Jake Dolegala

[Austin85]

Why wouldn't they use Dolegala instead of Wilson as Jake has thrown many passes and been starting some games. He has more experience than Wilson , this is a head scratcher....

[ModAdmin]

I'm sure they would say Wilson was more experienced with the offence but in hindsight.....

[tlf]

I'm sure they would say Wilson was more experienced with the offence but in hindsight.....

Well, who knows hey? Dolegala didn't throw a pass all year so could have gone either way.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I'm sure they would say Wilson was more experienced with the offence but in hindsight.....

Dolegala was brought in 2024-09-16, so Buck had 60 days to get him up to speed on the offence.  No excuse not to use him over Wilson.

[55StickCar]

My question would be why wasn't our MOP,MOC not given the ball on that drive!

[Blueforlife]

He was #3 on the depth chart.  Wilson has best arm.  Just needs time.

[dd]

Dolegala was brought in 2024-09-16, so Buck had 60 days to get him up to speed on the offence.  No excuse not to use him over Wilson.

You're 100% right. Another strike against our OC!! Brutal game planning isn't his strong suit either

[blue_gold_84]

I don't think Dolegala would've made a difference. The Argonauts' defense was dialed in.

[Austin85]

Doesn't matter what you  think or I think or anyone thinks but our coaches. He threw for 2600 yards in Saskatchewan. That isn't even close to Wilson who based on pre season was lucky to be on the team IMO.

[Blue In BC]

He was #3 on the depth chart.  Wilson has best arm.  Just needs time.

Lots of QB's with strong arms have failed. It's too early to know if he will succeed. Maybe posters that have been to some practices might have some insight.

The problem with developing the next QB is that they seldom get to play unless the starter is injured. Few will come off the bench and immediately show signs of developing. His football IQ and command of the offence can be assess to some degree in practice. Ability to make progress as well. In effect having shown progress and how will be his test in TC.  I like that he's athletic but we see lots of QB's like that don't survive.

I don't know if he signed a 2 year deal or 3 year deal. He should be at TC 2025 but even that is not guaranteed. There are going to be some QB movement during free agency. That might include the Bombers upgrading at the position.

Wilson might just need time but time is a luxury. He has a marginal advantage of a year under his belt. Surviving his 2nd season is a TBD.

[Blueforlife]

Lots of QB's with strong arms have failed. It's too early to know if he will succeed. Maybe posters that have been to some practices might have some insight.

The problem with developing the next QB is that they seldom get to play unless the starter is injured. Few will come off the bench and immediately show signs of developing. His football IQ and command of the offence can be assess to some degree in practice. Ability to make progress as well. In effect having shown progress and how will be his test in TC.  I like that he's athletic but we see lots of QB's like that don't survive.

I don't know if he signed a 2 year deal or 3 year deal. He should be at TC 2025 but even that is not guaranteed. There are going to be some QB movement during free agency. That might include the Bombers upgrading at the position.

Wilson might just need time but time is a luxury. He has a marginal advantage of a year under his belt. Surviving his 2nd season is a TBD.

Yup too early to tell but has the tools

[Waffler]

Dolegala did play this year, just not for us. In BC, 15 for 26, 158 yds.

I wanted to see him too in that situation. I wonder what he was here for? Wilson has no experience, the coach said go in and win the game kid? Dolegala at least knows what it feels like to play in and win a CFL game. The 2 times I saw him in practice he looked like he should be the #2 if we are going by readiness instead of loyalty.

[theaardvark]

Dolegala did play this year, just not for us. In BC, 15 for 26, 158 yds.

I wanted to see him too in that situation. I wonder what he was here for? Wilson has no experience, the coach said go in and win the game kid? Dolegala at least knows what it feels like to play in and win a CFL game. The 2 times I saw him in practice he looked like he should be the #2 if we are going by readiness instead of loyalty.

Not sure if you remember a guy named Dru Brown, who was subbed in for Collaros even though we had a much more experienced and veteran QB in Prukop, and Dru did great.  Kinda the way you run things... looking for that spark and ignition in the new guy rather than the safer play with the vet. At least that's the way the WFC seems to play it.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I don't think Dolegala would've made a difference. The Argonauts' defense was dialed in.

Wouldn't likely go 4 and 0, to his credit Dolegala beat a strong Bomber team in the '23 LDC.

[blue_gold_84]

Wouldn't likely go 4 and 0, to his credit Dolegala beat a strong Bomber team in the '23 LDC.

In overtime. Dolegala's stat line of 22 passes for 326 yards was not exactly a performance for the ages; he stunk a week later in the Banjo Bowl.

