VERNON ADAMS JR. TRADED TO THE STAMPEDERS

Started by Ridermania, November 26, 2024, 05:33:30 PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Ridermania on November 26, 2024, 05:33:30 PMThe Lions are receiving second- and fourth-round picks in this year's draft from Calgary as well as the Stampeders' second-round pick in 2026. B.C. also sent their 2025 fourth-round pick and 2026 third-rounder to the Stampeders in the deal.

Uh, they traded a '25 4RDP for a '25 4RDP?  I guess the difference is a few picks up in the round?  Not sure I've ever seen that before.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 26, 2024, 06:01:58 PMReports out of Montreal is that Fajardo will be odd man out. Alexander will be their priority.

Cody back to SSK would be hilarious!  Even better he goes back and is the same as before!  Oh how I'd love to see the green heads explode.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pete on November 26, 2024, 08:05:35 PMSurprised they couldn't get a first round pick which seemed to be price for a starting qb of Adams caliber.
Calgary did well

Yes, that's the shocker.  BC had banked on getting a 1RDP for their surplus QB in order to offset the almost certain loss of 1RDP from being $350k over SMS.

In that regard this trade seems like a fail for BC, and a huge win for CGY.  I bet BC tried to get 1RDP and no one bit at the high cost.  VAJ is a known (flawed) quantity with high, but not limitless, value.
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TecnoGenius

It's perfect for CGY because now they have a win-games and get-to-playoffs caliber QB.  That will help tickets and show "improvement" in 2025, which is really all they have to do.  No one will expect them to get to the cup.

If they take 2 years to improve to hosting WSFs for making WDFs, they can then ditch ageing/flaky VAJ for someone else hot (and younger) in FA.

It's the best play for CGY at this moment.  Doing a Dru or Alexander style QB may have required patience and time, two things Dickenson The Shoulder-Looker doesn't have.
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Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 26, 2024, 11:43:35 PMYes, that's the shocker.  BC had banked on getting a 1RDP for their surplus QB in order to offset the almost certain loss of 1RDP from being $350k over SMS.

In that regard this trade seems like a fail for BC, and a huge win for CGY.  I bet BC tried to get 1RDP and no one bit at the high cost.  VAJ is a known (flawed) quantity with high, but not limitless, value.

VA is owed a bonus of $200k Jan. 1st, no teams in the East interested and only 2-3 in the West, Stamps probably the only team prepared to make BC a decent offer, so they took what they could get.

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I would be surprised Fajardo gets bounced out of Montreal given his history with Maas and the Grey Cup he won for them, but whatever, if he comes west, he could land in Edmonton, doubt Saskatchewan given how things ended for him there. I can see Maier going to Riderville to get a fresh start as #2 behind Harris. Wouldn't mind if he landed here as our #2, but thinking we're staying with Wilson and bringing someone else in to compete.

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 27, 2024, 01:08:47 PMSounds like Dickenson is pretty excited about this trade: https://www.tsn.ca/talent/cfl/salim-valji-dickenson-believes-adams-can-make-major-difference-for-stamps-1.2210593

Almost brings back the golly gee to old Dickie, don't know how well they'll rebound behind VA, they need to surround him with better players.  The Stamps seem to be victims of chronic underfunding, I wish someone could dig deep enough into their organization to expose the story. Edmonton retains some sense of pride in their organization, Calgary seems to have none of that.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 27, 2024, 05:46:24 PMAlmost brings back the golly gee to old Dickie, don't know how well they'll rebound behind VA, they need to surround him with better players.  The Stamps seem to be victims of chronic underfunding, I wish someone could dig deep enough into their organization to expose the story. Edmonton retains some sense of pride in their organization, Calgary seems to have none of that.

I'd put the blame squarely on ownership. Calgary Sports and Entertainment doesn't seem to care much about the Stampeders in any capacity despite the franchise's storied history.
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tlf

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 27, 2024, 06:16:52 PMI'd put the blame squarely on ownership. Calgary Sports and Entertainment doesn't seem to care much about the Stampeders in any capacity despite the franchise's storied history.

They host the Cup in 2 years, they better start caring.

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Quote from: tlf on November 28, 2024, 12:14:27 AMThey host the Cup in 2 years, they better start caring.

Who knows, maybe the owner wants to cash in cause he thinks it's his turn to do so. They'll either put effort into creating a good event or fall flat on their faces failing with all of Canada looking on.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: tlf on November 28, 2024, 12:14:27 AMThey host the Cup in 2 years, they better start caring.

They hosted in 2019, too. Nothing has changed save for the team itself regressing in the four seasons since.
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markf

I took a look at Stampeders owners.... oil billionaires.  How much control does John Huffnagel have?

Blue In BC

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 27, 2024, 06:16:52 PMI'd put the blame squarely on ownership. Calgary Sports and Entertainment doesn't seem to care much about the Stampeders in any capacity despite the franchise's storied history.

That shows that private ownership is not the band aid over community ownership some have suggested in the past.
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