Bombers add Jarious Jackson, promote Hogan to OC

Started by Jesse, February 04, 2025, 12:03:53 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

blueandgoldguy

At first glance, this seems like a terrible hire.  Given the teams massive struggles on offense most of the last season (and in the Grey Cup AGAIN),  giving the reins to an outside voice would have been preferable...a fresh perspective.  This hire seems like something that would lead to nothing more than an average offense for the 2025 season which may not be good enough to make it to the division finals let alone the Grey Cup.

I hope Jackson has a good amount of influence on the new OC's play-calling, assuming his previous work as OC is considered good of course.  I would have preferred Mike Miller from Toronto as the new OC.  Like I said, a fresh perspective from an experienced outsider.

Why on earth would Tait say this hire would not be a surprise?  I don't anyone expected Hogan.

theaardvark

Never looked at Mike Miller's resume, until now.  Man, he has a LOT of miles on him.  2 years as Arizona's OC (8-8, 5-11), coached in Europe, NFL and CFL.

Have to wonder why they passed on him, but there seems to be a lot of movement in his history and that is always disconcerting for a potential employer.

I used to joke that I'd been fired 14 times, which show's I'm no quitter...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

blue_or_die

Quote from: theaardvark on February 04, 2025, 07:25:14 PMMOS got the promotion to HC after 4 years as STC.

Buck 5 years as RB/QB coach before becoming OC.

Walters - 3 years as STC then got the nod to GM.

Younger got the DC spot with only 5 years as our DB coach.


They DID interview lots of candidates, and decided on Hogan as the best fit for the team going forward. 

Have to wonder about the Jackson hire, though.  Is it a "just in case" hire, or truly a filling of that position.  Did Jackson ask for that spot, knowing that he had missed the OC spot, just to be involved in this team?  Not hating it, just that we have some very veteran coaches in supporting roles. 


Not sure you're making great comparisons here. Hogan has been a nameless assistant for 3 years and in your comparisons, assistants have 5 years in that role and made a name for themselves during that time. I think you don't need to be a coordinator long before you can make the jump up to HC so that's apples and oranges. And in Walters' case, although he was STC he was an assistant GM and lead Canadian scouting very successfully for years.

You also say we "DID interview lots of candidates". You could be right about this, but do we know that? Legit question. I haven't been paying as close attention as normal so maybe I missed all this news about our extensive OC search.

Part of me wants to give this brass the benefit of the doubt given the success they've had, the other part is questioning it given the 3 cups in a row we lost. I just hope they know what they're doing with this one.
#Ride?

Sir Blue and Gold

Buck Pierce also played quarterback at a high level in the CFL prior to starting his coaching career. Hogan was a CIS quarterback who last played in 2006 and joined the Als in 2015 as a ticketing guy. Yes, he's been around the game but the resume is not very strong and that's putting it mildly.

I do think we sort of need to trust the organization as they are the only ones who can really evaluate the guy. I will say if it doesn't work it the move will be easy to criticize because on paper it's very hard to believe the best candidate for the job was a guy who outside of being our running backs coach was a CIS positional coach with a low profile and what seems like zero play calling experience in any of his role up to now.

Waffler

#34
I am wondering what the delay was? If Hogan was the pick this could have been announced Dec 5, two months ago. 

Wish I knew what the heck else was going on.
Buried in the essentially random digits of pi, you can find your eight-digit birthdate. (Is that a wink from God or just a lot of digits?) - David G. Myers
__________________________________________________
Everything seems stupid when it fails.  - Fyodor Dostoevsky

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on February 04, 2025, 07:58:58 PMI really think you are off base here.  Buck was promoted from within with little experience, and 3 seasons later, you're lamenting his loss?

The team interviewed many prospects and no doubt discussed many more.  No doubt that there are more qualified or more proven candidates, but do they fit with MOS, our team structure or $SMS? 

If he fails, have at it, rake the management team over the coals.  Until then, lets give the guy that helped BO20 be the dominant player he is a chance to prove himself.

