Bombers add Jarious Jackson, promote Hogan to OC

Started by Jesse, February 04, 2025, 12:03:53 AM

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Blueforlife

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Quote from: J5V on February 11, 2025, 10:39:49 PMSame thing last season, got off to a slow start and people were panicking big time. For all the experience over the years he's been with us Pierce was a very frustrating O.C. Coaches and players alike are saying all the right things about Hogan and I'd give him a long leash. I'm happy to have a fresh mind in the position. He might surprise us all.
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Quote from: Jesse on February 11, 2025, 11:13:58 PMAnd in the Grey Cup, those things people panicked about came up big time and lost the game. Again.
We lost because all three phases laid an egg and coaches let us down.  Had a terrible game after an epic run.
Quote from: DM83 on February 11, 2025, 01:35:37 AMLegit concerns. Vs. rose colored glasses.
Anybody in their right mind would question any plan A. It's called responsible management. I am sure we have a Plan B. ....."don't we?  I mean clearly Zac is number one, and Wilson? Is # 2. No wait I meant Patterson is #2!  Oh ****!

No wait, on defense we. Don't have an American DT, because the guy wearing his hat crooked is so cool, we are going with a 3 man front, four linebackers. So, every team in the league copies Toronto from last year (3-0) and runs the ball down our throat

Ok, that plan A last year failed.  What was plan B?...more of plan A?
How about you? Ya think we did enough to be a contender to play in the Grey cup?
Are ya blown away from letting the best receiver and best cornerback walk and play for someone else.?   I don't like our roster. Who is gonna help Zac? Who is going to put pressure on the opponents QB?  I mean really.
We have good QB depth imo.  Willie and some of our new signings and returning faces will get sacks.  3 man front is a league wide trend which most teams used a lot.  Works for us well after a slow start.  Had a top defense last year.  Didn't work in the big show that well.  Can't retain all the talent due to SMS.  Yes big shoes to fill but we are slowly figuring it out.

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DM83

 The Bombers are not stupid. As proven in the Grey Cup, a three man  d line is. 
The benefits are that you also bring another2-3 guys to rush the passer, fill potential run lanes, and pressure the QB.

The team defense featured that earlier in the season,
In the Championship game Younger was destroyed sitting back, giving a back up QB zero to worry about.
In contrast Toronto pressured Zac on every play. You saw the result. It is a recognized fact that when you put pressure on your opponent, errors increase.  Simple!

Passivity is great when you and your partner go out for dinner and share ideas. In football, it's a guaranteed loss. Simple. Don't believe me. Replay the game. How many times was Arbuckle even touched?

dd

The game is won and lost in the trenches. Win the battle get pressure on the Qb and you ll likely win the game. Conversely your O line wins the battle and gives your Qb tons of time to make plays and you likely win the game. I think our line play on both sides of the ball needs upgrading as we lacked pressure on opposing QBs and did not provide enough protection on our own Qb.

Blueforlife

3 man front worked most of the year brilliantly, he had a top D.
Failed in the big show.

theaardvark

Eagles dominated Chiefs with zero blitzes.  Properly designed and with enough talent, you can make any alignment work.
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Quote from: theaardvark on February 12, 2025, 04:04:51 PMEagles dominated Chiefs with zero blitzes.  Properly designed and with enough talent, you can make any alignment work.

Balance is the key, with the right personnel they can play either system.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: theaardvark on February 12, 2025, 04:04:51 PMEagles dominated Chiefs with zero blitzes.  Properly designed and with enough talent, you can make any alignment work.

Defensively, the Bombers fared pretty well until things started to unravel in the 4th quarter. They were probably gassed at that point.

The offensive performance was the major letdown in that game, IMO. That IP penalty from the first snap kinda set the tone for the rest of that forgettable game.
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J5V

You can almost believe you'd only play that bad on purpose. LOL!
Go Bombers!

dd

Quote from: theaardvark on February 12, 2025, 04:04:51 PMEagles dominated Chiefs with zero blitzes.  Properly designed and with enough talent, you can make any alignment work.
I couldn't believe the push and pressure the Eagles INTERIOR D line got on Mahommes. They weren't just space eaters, they were crazy fast and had a huge push on every snap. And that pressure made even Patrick Mahommes look brutal, as he played a brutal game, and to me, it was all on the pressure. The one pick he threw was behind his reciever, but heck, he was just about to get killed so that pressure lead to the pick. Rushing only 3, and a mediocre 3 , gives the Qb tons of time to make a play. Give anyone time, they'll make a play, look how incredible Arbuckle looked in the Grey Cup, and that was Arbuckle, not VAJ or BLM, it was Arbuckle!!!

DM83

On defense you have to be aggressive. And yup, it starts with a defensive front.  Instead of a front seven we had a front three.  Real smart. This def. Cord. Younger, should be re-assigned, and hire Bighill as the DC.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on February 10, 2025, 02:15:41 AMHe had 15 years experience at cfl level vs 3

And what did Lapo have?  Serious question.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: DM83 on February 11, 2025, 01:35:37 AMYa think we did enough to be a contender to play in the Grey cup?

100% we deserved to win the West, and thus be in the GC.  We squarely beat SSK most of the season and destroyed them in the WDF.  If it had been BC coming here, we would have destroyed them.

Now, if you want to argue were the 2 best teams in the GC?  Probably not: you'd have to eliminate the divisions to have seen a MTL/TOR GC.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: blue_or_die on February 11, 2025, 06:53:43 PMThis is a home grey cup year. We don't have half a season to play around. We just lost three Grey Cups in a row and you have the gall to *erk yourself off like you're some kind of prophet just because you say everything is always fine even when it might not be.

As J5V said... you meant like last year?  How many wins in the first 9 games?  None for 6 weeks?

However, I agree with the sentiment, and I would have preferred we go completely mental in FA.  We should be overspending like crazy.

This is our version of SSK in 2013.  No, I don't want to blow up the team's future (like they did), but I do want to win it at home in dominant fashion.  Either way we'll get revenge on someone (TOR or MTL).
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on February 12, 2025, 03:06:50 PMThe game is won and lost in the trenches. Win the battle get pressure on the Qb and you ll likely win the game. Conversely your O line wins the battle and gives your Qb tons of time to make plays and you likely win the game. I think our line play on both sides of the ball needs upgrading as we lacked pressure on opposing QBs and did not provide enough protection on our own Qb.

Not true.  I've rewatched the GC a couple of times and the OL protection of Zach was adequate.  He had time on most snaps.  Our OL massively outperformed in that game, and TOR's (who was better) did what everyone thought they would.

My point being: hoggies weren't the problem or the reason we lost (unless you want to include the run game).  Zach, all RECs and Buck were the main reason we lost.
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