State of the roster

Started by Jesse, February 05, 2025, 01:44:23 AM

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DM83

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Mr. Bennett was awesome on paper. He needs to be converted to a LB. But I wonder about his agility and ability to read plays. What a great career in amateur ball.

Jesse

Quote from: DM83 on February 21, 2025, 11:47:29 AMlol!
Mr. Bennett was awesome on paper. He needs to be converted to a LB. But I wonder about his agility and ability to read plays. What a great career in amateur ball.

Great career playing against kids 5 years younger than he was.
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blue_or_die

Quote from: Jesse on February 21, 2025, 02:44:52 PMGreat career playing against kids 5 years younger than he was.

#Ride?

LXTSN

Quote from: Blue In BC on February 20, 2025, 01:22:44 PMBombers signed 3 import receivers with CFL experience. We also have Wheatfall competing for a spot on the AR and probably a dozen or more rookies for TC.

Barring injury, it's hard to know which of them won't fit on the AR roster ratio wise. We'll only have 3 imports starting and Schoen is going to be one if healthy. Just a guess but I think Sterns will be behind Mitchell, Schoen and White on the depth chart.

We'll already have Logan as a back up receiver so someone like Sterns won't be a DI used there and as a back up receiver.  We might elect to put one on the 1 game IR rather than see them leave due to an offer to sit on the PR.

Obviously we're hoping O. Wilson returns quickly as well or that we find the next one in TC.

 
I have a problem getting over attached to this type of player! It's a lot of fun to watch YAC yard heavy receivers.
Needless to say, it's a great problem to have. We have a lot of great talent and depth at the WR position.

Is it a hot take to say we are better on paper this year than last year?
OL - Randolph for Dobson, everyone else a little older. Slightly better.
RB - Logan for Augustine. Upgraded and more versitile
WR - Lawler out, White, Mitchell and Sterns in. Deeper for sure, arguably a better starting lineup.
QB - Same as last year most likely.

DL - Lawson back, lost Garbutt and Haba. Much worse... we NEED some pass rushing here. Worse.
LB - Full season of the Jones's should be better than the carousel of LB's last season. Better.
DB/S - Lost Ford but we are so deep at this position, I think we'll be okay. Worse.

Better offense and now we still have some money we can spend on a DE or a Canadian safety.

theaardvark

Quote from: LXTSN on February 21, 2025, 06:03:50 PMI have a problem getting over attached to this type of player! It's a lot of fun to watch YAC yard heavy receivers.
Needless to say, it's a great problem to have. We have a lot of great talent and depth at the WR position.

Is it a hot take to say we are better on paper this year than last year?
OL - Randolph for Dobson, everyone else a little older. Slightly better.
RB - Logan for Augustine. Upgraded and more versitile
WR - Lawler out, White, Mitchell and Sterns in. Deeper for sure, arguably a better starting lineup.
QB - Same as last year most likely.

DL - Lawson back, lost Garbutt and Haba. Much worse... we NEED some pass rushing here. Worse.

LB - Full season of the Jones's should be better than the carousel of LB's last season. Better.
DB/S - Lost Ford but we are so deep at this position, I think we'll be okay. Worse.

Better offense and now we still have some money we can spend on a DE or a Canadian safety.

We brought in Vaughters at DE already, and kept Woods and Adams.  Schmeckle, Lawson, Thomas should be a good rotation with a lot of NATs competing for DE depth.  And we might see some new bodies in camp...

I think our Dline is a definite upgrade, through the addition of a proven bookend for Willie, and the return of Lawson.
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LXTSN

Quote from: theaardvark on February 21, 2025, 07:46:28 PMWe brought in Vaughters at DE already, and kept Woods and Adams.  Schmeckle, Lawson, Thomas should be a good rotation with a lot of NATs competing for DE depth.  And we might see some new bodies in camp...

I think our Dline is a definite upgrade, through the addition of a proven bookend for Willie, and the return of Lawson.
Vaughters has experience but I wouldn't say that's a big name signing.
Much worse is an overstatement. I'll take a deep breath...

blue_gold_84

Quote from: LXTSN on February 21, 2025, 07:50:31 PMVaughters has experience...

Considerably so, which makes him an immediate upgrade. That should help Jefferson and the D-line immensely, IMO.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on February 21, 2025, 08:08:08 PMConsiderably so, which makes him an immediate upgrade. That should help Jefferson and the D-line immensely, IMO.

Depends on his health and durability, would like to see a few more rotational options at DE.  AC Leonard is still out there.

Jesse

Quote from: LXTSN on February 21, 2025, 06:03:50 PMIs it a hot take to say we are better on paper this year than last year?
OL - Randolph for Dobson, everyone else a little older. Slightly better.
RB - Logan for Augustine. Upgraded and more versitile
WR - Lawler out, White, Mitchell and Sterns in. Deeper for sure, arguably a better starting lineup.
QB - Same as last year most likely.