Only OC prospect I heard them mention was Jordan Maksymic and he was eager to choose the sad sack Elks over the Bomber OC job, other than that nothing.  Meanwhile a game of musical chairs was happening across the CFL while other teams scrambled to acquire the best coaching prospects, the Bombers snoozed through the entire event. If Buck thought Hogan was the man, he likely would have taken him to BC with him instead of Kevin Bourgain.

theaardvark

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 04, 2025, 10:10:13 PMOnly OC prospect I heard them mention was Jordan Maksymic and he was eager to choose the sad sack Elks over the Bomber OC job, other than that nothing.  Meanwhile a game of musical chairs was happening across the CFL while other teams scrambled to acquire the best coaching prospects, the Bombers snoozed through the entire event. If Buck thought Hogan was the man, he likely would have taken him to BC with him instead of Kevin Bourgain.

They asked permission about Miller in TO, for sure, and they had to have talked to Jackson about the OC for him to be hired as QB coach.  I can't recall the other names, but they did a search, for sure, before handing Hogan the job.

Who knows why they left it so long, maybe it was a hard decision to choose someone as green as Hogan.  But they know him, and his work, and he's watched Buck do the X's and O's for a while.

Our management group seems to find the diamonds in the rough and polish them to the point that they get stolen.  Lets hope that is the case here, again.
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

dd

I just don't get why they didn't give the OC job to Jackson outright and have Hogan apprentice under him. Sorry, anyone associated with our offensive game planning the last 3 years gets a demerit in my books, especially last Grey Cup's fiasco. But sure, give the OC job to your Qb coach, who was obviously in on letting Zach continue to throw without the use of his right arm, seems totally logical to me, NOT!!!!

This one is a head scratcher and really, as long as Jackson has input into our game planning I don't care. He had very decent stats as OC in Edmonton despite having an inferior offense, his offense at least produced, it was his defense that stunk.

dd

Quote from: ModAdmin on February 04, 2025, 07:18:36 PMWinnipeg Blue Bombers name Jason Hogan Offensive Coordinator, Jarious Jackson Quarterbacks Coach


WINNIPEG, MB – February 4, 2025 –  The Winnipeg Blue Bombers today announce Jason Hogan has been named offensive coordinator with Jarious Jackson added to the staff as the Quarterbacks Coach.

 JASON HOGAN

The 2025 Canadian Football League season will be Hogan's fourth with the club following his previous three years as the team's running backs coach.
Over the past three seasons, Hogan has played an important role in Brady Oliveira's rise to stardom as the Winnipeg product has eclipsed the 1,000-yard rushing mark three times, captured consecutive rushing titles in 2023-24, was named the CFL's Most Outstanding Canadian in 2023 and 2024 and the league's Most Outstanding Player in 2024.
A product of Rosemere, Quebec, Hogan came to the Blue Bombers in 2022 after serving as the offensive coordinator, running backs, wide receiver and quarterbacks coach with the Université de Montréal Carabins.

Hogan spent two years with the Montreal Alouettes prior to his days with the Carabins, beginning as an offensive quality control coach and then serving as a defensive assistant and receivers coach. He also worked for the Alouettes as a youth football program coordinator and served as the offensive coordinator at École secondaire Curé-Antoine-Labelle Loups and at College André-Grasset. Hogan was also a member of the Université de Laval Rouge et Or's Vanier Cup championship team in 2006.

JARIOUS JACKSON
Jackson joins the Blue Bombers after spending the last three seasons with the Edmonton Elks as offensive coordinator and as interim coach after being promoted to the position last July following a management change.
The Elks were 7-6 with Jackson as head coach after beginning the season 0-5 before the change, and Edmonton finished first in points scored (27.6), first in rushing yards per game (131.4) and second in net offence per game (390.3).
Jackson began coaching in the CFL in 2013 with the B.C. Lions and has since worked with Edmonton (2014-15), Saskatchewan (2016-17), B.C. (2018-19), Toronto (2020-21) and then again with the Elks since 2022.

A two-year starting quarterback at the University of Notre Dame, Jackson set single season school records for yards passing, completions and attempts in 1999, his senior season, and was a seventh-round pick of the Denver Broncos in the 2000 NFL Draft.