I still maintain putting him in instead of Wilson wouldn't have made a difference, and certainly not enough to change the result of GC111.

[Waffler]

Not sure if you remember a guy named Dru Brown, who was subbed in for Collaros even though we had a much more experienced and veteran QB in Prukop, and Dru did great.  Kinda the way you run things... looking for that spark and ignition in the new guy rather than the safer play with the vet. At least that's the way the WFC seems to play it.

I do remember Dru Brown's first appearance and he was terrible. That one was a meaningless game at the end of the year. All I am saying is that you got to play the vet in the championship game. It's what Toronto did. They could have played Dukes, they had won games with him, but the vet is the right call. He's going to play a cleaner game.

I do credit Wilson for making fast reads and not being afraid to put the ball up but his accuracy was just a bit off. He could have a future.

One thing this team does that Wally Buono did differently is that we do not give our QB's equal reps in practice. This is probably why Calgary was a QB factory for a time. We had Zach or bust.

[Blue In BC]

I do remember Dru Brown's first appearance and he was terrible. That one was a meaningless game at the end of the year. All I am saying is that you got to play the vet in the championship game. It's what Toronto did. They could have played Dukes, they had won games with him, but the vet is the right call. He's going to play a cleaner game.

I do credit Wilson for making fast reads and not being afraid to put the ball up but his accuracy was just a bit off. He could have a future.

One thing this team does that Wally Buono did differently is that we do not give our QB's equal reps in practice. This is probably why Calgary was a QB factory for a time. We had Zach or bust.

Wilson definitely has some tools. It's unfortunate that pre season is so short and most teams will give the # 1 QB half a game which we didn't do this year and it cost us.

He'll be a player we'll want more reports from TC as a 2nd year player.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I do remember Dru Brown's first appearance and he was terrible. That one was a meaningless game at the end of the year. All I am saying is that you got to play the vet in the championship game. It's what Toronto did. They could have played Dukes, they had won games with him, but the vet is the right call. He's going to play a cleaner game.

I do credit Wilson for making fast reads and not being afraid to put the ball up but his accuracy was just a bit off. He could have a future.

One thing this team does that Wally Buono did differently is that we do not give our QB's equal reps in practice. This is probably why Calgary was a QB factory for a time. We had Zach or bust.

That's been a sore spot with the Bombers forever, they've always neglected their backup QB's.  The only exception was Drew Brown, he somehow developed his skills through osmosis.

[dd]

There were games we could have put Wilson in to play--a 25-0 romp over BC and the whupping we gave Edmonton come to mind, that our #2 can get game reps, albeit in 'garbage'time but we chose to let him sit on the bench until the most important game of the year, then expect him to save us. Insane strategy!!

[blue_gold_84]

That's been a sore spot with the Bombers forever, they've always neglected their backup QB's.  The only exception was Drew Brown, he somehow developed his skills through osmosis.

I think Dru Brown was the best QB prospect uncovered by this organization in recent years. The rest haven't amounted to much besides being suitcase backups. Bit of a shame Sean McGuire opted out of football after 2021; he seemed to have strong potential.

[Blue In BC]

I think Dru Brown was the best QB prospect uncovered by this organization in recent years. The rest haven't amounted to much besides being suitcase backups. Bit of a shame Sean McGuire opted out of football after 2021; he seemed to have strong potential.

While I'm not a fan of MBT it's worth noting that he was brought to the CFL by the Bombers. He had bounced around on 5 or 6 NFL teams so came a bit more ready earlier.

[blue_gold_84]

While I'm not a fan of MBT it's worth noting that he was brought to the CFL by the Bombers. He had bounced around on 5 or 6 NFL teams so came a bit more ready earlier.

I always forget he was on the PR back in 2016. Thanks for the helpful reminder.

[Blue In BC]

Regardless of who ends up as our # 2 QB in 2025, I hope we can find him some meaningful game reps when possible. I'm not expecting Collaros to be the starter in 2026 although he might stay another year as the # 2 for a reduced contract.

That's not my favourite option since it's just a delay.That might work if Wilson shows a step forward in 2025 ( similar to Brown ) and looks to be the # 1 in 2026. There will still be growing pains as we saw with Brown in Ottawa, so having a vet as # 2 is not the worst idea.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Regardless of who ends up as our # 2 QB in 2025, I hope we can find him some meaningful game reps when possible. I'm not expecting Collaros to be the starter in 2026 although he might stay another year as the # 2 for a reduced contract.

That's not my favourite option since it's just a delay.That might work if Wilson shows a step forward in 2025 ( similar to Brown ) and looks to be the # 1 in 2026. There will still be growing pains as we saw with Brown in Ottawa, so having a vet as # 2 is not the worst idea.

