Bombers add Jarious Jackson, promote Hogan to OC

[TBURGESS]

If this was a 'hoping to make the playoffs' kinda year, then I'd be much more OK trying an untested guy. 

This is a GC in Winnipeg year with a team that's been there 5 years straight. We don't need to add this kind of risk. 

[dd]

Jackson's in a tough spot. He's getting paid to be a QB coach, which he will be no problem. But then he's 'expected' to have input and help our green OC, who will need it, yet he's being paid a position coaches salary, not an assistant OC salary, not an OC/HC salary, but a QB coach salary. That's totally unfair to him, as it is unfair to pay the previous RB coach an OC salary with zero experience in putting together game plans at the pro level.

I don't care what anyone says, this decision makes zero sense. Also this situation is not like the Younger situation. Younger played pro ball, played with Oshea, so Oshea knew his mindset and understanding of the game coming into that decision. Hogan has zero pro experience, zero OC experience.

I wonder what everyone would be saying if our safety blanket/Jackson wasn't on staff?!?!

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Jackson's in a tough spot. He's getting paid to be a QB coach, which he will be no problem. But then he's 'expected' to have input and help our green OC, who will need it, yet he's being paid a position coaches salary, not an assistant OC salary, not an OC/HC salary, but a QB coach salary. That's totally unfair to him, as it is unfair to pay the previous RB coach an OC salary with zero experience in putting together game plans at the pro level.


I wonder what everyone would be saying if our safety blanket/Jackson wasn't on staff?!?!

[Blueforlife]

Football is a team game on the field and off.  The coaches will gel and figure this out (with bumps along the way).  Not worried a bit.  Now rebuild the OL, find another stud DL and get me a vet DB and I'm happy.  Also need to improve our CDN depth.

Nah sayers might want to read this.

https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/02/05/oshea-pretty-quickly-with-jason-you-recognize-his-energy-you-see-that-hes-got-a-tireless-work-ethic/

[TecnoGenius]

memory is a fickle thing, when Lapo was here lots were complaining about his conservative offence. It may have been a product of who his personnel were, and I think he's grown since then. But I doubt the greycup outcomes would be different.(esp ly the argos d was that dominant)

Lapo would have given us a fighting chance.  Buck had zero wrinkles.  Zero new stuff.  Zero anything.  We had 2 in-season losses to TOR to study what they were doing.  Buck wasn't BOLD.

Lapo would have had misdirection and wrinkles galore.  And we all know he would have run the ball a heck of a lot more!!

Our D did enough to let us win that game had our O produced what it should.  Lapo doesn't guarantee we win that game, but it couldn't have hurt.

[TecnoGenius]

yet he's being paid a position coaches salary, not an assistant OC salary, not an OC/HC salary, but a QB coach salary. That's totally unfair to him

What's fair is what a person accepts.  Jarius happily accepted, therefore it's fair.  Who knows what other perks and future promises are on the table...

It's no less fair to Jarius than it was to demote Hall last year!

I wonder what everyone would be saying if our safety blanket/Jackson wasn't on staff?!?!

I'd be fine with that too.  Lapo is always just sitting there waiting biding his time on TSN.  These HC/OC/DCs do these stints on TSN then always come back into the game...

[TecnoGenius]

Ie. they (O'Shea) know this person, like him. He fits in.  They are sure  he can do the job. Are not worried about the learning curve. Maybe going from special teams to successful head  coach colours the view.

Mike Miller was thrown into the STC job last year and did exceptionally well.  You could argue he had zero experience with anything coaching related, and it didn't matter.

Maybe Mafia is really good at spotting latent talent and capability, eh?  They may see in Hogan "the right stuff".  I don't care if he never touched a football in his entire life, I only care about brains and creativity.  And people skills.  That's what we need at OC.

[TecnoGenius]

We're all obviously hoping that's not the case for this year given the circumstance, although it's impossible to just go to the Grey Cup every single year forever.

It is?  I don't know.  I'm kinda counting on them making the cup this year too.  And next... Keep up the excellence and wish disorder, discontinuity, and dysentery upon your opponents   

(That last one was a joke, for the humor-impaired.  Although you never know with that Regina taco joint!)

[dd]

Mike Miller was thrown into the STC job last year and did exceptionally well.  You could argue he had zero experience with anything coaching related, and it didn't matter.

Maybe Mafia is really good at spotting latent talent and capability, eh?  They may see in Hogan "the right stuff".  I don't care if he never touched a football in his entire life, I only care about brains and creativity.  And people skills.  That's what we need at OC.

Special teams is all about desire and heart. Kick and cover left, kick and cover right, pretty basic stuff.

They can say all they want about Hogan's energy and work ethic, it's his brain that I'm worried about. Does he know the in and outs of setting up an offensive game plan, mid game adjustments, etc. I don't think he does. Yes, he does have Jackson to lean on and he's going to need that to get up to speed, I 'm worried about the time to get up to speed, especially in a hosting Grey Cup year and the pressure that comes with that.

[GOLDMEMBER]

If this was a 'hoping to make the playoffs' kinda year, then I'd be much more OK trying an untested guy.

This is a GC in Winnipeg year with a team that's been there 5 years straight. We don't need to add this kind of risk.

Who would you suggest they get then?

[DM83]

Who's the OC from Toronto that kicked our *** in the Grey Cup and two league games?
Die OShea sign an extension or what's his contract status?

[dd]

Dinwiddie is the OC and HC of Toronto, and yes, he totally schooled us every time he played us. He has a very gifted offensive mind for the game. He gets it and adapts his game plan to his opponent, and can develop schemes and game plans for his #2 Qb that make him look like his #1 Qb.

I don't think we're going to get this with a rookie OC, it will take him time, likely seasons, to get to that level, whereas Jackson is there right now. I m hoping MOS knows what the heck he's doing bringing in a rookie on a Grey Cup hosting year, as expectations are going to be high.

[TecnoGenius]

They can say all they want about Hogan's energy and work ethic, it's his brain that I'm worried about. Does he know the in and outs of setting up an offensive game plan, mid game adjustments, etc.

Buck called to say "mid game what?".     

How many complaints on the forum over the last 3 seasons that Buck never adjusted squat at half time?  Ya, how can Hogan be any worse on that one point?

[TecnoGenius]

I don't think we're going to get this with a rookie OC, it will take him time, likely seasons, to get to that level

Buck got to "that level" in his first season as OC!  Why not Hogan?  Who knows, maybe Buck has been grooming Hogan for this job for a few seasons now, just like Lapo groomed Buck.

[BLUEBOMBER]

Not sure if it's a good idea to have Hogan as OC calling the plays. Seems like Jarius Jackson has had quite a successful few years as OC. Maybe have been better to have Jackson as OC.