Bombers add Jarious Jackson, promote Hogan to OC

Started by Jesse, February 04, 2025, 12:03:53 AM

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 26, 2025, 12:16:11 AMAnd there's the best thing so far about Hogan as OC: we aren't suddenly going to be thrust into a pass-first/pass-mostly OC paradigm.  An ex-RB coach should make sure we keep our run-heavy character.

Good!

Guess what Bucks first coaching job was.
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should have a winning offence this year.. Buck was too conservative most of the time.

DM83

Huh! Anyone who thinks Buck was conservative does not have a clue.
He was no Lapo, but the creativity he copied from Lapo was outstanding.

theaardvark

Quote from: DM83 on February 26, 2025, 05:56:15 AMHuh! Anyone who thinks Buck was conservative does not have a clue.
He was no Lapo, but the creativity he copied from Lapo was outstanding.

Yeah, he was highly creative in the GC making a QB that can't grip the ball throw...

I'm not sure Buck knew the word "adjustment".  Too many times it seemed like he kept trying the same thing over and over, hoping it would eventually work.

 
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on February 26, 2025, 08:34:11 PMI'm not sure Buck knew the word "adjustment".  Too many times it seemed like he kept trying the same thing over and over, hoping it would eventually work.

Buck seemed to think "adjustment" meant merely doing what the D was forcing you to do.  i.e. They load the box and stuff the run -> don't run Brady in the GC.

I want an adjustment where when team B stops X, instead of going to the Y they want you to go to, you go to the unexpected Z.  We never did anything unexpected.  And when the D dictates your O plan, you're going to lose.

We were always reacting and never thinking 3 steps ahead.  We rarely had a real "plan B".  When our plan A worked, we were unstoppable (see WDF).  When our plan A failed, we stunk (see GC).
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 26, 2025, 10:13:37 PMBuck seemed to think "adjustment" meant merely doing what the D was forcing you to do.  i.e. They load the box and stuff the run -> don't run Brady in the GC.

I want an adjustment where when team B stops X, instead of going to the Y they want you to go to, you go to the unexpected Z.  We never did anything unexpected.  And when the D dictates your O plan, you're going to lose.

We were always reacting and never thinking 3 steps ahead.  We rarely had a real "plan B".  When our plan A worked, we were unstoppable (see WDF).  When our plan A failed, we stunk (see GC).

I'll can't forget the 2011 GC game when Buck was unable to get the ball into the endzone until the last 4 minutes of the game.  Probably the worst game I've ever watched, I'll never forgive him.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 26, 2025, 11:33:24 PMI'll can't forget the 2011 GC game when Buck was unable to get the ball into the endzone until the last 4 minutes of the game.  Probably the worst game I've ever watched, I'll never forgive him.

Wow... worse than '24??  That's hard to believe!  I'll have to go back and rewatch...
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TecnoGenius

The CJOB Bomber special from Feb 25 has a segment with Hogan around 8:35pm.

He elaborates a tiny bit on his KISS philosophy.  Highlights more on how it's about keeping it simple for the players so they aren't confused at the snap.  That's ok.  (Has this been a problem for us?)

He also says he wants more trickery/etc, and that gets the players excited.

So I guess the issue will be achieving seemingly mutually-exclusive goals.
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TecnoGenius

Also in the show: WPG lost 22% man-games to injury in '24.  '23 it was 7%.  So there's an actual number to the dire injury situation we saw last year.

I wonder if SSK's '21/'22 achilles/ACL debacle can beat 22%.  (It might!)
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DM83

Yes, techno good point. Poor Zac  could not throw with that damaged finger. He was a "gamer" as it is called. But those interceptions I bet was a result of it.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 27, 2025, 04:49:55 AMAlso in the show: WPG lost 22% man-games to injury in '24.  '23 it was 7%.  So there's an actual number to the dire injury situation we saw last year.

Absolutely crazy they still took the west in light of that.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on February 27, 2025, 04:47:16 AMThe CJOB Bomber special from Feb 25 has a segment with Hogan around 8:35pm.

He elaborates a tiny bit on his KISS philosophy.  Highlights more on how it's about keeping it simple for the players so they aren't confused at the snap.  That's ok.  (Has this been a problem for us?)

He also says he wants more trickery/etc, and that gets the players excited.

So I guess the issue will be achieving seemingly mutually-exclusive goals.


I think confusion with the playbook was an issue last season especially with the receivers but also with the O-line early on.

Evidence was in the slow start but also:

1.  Buck was on the sidelines for the first time instead of up in the box and he wasn't down there to communicate with Zach.

2.  Zach frustration with rookie receivers not being in the locations he wanted them to be.

3.  Pokey running simplified curl routes for much of the season, it wasn't until the playoffs that he started to run deeper routes.  This could have been due to a position change but not sure, I think he struggled with the waggle earlier on.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 27, 2025, 03:35:03 PM1.  Buck was on the sidelines for the first time instead of up in the box and he wasn't down there to communicate with Zach.

I wonder if this was Buck knowing he wanted to take a HC job in '24... Going down on the field gets him much more acclimated to the HC view/role than sitting up in the booth.

I always thought it was odd him coming down like that.  He was always a booth guy.  It would be like Hall suddenly calling from the sidelines!

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on February 27, 2025, 03:35:03 PM2.  Zach frustration with rookie receivers not being in the locations he wanted them to be.

Oh ya.  Those were painful to watch.  Wasn't there even some in the post-season.  Let's hope after the PS and maybe week 1 we don't see those again!
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bluebeard

Quote from: DM83 on February 27, 2025, 05:57:40 AMYes, techno good point. Poor Zac  could not throw with that damaged finger. He was a "gamer" as it is called. But those interceptions I bet was a result of it.

That, no doubt, is why we brought in back up QBs with some playing ability in the CFL.  If Zach gets injured we now can put in people that have played and not rely on rookies.

dd

That's the embarassing part of the GC meltdown...every team needs to have a serviceable #2 Qb as it is just a matter of time before your starter gets injured. Look how many starters sat out last year due to injury...VAJ, Harris, Kelly, Fajardo, Brown, and BLM, MBT and Maier struggled and were pulled due to poor performance, so 8 of 9 starters missed playing time, and of course, our Qb gets hurt in the most important game and we had NOTHING to put on the field. It was totally embarassing.

I am hoping Jackson gets our backups up to speed so when pressed into duty, they are able to move the offense