re-sign Alexander.

There are lots of rookie receivers coming to TC. It doesn't mean we wouldn't prefer G. Lewis ( SMS aside ).

Dolegala, Streveler and Patterson are all re-treads at QB. Cobb, Mitchell and White are all re-treads by your definition.

So what players that might be available would be a cost effective addition? Is a 4th year DL not a re-tread but a 4th year DB is a retread?

DB might be one of the easier positions to find and fill. That said, they are generally less expensive than many other positions.
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DM83

I don't think they bring Alexander back.  He is still capable, but so might a first or second year Canadian.

Blue In BC

Quote from: DM83 on February 10, 2025, 05:28:18 PMI don't think they bring Alexander back.  He is still capable, but so might a first or second year Canadian.

I agree that it doesn't appear that Alexander is returning. Ditto for Noah Hallett.  Nick Hallett has fallen down the depth chart behind Kelly who might be the leading candidate at safety as far as Canadian DB's.

Others have suggested moving Kramdi. I don't know if that is a good idea but we only have 2 Canadian DB's on the roster at the moment.

There are lots of import DB's coming to TC and I suppose some will get a look at safety and as a DI.

Essentially we don't know what we have quite yet. I can imagine that Griffin who is already on the roster might get a look at safety, SAM and everywhere as depth in the secondary. He's experienced and played very well.

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DM83

 :) yup Halley would seem to be the guy pencilled in., or anyone if the two dozen DBs they are offering contracts to.

theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 10, 2025, 05:17:37 PMExperience over the unknown is the difference.  Sure we may have a current rookie or two that might turn out well. We didn't really have that in 2024. We aren't even sure if we'll move to a Canadian or an import at safety.

For that matter, it's not 100% certain we don't re-sign Alexander.

There are lots of rookie receivers coming to TC. It doesn't mean we wouldn't prefer G. Lewis ( SMS aside ).

Dolegala, Streveler and Patterson are all re-treads at QB. Cobb, Mitchell and White are all re-treads by your definition.

So what players that might be available would be a cost effective addition? Is a 4th year DL not a re-tread but a 4th year DB is a retread?

DB might be one of the easier positions to find and fill. That said, they are generally less expensive than many other positions.

Well, Bonds was a rookie last year, worked out well.

FS: We just signed Haggarty, we have Griffin and Kelly, also Toles and Rogers who are larger DB's coming to camp, we have lots of LB's, so Kramdi could move to FS. 

Retreads are different than proven player signings.  Vaughters, White, Mitchell are not retreads.  Cobb, Haggerty are Nats trying to prove their worth, and potential backups.  Experience is one thing, proven competence is quite another.

There will be unsigned players that get TC invites and a chance to prove they deserve another look for sure.  Considering our current depth, I think there is more chance for a scouted rookie to land a starting or backup role in our secondary than player that their current team has passed on.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on February 10, 2025, 05:53:04 PMWell, Bonds was a rookie last year, worked out well.

FS: We just signed Haggarty, we have Griffin and Kelly, also Toles and Rogers who are larger DB's coming to camp, we have lots of LB's, so Kramdi could move to FS. 

Retreads are different than proven player signings.  Vaughters, White, Mitchell are not retreads.  Cobb, Haggerty are Nats trying to prove their worth, and potential backups.  Experience is one thing, proven competence is quite another.

There will be unsigned players that get TC invites and a chance to prove they deserve another look for sure.  Considering our current depth, I think there is more chance for a scouted rookie to land a starting or backup role in our secondary than player that their current team has passed on.

Depends on where you want to draw a line on re-tread versus experience, versus potential.

I'm not proposing we sign a veteran DB but there are some very talented DB's available with both experience and very good play. I won't be alarmed if we do or don't sign one but I'm not against it either.
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Pete

The only decent dbs that are left are Purifoy and Ciante Evans.
The main questions I have with current toster are
1 we've lost 5 cdns, Dobson,Ford,Woli,Feltmate and Augustine. Who are we adding? By most accounts the draft is weaker be lucky to get 2 on the starting roster.(We did sign Haggarty who has mainly been on st)
2 Safety position is a question, Kelly may or may not be ready, I'd like to see Griffin but what are options
3 Again this year we  are thin at DE. We need a few more options