He spent 13 years as pro with the Broncos (2000), Barcelona Dragons (2001), Broncos (2001-03), B.C. (2004-11) and Toronto (2012) and is a four-time Grey Cup champion - 2006, 2011 and 2012 as a player and 2015 as an assistant coach.
Great summary of coaching credentials of both Hogan and Jackson, but after reading it, it is dead obvious that Jackson should be our OC!! First in points scored per game—-boy could have used that in the grey cup, first in rushing yards despite us having BO and second in net offense per game, yep, give the OC position to the 3 yr Qb coach, who really hasn't done anything. Thank ****** we have Jackson on staff and he's willing to serve in a support position

theaardvark

Quote from: dd on February 04, 2025, 10:21:13 PMI just don't get why they didn't give the OC job to Jackson outright and have Hogan apprentice under him. Sorry, anyone associated with our offensive game planning the last 3 years gets a demerit in my books, especially last Grey Cup's fiasco. But sure, give the OC job to your Qb coach, who was obviously in on letting Zach continue to throw without the use of his right arm, seems totally logical to me, NOT!!!!

This one is a head scratcher and really, as long as Jackson has input into our game planning I don't care. He had very decent stats as OC in Edmonton despite having an inferior offense, his offense at least produced, it was his defense that stunk.

Hogan was the RB coach, you know, the guy who worked with Brady to become the best RB in the league.  Buck was the QB coach and OC that crapped the bed.  And now he's a Head Coach...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

VictorRomano

Quote from: dd on February 04, 2025, 10:41:33 PMGreat summary of coaching credentials of both Hogan and Jackson, but after reading it, it is dead obvious that Jackson should be our OC!! First in points scored per game—-boy could have used that in the grey cup, first in rushing yards despite us having BO and second in net offense per game, yep, give the OC position to the 3 yr Qb coach, who really hasn't done anything. Thank ****** we have Jackson on staff and he's willing to serve in a support position

I think this may be like the same situation last year with Younger/Hall - give the new guy a chance and a short leash, because there's a vet in the house if he can't get it done.

blue_or_die

Quote from: theaardvark on February 04, 2025, 10:16:34 PMThey asked permission about Miller in TO, for sure, and they had to have talked to Jackson about the OC for him to be hired as QB coach.  I can't recall the other names, but they did a search, for sure, before handing Hogan the job.

Who knows why they left it so long, maybe it was a hard decision to choose someone as green as Hogan.  But they know him, and his work, and he's watched Buck do the X's and O's for a while.

Our management group seems to find the diamonds in the rough and polish them to the point that they get stolen.  Lets hope that is the case here, again.

Again...are you sure?
#Ride?

dd

Quote from: theaardvark on February 04, 2025, 10:16:34 PMThey asked permission about Miller in TO, for sure, and they had to have talked to Jackson about the OC for him to be hired as QB coach.  I can't recall the other names, but they did a search, for sure, before handing Hogan the job.

Who knows why they left it so long, maybe it was a hard decision to choose someone as green as Hogan.  But they know him, and his work, and he's watched Buck do the X's and O's for a while.

Our management group seems to find the diamonds in the rough and polish them to the point that they get stolen.  Lets hope that is the case here, again.
It concerns me he's watched Buck do the X's and O's as I don't think Buck knows the difference between and X and an O!!

dd

Quote from: VictorRomano on February 04, 2025, 11:20:35 PMI think this may be like the same situation last year with Younger/Hall - give the new guy a chance and a short leash, because there's a vet in the house if he can't get it done.
I just don't get why unproven rookies get the nod over proven vets, it's actuslly an insult to Jackson really. He had the #1 offensive stats last year yet we give it to a rookie positional coach. Not a rational decision at all and this took months to unroll?!?

Throw Long Bannatyne

Maybe the Coaching Cap played a part in this decision, surely they would spend right to the limit among the coaches they employ. Depends how much they had to pay Younger to keep him on board without insulting Richie with a huge pay cut. Could be keeping Richie Hall on staff at a higher salary than most assistant DC's receive limit what they could offer Jackson?  Must be a fair step down from OC to QB coach, commensurate with hours put into the job.