Blue Bombers transactions - January 21, 2025

Started by ModAdmin, January 21, 2025, 03:45:33 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: BomberFan73 on January 24, 2025, 12:46:03 AMAlexander did not start with us at safety, wasn't he originally a HB?  I don't worry about an exact body size, but I think I like a bigger, hard hitting safety.  Our corners for the past while have been small.

Yes in his rookie season BA played HB alongside rookie Brian Walker at CB and they got burned a lot.  Walker was eventually cut and played with the Elks for a few seasons.

Throw Long Bannatyne

#16
Quote from: dd on January 24, 2025, 03:03:25 AMYa, defenseless player rules have made the crushing safety obsolete in the CFL, speed and knockdown passes is the order of the day.

That describes Holm perfectly but doubt they'll move him away from HB.  Haven't given up on Jake Kelly yet, seems like an athletic player we'll see if he's smart enough to handle Safety. It would be great ratio wise, with Ford's return in serious doubt.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 24, 2025, 04:06:17 PMThat describes Holm perfectly but doubt they'll move him away from HB.  Haven't given up on Jake Kelly yet, seems like an athletic player we'll see if he's smart enough to handle Safety. It would be great ratio wise, with Ford's return in serious doubt.

I think Dequoy has a couple of inches on Holm?  I think if you want the roving/speed FS you need as tall and lanky a guy as you can get.

And yes, I agree with SB&G, if your FS is going to be in the box stuffing holes and trying to run stop 235lb RBs, you don't want him to be featherweight Dequoy.  Switching to that style a FS would represent a big change on the standard WFC D scheme.

And also great note that if we're always dropping 9 then having a tougher BA-style FS is not much help.  For instance, I'm pretty sure it was BA that was beat on the zone Brissett TD in the GC.  A taller/faster FS may have been able to make a play as the QB was throwing.

However, with the change to Younger, maybe that will be something we look at.  I guess it depends on the personnel provided by KW.  I think the $$$ to Dequoy hints that the CFL future really is with that style of FS.
Never go full Rider!

Throw Long Bannatyne

#18
Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 27, 2025, 08:49:06 AMI think Dequoy has a couple of inches on Holm?  I think if you want the roving/speed FS you need as tall and lanky a guy as you can get.

And yes, I agree with SB&G, if your FS is going to be in the box stuffing holes and trying to run stop 235lb RBs, you don't want him to be featherweight Dequoy.  Switching to that style a FS would represent a big change on the standard WFC D scheme.

And also great note that if we're always dropping 9 then having a tougher BA-style FS is not much help.  For instance, I'm pretty sure it was BA that was beat on the zone Brissett TD in the GC.  A taller/faster FS may have been able to make a play as the QB was throwing.

However, with the change to Younger, maybe that will be something we look at.  I guess it depends on the personnel provided by KW.  I think the $$$ to Dequoy hints that the CFL future really is with that style of FS.


There's only one Dequoy and the Als have made him the highest paid Safety in the CFL at $156k. Holm can cover just as well with his great timing and leaping ability and he's become a much more efficient tackler than he was in his first season starting.  As for plugging holes up front, Younger's new look D has reduced that requirement significantly.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 27, 2025, 05:21:02 PMThere's only one Dequoy and the Als have made him the highest paid Safety in the CFL at $156k.

Ya, it's weird.  Maybe the USA isn't putting out that type FS?  Maybe we need to ignore the draft choices and go find U level track stars who can just run faster than everyone else to the ball?  Kinda like what some U coaches do when they see a soccer guy with a huge leg and say "hey you wanna kick?".
Never go full Rider!

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 28, 2025, 03:35:48 AMYa, it's weird.  Maybe the USA isn't putting out that type FS?  Maybe we need to ignore the draft choices and go find U level track stars who can just run faster than everyone else to the ball?  Kinda like what some U coaches do when they see a soccer guy with a huge leg and say "hey you wanna kick?".

Lol no.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 28, 2025, 03:35:48 AMYa, it's weird.  Maybe the USA isn't putting out that type FS?  Maybe we need to ignore the draft choices and go find U level track stars who can just run faster than everyone else to the ball?  Kinda like what some U coaches do when they see a soccer guy with a huge leg and say "hey you wanna kick?".

I think Taylor Loffler was the pre-cursor to Dequoy at safety, tall rangey Natl. who could cover reasonably well and really lower the boom. Probably not as mobile as Dequoy or as gifted but a lot more frightening for receivers to encounter midfield.

If it wasn't for 3 ACL surgeries that hampered him I think he could have had a HOF career.

theaardvark

Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

J5V

It's fun to discuss all the real and potential players moves for the Bombers but at the end of the day I'm happy to trust in the Bomber brain-trust that has taken us to four straight Grey Cup appearances and two Grey Cup victories. I see no reason for that not to continue.
Go Bombers!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on January 28, 2025, 05:15:58 PMDaquoy : 4.35 40
Loffler : 4.75 40

Two of Loffler's ACL surgeries occurred before he even arrived in the CFL, he was hobbled from the git go.

theaardvark

Quote from: J5V on January 28, 2025, 05:30:41 PMIt's fun to discuss all the real and potential players moves for the Bombers but at the end of the day I'm happy to trust in the Bomber brain-trust that has taken us to four straight Grey Cup appearances and two Grey Cup victories. I see no reason for that not to continue.

Ummm... 5 straight appearances...
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 28, 2025, 04:45:09 PMLol no.

Why not?  We don't know the Dequoy story and how he got into football...

I'm willing to bet he was super good at track or soccer or both.

His body type would be seen by a football coach and instantly placed at WR/SB.  It took some sort of inspiration for someone to say "FS/DB".  Name me another FS like that, in either league...
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on January 28, 2025, 06:31:28 PMUmmm... 5 straight appearances...

Strange, but during a post the other day I at first thought it was 4 too.  LOL.  Guess we all have one cup we want to forget.

I don't care what y'all say: the d d d d "D word" certainly applies.  Get to the 6th, and it's indisputable.  Plus, to see the green faces when they miss out yet again!  Priceless.
Never go full Rider!

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 29, 2025, 03:17:02 AMWhy not?  We don't know the Dequoy story and how he got into football...

I'm willing to bet he was super good at track or soccer or both.

His body type would be seen by a football coach and instantly placed at WR/SB.  It took some sort of inspiration for someone to say "FS/DB".  Name me another FS like that, in either league...


Are you really asking why we shouldn't just "ignore the draft choices and go find U level track stars who can just run faster than everyone else"?

Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on January 29, 2025, 03:17:02 AMHis body type would be seen by a football coach and instantly placed at WR/SB.  It took some sort of inspiration for someone to say "FS/DB".

Chris Jones was always converting somebody. With mixed results though.

Apparently Dequoy has been playing safety since the age of 5. I googled. surprised to learn he is already 30.
Buried in the essentially random digits of pi, you can find your eight-digit birthdate. (Is that a wink from God or just a lot of digits?) - David G. Myers
__________________________________________________
Everything seems stupid when it fails.  - Fyodor Dostoevsky