DL - Lawson back, lost Garbutt and Haba. Much worse... we NEED some pass rushing here. Worse.
LB - Full season of the Jones's should be better than the carousel of LB's last season. Better.
DB/S - Lost Ford but we are so deep at this position, I think we'll be okay. Worse.

Better offense and now we still have some money we can spend on a DE or a Canadian safety.

I really like what we've done. I've said this before, but our biggest problems last year were a lack of cohesion early on and counting on too many rookies, which led to more inconsistency.

At the start of last season, our OL had never played a game together, our vet receivers got injured early -who were replaced with a rotating cast of rookies, and Brady was out al training camp and didn't appear healthy until a month into the season.

Assuming health, our OL is mostly intact and none of the potential replacements for Dobson are rookies. All of our new receiving candidates have CFL experience. We have a new RB who could be so good for Zach if we incorporate some quick pass outlets instead of always searching for the long bomb.

I've been critical of the Bombers promoting Hogan, but if he can make use of Logan and Streveler in a way that Buck never did, we can be way more effective than last year.
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bwiser

Quote from: Jesse on February 05, 2025, 01:44:23 AMJust wanted to take a look at the position groups so far and see if we think we can see some improvements in some position groups, even though we've seen some big names leave.

Quarterback: Same

Zach's #1. We can all hope for a bounce back season, but hopefully last year is as bad as it gets. Streveler may or may not be back, but we didn't use him to great effect last year anyway, so this position hopefully only has upside from last year.

Runningback: Same

Brady will hopefully not miss TC and start the year off strong. There was also some bad TD luck that hopefully corrects itself. Logan would be a nice complement if we actually choose to make that a part of the gameplan (certainly wasn't a part of Buck's plan).

Receivers: Same?

I know Lawler seems like a loss, but his actual production wont be hard to replace (even if he puts it together and finally manages to play a full season for Hammy - we're comparing the roster to last year). Schoen hopefully gives us everything we wanted and we have Mitchell and White Jr to compete for the #2 while Demski is the vet in the room with Clercius bring a physical presence.

OL: Same/Downgrade?

We lose Dobson, but still have more consistency than we did going into last year with Lofton returning. Instead of depending on multiple rookies, we have guys entering their 2nd year who both have starts under their belt.

DL: Improved?

Willie is Willie. Vaughters should/might give us some extra push from the other side, or at least be more consistent. Lawson coming back hopefully gives us more than we had from the interior. And I'm really excited about year 2 of Adams and Woods.

LB: Same/Improved?

Full year of Tony Jones in the middle. Ayers coming into year 2. Jon Jones one of those guys ready to take a starter role. I think we have an intriguing array of pieces.

Secondary: Downgrade?

On paper, we lost Ford, so it feels like a downgrade. But we've also been here before, DB leaves for NFL or pay day with another team, we replace them with another DB and still lead the league in defensive categories.

I'm pretty comfortable trusting the brain trust on this one.
I am quite sure that the Bombers will find a few gems in training camp that we don't know now but will have an impact on the roster.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 21, 2025, 08:27:53 PMDepends on his health and durability, would like to see a few more rotational options at DE.  AC Leonard is still out there.

That can be said for any player.
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DM83

Sorry be wiser


Your post is erroneous
RB- Isn't Logan strictly a return guy, and an American?
qB.  No legit backup, plus Zach has a history of significant injuries every few years. We have been lucky.  However, what if?
Receivers? - Schoenberg had one good year, then has basically either been overweight from his NFL  sojourn, and then last  years injury.  All other guys brought in are middle of the road.
O line- since they are second year guys, they will be good?  If so, how come they have not annointed one of them as the projected left guard?

The Defence seems like they have made an effort to sign improved front seven players.
DBs? Why have they not announced who the safety might be? What's the secret about Alexander? He seemed OK.  No one else has signed him so maybe he is finished? Or the Bombers are signing a few guys and keeping them till a season ticket push starts?


Jesse

Quote from: DM83 on February 22, 2025, 05:17:47 PMSorry be wiser


Your post is erroneous
RB- Isn't Logan strictly a return guy, and an American?
qB.  No legit backup, plus Zach has a history of significant injuries every few years. We have been lucky.  However, what if?
Receivers? - Schoenberg had one good year, then has basically either been overweight from his NFL  sojourn, and then last  years injury.  All other guys brought in are middle of the road.
O line- since they are second year guys, they will be good?  If so, how come they have not annointed one of them as the projected left guard?

The Defence seems like they have made an effort to sign improved front seven players.
DBs? Why have they not announced who the safety might be? What's the secret about Alexander? He seemed OK.  No one else has signed him so maybe he is finished? Or the Bombers are signing a few guys and keeping them till a season ticket push starts?



This post reads like you don't even watch the Bombers.

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DM83

 :D lol

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Quote from: DM83 on February 22, 2025, 05:26:24 PM:D lol

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