For some reason, and this is totally my own completely uninformed opinion, I have no confidence in Wilson to be a starting QB. He made the team by default because Barriere was a trainwreck in camp and Grainer arrived too late. To his credit he ran a good short yardage but lots of guys can do that. I absolutely would not be locking him in to a spot next year and personally would feel better with Dolegala.

[theaardvark]

Dolegala is servicable, no doubt.  There is a reason, though, he has bounced around the league.  IF he was a legit prospect for a #1 spot, he would have stuck elsewhere. He was here are last option QB that has some CFL experience. 

Curious what happens to Bryan Scott next year.  Depending on what Pinball decides to do with Kelly (personally, I'd get rid of the distraction), if Arbuckle has earned a shot at the starting spot, do they continue wit Dukes?  Does Scott factor in? Scott is one of those intriguing options out there that has shown just enough to be interesting.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Dolegala is servicable, no doubt.  There is a reason, though, he has bounced around the league.  IF he was a legit prospect for a #1 spot, he would have stuck elsewhere. He was here are last option QB that has some CFL experience. 

Curious what happens to Bryan Scott next year.  Depending on what Pinball decides to do with Kelly(personally, I'd get rid of the distraction) , if Arbuckle has earned a shot at the starting spot, do they continue wit Dukes?  Does Scott factor in? Scott is one of those intriguing options out there that has shown just enough to be interesting.

There's about a 0% chance!

[Waffler]

I think people like Bryan Scott (age 29) because he is an unknown. The fact is that Dolegala beat him in the tryout here and from what I saw that was the correct decision. 

[theaardvark]

I think people like Bryan Scott (age 29) because he is an unknown. The fact is that Dolegala beat him in the tryout here and from what I saw that was the correct decision. 

I don't think Scott was competing with Dolegala as much as he was competing with Wilson...

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I don't think Scott was competing with Dolegala as much as he was competing with Wilson...

That makes about as much sense as you thinking Toronto is going to release Kelly and promote Arbuckle.

[theaardvark]

That makes about as much sense as you thinking Toronto is going to release Kelly and promote Arbuckle.

Dolegala replaced Streveler as a veteran with experience that could be used in an emergency, and do SY (which I was surprised Wilson took over completely).

Scott doesn't have the live reps / starts that Dolegala or Streveler has, but is a very interesting development option.

I don't think the WFC would have gone with Collaros/Wilson/Scott  but might have gone with Collaros/Scott/Dolegala had Scott knocked their socks off.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I always forget he was on the PR back in 2016. Thanks for the helpful reminder.

MBT spent precisely one month on the PR in Oct. 2016, I believe he would have been backing up Drew Willy at that time before Nichols was acquired. Again, failure to recognize potential in a QB as he'd already been through 10 NFL camps, many with the same teams, so he obviously had the physical and mental skills to eventually succeed. 

I hate to point fingers but Danny McManus has not helped identify or develop QB's in his tenure with the Bombers.

[blue_gold_84]

MBT spent precisely one month on the PR in Oct. 2016, I believe he would have been backing up Drew Willy at that time before Nichols was acquired. Again, failure to recognize potential in a QB as he'd already been through 10 NFL camps, many with the same teams, so he obviously had the physical and mental skills to eventually succeed. 

I hate to point fingers but Danny McManus has not helped identify or develop QB's in his tenure with the Bombers.

Nichols was acquired in 2015. He was already QB1 by the time Bethel-Thompson was put on the PR in late September 2016.

Willy had already been traded, too.

[Ridermania]

Kyle Walters just stated that Jake is under contract for 2025.

I'll send the link asap.

All 3 Grey Cup QB's back next year....what happens with Strev?

[tlf]

Kyle Walters just stated that Jake is under contract for 2025.

I'll send the link asap.

All 3 Grey Cup QB's back next year....what happens with Strev?

Can he coach? Sounds like Buck might be gone. 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Kyle Walters just stated that Jake is under contract for 2025.

I'll send the link asap.

All 3 Grey Cup QB's back next year....what happens with Strev?

Strev. won't be fully recovered until mid-season, by then I suspect they'll no longer require his services.

[dd]

Strev shouldn't even be on the Qb radar. Nice guy, just not a great Qb, can get you the short yardage runs but nothing more. I think we go fishing for someone else as our #2 next season, with Dolegala challenging for the position, but not a shoe in

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Strev shouldn't even be on the Qb radar. Nice guy, just not a great Qb, can get you the short yardage runs but nothing more. I think we go fishing for someone else as our #2 next season, with Dolegala challenging for the position, but not a shoe in

If Walters wants to attract a half decent vet. QB like MBT, Mazoli or Maier he needs to find a way to pay them at least $200k.  Shiltz could be a reasonablaly cheap alternative if Calgary doesn't want him.

