Bombers add Jarious Jackson, promote Hogan to OC

[TBURGESS]

Nothing changes around here, same group that called for MOS and Hall's head years ago already panicking about our new OC.  Patience pays off.

Typical. Saying folks with viable concerns are panicking. Bring up MOS, who didn't get us to the playoffs for 2 years & didn't get us to the Grey Cup for 6 years. Is that OK for a new OC? Of course not. 

[theaardvark]

Typical. Saying folks with viable concerns are panicking. Bring up MOS, who didn't get us to the playoffs for 2 years & didn't get us to the Grey Cup for 6 years. Is that OK for a new OC? Of course not.

Its MOS job on the line, and Hogan sis not get promoted without MOS' full endorsement, after considering all other options, including Jackson.

Will Jackson be the OC by the end of the year?  Potentially.  And if Hogan can't handle the job, we have someone that can step in.  In the meantime, we have an experienced guy to handle the development in our QB room.  Someone focused on that one result, coaching up the replacement for Zach.

[Blueforlife]

Typical. Saying folks with viable concerns are panicking. Bring up MOS, who didn't get us to the playoffs for 2 years & didn't get us to the Grey Cup for 6 years. Is that OK for a new OC? Of course not.

There is a difference between bringing up concerns and not giving a guy even a chance to try.  Yes some have a strong vein of panic in their posts.  Seen that story before, got the t-shirt.

My track record speaks for itself.  I stay the course.  I got roasted 3 ways from Sunday for supporting MOS, Hall, our defensive core and management in the early days when we struggled a bit.  How did that work out? hmmmmmm, cups and an epic run.  If you are complaining about the success that group has brought us, I really have no words for you.  This stretch for the Bombers will go down as one of the best in it's history imo.  I rarely agree with what you post so maybe lets just leave it at that. 

The same group that called for MOS, Hall's and managements head is now doing the same thing even before the season starts.  Questioning a new OC before we even know what they are like.  Typical.  Patience paid off before and I really hope it will again.  I had good confidence in MOS, strong faith in Hall, never doubted our D for a second and my faith in our new OC and QB coach is moderate.  They will do better as the season goes on with some bumps along the way.  Maybe lets this new offensive coaching staff have a half season before we pull the plug.  Just an idea.  Have faith in the system, it knows what it's doing.  Peavy going out of business so maybe get the feed early LOL.

[dd]

I am not 'panicked' over the OC decision, just puzzled. Puzzled why a guy who played 4 years at Notre Dame, 4 years with the Denver Broncos, 11 years with the BC Lions, 1 yr with the Toronto Argos, won 4 Grey Cups, who has 11 years of coaching in the CFL, including last year as OC- and lead the league in scoring, rushing and points scored, has 1 year HC experience, was passed over for a guy who played 1 year at CIS level and didn't start any games, and has 3 yrs exp as a RB coach.

It simply doesn't add up to me, but that's ok, the calls been made and we'll see how it plays out, but can't help but think the guy who has 30 years experience playing and coaching at the pro level woulda done better. And spare me the patience BS. MOS has had to fire his OC, DC and ST coach in his first 3 years here, as his first go around was a disaster. Since then, he's had Richie Hall sheparding the D and Lapo laid out the O and Buck followed his crib notes, didn't bring anything new scheme wise and became totally predictable and under performed in the 5 Grey Cups we played in. Thank god our D played lights out and won us 2!!

I am hoping the green guy can lead our offense, I really do, as in a year where we are hosting the Grey Cup, after going to the last 5, expectations are pretty high, and if things go off the rails, I won't be the only one asking why the guy with 30 years experience and 4 GC rings got passed over. And the guy could have a ton of energy, and be a really really hard worker, but if you just don't know the various systems and schemes because you've never been exposed to them in the NFL and CFL, you are really at a disadvantage, because you just don't have the experience, nor the street credibility your QB coach has.

But again, I m not panicked, just puzzled by the huge gap in resumes. I have no doubt JJ will do all he can to help out from his QB coach position, but it won't be as efficient as if he was driving the bus,

[theaardvark]

he CFL is a prime place for examples of the "Promoted to your level of incompetence", especially in the Front Office $SMS era.

We see lots of coaches bumped up just to fail.  It happens every year.

But with the $SMS on Front Office contracts now, you have to take chances on coaches.

MOS is comfortable with Hogan, and Jackson agreed to the QB coach position, so I'm good with that.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I am not 'panicked' over the OC decision, just puzzled. Puzzled why a guy who played 4 years at Notre Dame, 4 years with the Denver Broncos, 11 years with the BC Lions, 1 yr with the Toronto Argos, won 4 Grey Cups, who has 11 years of coaching in the CFL, including last year as OC- and lead the league in scoring, rushing and points scored, has 1 year HC experience, was passed over for a guy who played 1 year at CIS level and didn't start any games, and has 3 yrs exp as a RB coach.

It simply doesn't add up to me, but that's ok, the calls been made and we'll see how it plays out, but can't help but think the guy who has 30 years experience playing and coaching at the pro level woulda done better. And spare me the patience BS. MOS has had to fire his OC, DC and ST coach in his first 3 years here, as his first go around was a disaster. Since then, he's had Richie Hall sheparding the D and Lapo laid out the O and Buck followed his crib notes, didn't bring anything new scheme wise and became totally predictable and under performed in the 5 Grey Cups we played in. Thank god our D played lights out and won us 2!!

