Bombers add Jarious Jackson, promote Hogan to OC

Started by Jesse, February 04, 2025, 12:03:53 AM

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J5V

Quote from: dd on March 04, 2025, 12:40:52 AMThat's the embarassing part of the GC meltdown...every team needs to have a serviceable #2 Qb as it is just a matter of time before your starter gets injured. Look how many starters sat out last year due to injury...VAJ, Harris, Kelly, Fajardo, Brown, and BLM, MBT and Maier struggled and were pulled due to poor performance, so 8 of 9 starters missed playing time, and of course, our Qb gets hurt in the most important game and we had NOTHING to put on the field. It was totally embarassing.

I am hoping Jackson gets our backups up to speed so when pressed into duty, they are able to move the offense
Toronto's star QB breaks his leg yet they go on to beat us in the Grey Cup. That was hard to stomach. We had a backup but chose not to use him. We also had the league's best running back and chose not to use him either. Some strange decisions made during that time. That's what was most concerning to me.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: J5V on March 04, 2025, 01:05:28 AMToronto's star QB breaks his leg yet they go on to beat us in the Grey Cup. That was hard to stomach.

Ya, it still boggles the mind.  Seeing Kelly go down in EDF right before our game there were knowledgeable fans in both Blue/Gold and Green salivating at the prospect of a "sure thing" GC.  All they had to do was win the WDF and the cup was going to be handed to them.

I said pre-GC that Dinwiddie might use this as his redemption arc to get revenge on the football gods for thrusting him into his GC as a Bomber only to fail miserably.  It was his chance to get the monkey off his back and right all past wrongs.  And he did.

It would make a heck of a movie.

Let's spoil the epilogue by destroying TOR in the GC @PAS in '25!  I hope WFC is planning for that game already!  You aren't going to beat TOR in Nov just taking it "1 game at a time".
Never go full Rider!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on March 04, 2025, 12:40:52 AMThat's the embarassing part of the GC meltdown...every team needs to have a serviceable #2 Qb as it is just a matter of time before your starter gets injured. Look how many starters sat out last year due to injury...VAJ, Harris, Kelly, Fajardo, Brown, and BLM, MBT and Maier struggled and were pulled due to poor performance, so 8 of 9 starters missed playing time, and of course, our Qb gets hurt in the most important game and we had NOTHING to put on the field. It was totally embarassing.

I am hoping Jackson gets our backups up to speed so when pressed into duty, they are able to move the offense

That is specifically Jackson's job as QB coach but he will need the full cooperation of the OC and HC to give the backup QB regular and sufficient playing time.  It would be dumb for them to put all their eggs back in Zach's basket and carry on as if good luck is always going to be on their side.

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on March 04, 2025, 03:56:35 PMThat is specifically Jackson's job as QB coach but he will need the full cooperation of the OC and HC to give the backup QB regular and sufficient playing time.  It would be dumb for them to put all their eggs back in Zach's basket and carry on as if good luck is always going to be on their side.
Agree. I remember us beating BC last year 25-0 at home, yet we didn't put in our #2 Qb to finish the game out  the last 1 or 2 possessions. Commonly called garbage time, but that's the time we need to try out our #2 Qb's and let them go. Give them a script of some low risk plays and let them execute. We don't do that, and we better start, because rolling out your #2 Qb in the GC game with zero reps under his belt is inexcusable.

theaardvark

Quote from: dd on March 04, 2025, 05:56:18 PMAgree. I remember us beating BC last year 25-0 at home, yet we didn't put in our #2 Qb to finish the game out  the last 1 or 2 possessions. Commonly called garbage time, but that's the time we need to try out our #2 Qb's and let them go. Give them a script of some low risk plays and let them execute. We don't do that, and we better start, because rolling out your #2 Qb in the GC game with zero reps under his belt is inexcusable.

The Dinwiddie effect...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on March 04, 2025, 05:56:18 PMAgree. I remember us beating BC last year 25-0 at home, yet we didn't put in our #2 Qb to finish the game out  the last 1 or 2 possessions. Commonly called garbage time, but that's the time we need to try out our #2 Qb's and let them go. Give them a script of some low risk plays and let them execute. We don't do that, and we better start, because rolling out your #2 Qb in the GC game with zero reps under his belt is inexcusable.

I'd like to see the transition made to start the 2nd half, that way if it goes poorly Zach can come back in the 4th Q and still have time to save the day.

dd

Quote from: theaardvark on March 04, 2025, 07:26:16 PMThe Dinwiddie effect...
We got sooooo schooled last year in the Grey Cup, it wasn't even funny, and Buck was a former Qb too, but his game plan was a joke compared to Dinwiddie's. My theory is this...Dinwiddie was a backup Qb, so he knew first hand what plays were difficult to execute and which ones were fairly easy to execute. He didn't expect Arbuckle to be Kelly, he expected Arbuckle to be Arbuckle, but called a game where he could complete the called upon plays and played within his skill zone. I don't think Buck had this knowledge as he was a #1 Qb, so didn't struggle with the 'thinking' part of the game, he just went out and played his heart out. One played with his head, the other with his heart. If Pierce had been as smart as Dinwiddie, he wouldn't have taken all those concussions, he would have thrown it away or slide etc. All water under the bridge now, but we now have Jackson, who was a #1 Qb but primarily a backup, so I am thinking he's more cerebral when it comes to calling the game. I am hoping to heck that Hogan asks for his input and listens to him.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on March 04, 2025, 10:34:23 PMMy theory is this...Dinwiddie was a backup Qb, so he knew first hand what plays were difficult to execute and which ones were fairly easy to execute. He didn't expect Arbuckle to be Kelly, he expected Arbuckle to be Arbuckle, but called a game where he could complete the called upon plays and played within his skill zone. I don't think Buck had this knowledge as he was a #1 Qb, so didn't struggle with the 'thinking' part of the game, he just went out and played his heart out. One played with his head, the other with his heart.

That's a good theory.  Plus I think Dinwiddie thinks he has (had?) a lot to prove.  Maybe he'll get lazy now that he's done it and won 2, including an "unwinnable" 10.5-spread (against) GC.

Buck was destroyed in the last GC.  Maybe top-notch execution (like TOR's) might have given us a win (minus the finger cut).  Maybe.  But it shouldn't have even been close to begin with when you have Zach & Kenny and they have Arbuckle & Brissett.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing what kind of style & plan Hogan has since he never was a QB (right?).  As "the RB coach guy" we might even get something with more synergy with our strengths.
Never go full Rider!

J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on March 05, 2025, 05:44:09 AMThat's a good theory.  Plus I think Dinwiddie thinks he has (had?) a lot to prove.  Maybe he'll get lazy now that he's done it and won 2, including an "unwinnable" 10.5-spread (against) GC.

Buck was destroyed in the last GC.  Maybe top-notch execution (like TOR's) might have given us a win (minus the finger cut).  Maybe.  But it shouldn't have even been close to begin with when you have Zach & Kenny and they have Arbuckle & Brissett.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing what kind of style & plan Hogan has since he never was a QB (right?).  As "the RB coach guy" we might even get something with more synergy with our strengths.

Buck was not good last season, period. I'm actually relieved to know he's gone. I'm still angry about his refusal to employ Brady in the Grey Cup. I'm almost surprised Brady didn't demand a trade after that debacle.

I really hope this team is angry about their Grey Cup performance and channels that anger this season. This team needs to come out of the blocks with a chip on their shoulder and take no prisoners this season. Anything less will be a disappointment.
Go Bombers!