I am hoping the green guy can lead our offense, I really do, as in a year where we are hosting the Grey Cup, after going to the last 5, expectations are pretty high, and if things go off the rails, I won't be the only one asking why the guy with 30 years experience and 4 GC rings got passed over. And the guy could have a ton of energy, and be a really really hard worker, but if you just don't know the various systems and schemes because you've never been exposed to them in the NFL and CFL, you are really at a disadvantage, because you just don't have the experience, nor the street credibility your QB coach has.

But again, I m not panicked, just puzzled by the huge gap in resumes. I have no doubt JJ will do all he can to help out from his QB coach position, but it won't be as efficient as if he was driving the bus,

I'm surprised how extensive Jackson's resume is, he strikes me as a low key individual that prefers the background to the limelight.  He might fair poorly in job interviews if he doesn't have the enthusiasm to generate enough rah-rah attitude employers naturally prefer.

[blue_or_die]

There is a difference between bringing up concerns and not giving a guy even a chance to try.  Yes some have a strong vein of panic in their posts.  Seen that story before, got the t-shirt.

My track record speaks for itself.  I stay the course.  I got roasted 3 ways from Sunday for supporting MOS, Hall, our defensive core and management in the early days when we struggled a bit.  How did that work out? hmmmmmm, cups and an epic run.  If you are complaining about the success that group has brought us, I really have no words for you.  This stretch for the Bombers will go down as one of the best in it's history imo.  I rarely agree with what you post so maybe lets just leave it at that. 

The same group that called for MOS, Hall's and managements head is now doing the same thing even before the season starts.  Questioning a new OC before we even know what they are like.  Typical.  Patience paid off before and I really hope it will again.  I had good confidence in MOS, strong faith in Hall, never doubted our D for a second and my faith in our new OC and QB coach is moderate.  They will do better as the season goes on with some bumps along the way.  Maybe lets this new offensive coaching staff have a half season before we pull the plug.  Just an idea.  Have faith in the system, it knows what it's doing.  Peavy going out of business so maybe get the feed early LOL.

This is a home grey cup year. We don't have half a season to play around. We just lost three Grey Cups in a row and you have the gall to *erk yourself off like you're some kind of prophet just because you say everything is always fine even when it might not be.

[dd]

he CFL is a prime place for examples of the "Promoted to your level of incompetence", especially in the Front Office $SMS era.

We see lots of coaches bumped up just to fail.  It happens every year.

But with the $SMS on Front Office contracts now, you have to take chances on coaches.

MOS is comfortable with Hogan, and Jackson agreed to the QB coach position, so I'm good with that.

Yep, we see lots of coaches get bumped up just to fail. I just saw one

[J5V]

Typical. Saying folks with viable concerns are panicking. Bring up MOS, who didn't get us to the playoffs for 2 years & didn't get us to the Grey Cup for 6 years. Is that OK for a new OC? Of course not.

Same thing last season, got off to a slow start and people were panicking big time. For all the experience over the years he's been with us Pierce was a very frustrating O.C. Coaches and players alike are saying all the right things about Hogan and I'd give him a long leash. I'm happy to have a fresh mind in the position. He might surprise us all.

[Jesse]

Same thing last season, got off to a slow start and people were panicking big time. For all the experience over the years he's been with us Pierce was a very frustrating O.C. Coaches and players alike are saying all the right things about Hogan and I'd give him a long leash. I'm happy to have a fresh mind in the position. He might surprise us all.

And in the Grey Cup, those things people panicked about came up big time and lost the game. Again.

[Blueforlife]

Same thing last season, got off to a slow start and people were panicking big time. For all the experience over the years he's been with us Pierce was a very frustrating O.C. Coaches and players alike are saying all the right things about Hogan and I'd give him a long leash. I'm happy to have a fresh mind in the position. He might surprise us all.

Agree all

And in the Grey Cup, those things people panicked about came up big time and lost the game. Again.

We lost because all three phases laid an egg and coaches let us down.  Had a terrible game after an epic run.

Legit concerns. Vs. rose colored glasses.
Anybody in their right mind would question any plan A. It's called responsible management. I am sure we have a Plan B. ....."don't we?  I mean clearly Zac is number one, and Wilson? Is # 2. No wait I meant Patterson is #2!  Oh ****!

No wait, on defense we. Don't have an American DT, because the guy wearing his hat crooked is so cool, we are going with a 3 man front, four linebackers. So, every team in the league copies Toronto from last year (3-0) and runs the ball down our throat

Ok, that plan A last year failed.  What was plan B?...more of plan A?
How about you? Ya think we did enough to be a contender to play in the Grey cup?
Are ya blown away from letting the best receiver and best cornerback walk and play for someone else.?   I don't like our roster. Who is gonna help Zac? Who is going to put pressure on the opponents QB?  I mean really.

We have good QB depth imo.  Willie and some of our new signings and returning faces will get sacks.  3 man front is a league wide trend which most teams used a lot.  Works for us well after a slow start.  Had a top defense last year.  Didn't work in the big show that well.  Can't retain all the talent due to SMS.  Yes big shoes to fill but we are slowly figuring it out.

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[dd]

The game is won and lost in the trenches. Win the battle get pressure on the Qb and you ll likely win the game. Conversely your O line wins the battle and gives your Qb tons of time to make plays and you likely win the game. I think our line play on both sides of the ball needs upgrading as we lacked pressure on opposing QBs and did not provide enough protection on our own Qb.

[Blueforlife]

3 man front worked most of the year brilliantly, he had a top D.
Failed in the big show.

[theaardvark]

Eagles dominated Chiefs with zero blitzes.  Properly designed and with enough talent, you can make any alignment work.