[tlf]

If Walters wants to attract a half decent vet. like MBT, Mazoli or Maier he needs to find a way to pay them at least $200k, but I can't see Zach agreeing to a haircut.  Shiltz could be a reasonablaly cheap alternative if Calgary sets him free.

Please no.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Dolegala is both a developing QB and about as good Maier, Shiltz or Masoli probably. Masoli might be slightly better but he might also crumble into dust on any play.

[Cool Spot]

Strev. won't be fully recovered until mid-season, by then I suspect they'll no longer require his services.

Are we sure about that? He injured three (!) knee ligaments. One is bad enough to recover from, but three?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Dolegala is both a developing QB and about as good Maier, Shiltz or Masoli probably. Masoli might be slightly better but he might also crumble into dust on any play.

I'd put Dolegala near the bottom of the list of available QB's, he's not mobile and he's too tall to handle the short yardage role. I don't expect him to survive 2025 TC.

[Blue In BC]

Kyle Walters just stated that Jake is under contract for 2025.

I'll send the link asap.

All 3 Grey Cup QB's back next year....what happens with Strev?

I'm surprised he got a 2 year deal when he joined the team in 2024. That said, I don't see him as either the future # 2 or the short yardage specialist.

Also not expecting Streveler back either for the same reasons.

[dd]

We've got Dolegala, I wouldn't be bringing in any re-tread Qb like Davis, Evans, Schiltz, Maier, etc, as we know their upside, there isn't any, they are what they are. I'd be bringing in new blood like Wilson, and seeing what he's got and look to uncover the next Dru Brown.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

We've got Dolegala, I wouldn't be bringing in any re-tread Qb like Davis, Evans, Schiltz, Maier, etc, as we know their upside, there isn't any, they are what they are. I'd be bringing in new blood like Wilson, and seeing what he's got and look to uncover the next Dru Brown.

Dru Brown was not uncovered, he was allowed to develop.  Maybe they can do the same with Wilson, but if they do not have an adequate backup solution in place next season, there's no reason to believe the bad results witnessed a few weeks ago could not be repeated. I trust this regime learns from their mistakes.

[dd]

Were we ever told why Dolegala was not dressed for the GC and why we chose to go with Wilson as our #2 when he had no meaningful reps ??

[ichabod_crane]

We've got Dolegala, I wouldn't be bringing in any re-tread Qb like Davis, Evans, Schiltz, Maier, etc, as we know their upside, there isn't any, they are what they are. I'd be bringing in new blood like Wilson, and seeing what he's got and look to uncover the next Dru Brown.

Dolegala has an upside?! He looked useless to me when he was in Sask. Wilson may be the up and comer as we know he has wheels (not sure of the arm or accuracy), but not there quite yet. They need a solid backup it is obvious after this past season with Collaros being so hot and cold. Maier is probably the best fit for that OR MBT. Maier has a good arm and pretty accurate. The rest have shown nothing that I can see to fill in at least for a short term injury to Zach or to mix things up in a game. Maier has had little help in Calgary (only one good receiver in Beggleton-rest are nobodies), so I won't dump everything on him for their poor showing this season or last. Adams better hope Stamps improve their o-line AND RECEIVERS or he will be running for his life next season!

[markf]

Dolegala might be decent.... highlights...

https://youtu.be/PobbjEK4wy8?si=pFG2HTTnENhffLsa

[Waffler]

Dolegala throws a great ball. For whatever reason he has yet to put it all together over a string of games. I trust the coaches to know if he can ever do it.

Maier has gotten better, especially this past year, but consistency is still an issue. He'd be a really good #2 if you could get him.

Wilson is the biggest unknown. Bring him back to TC and see if he's taken the next step is all you can do but he is still gonna be the 3rd stringer/short yardage guy.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Were we ever told why Dolegala was not dressed for the GC and why we chose to go with Wilson as our #2 when he had no meaningful reps ??

I believe he was dressed for the game, he's the tallest player on the team, so somebody must have spotted him on the sidelines.  As for an explanation why they didn't use him, I think the closest O'Shea came was something like "we like Wilson and he's been here since TC so he knows the plays".

[Ridermania]

He was dressed and should have played when Zach was injured.

Much more passing experience then Wilson.

Wilson is a short yardage QB.

[VictorRomano]

If I'm being honest, I'd love Walters to go after Tommy Stevens who's a free agent out of Calgary right now as our SY QB option.  Dude is a load (6'5", 237lbs) and should be able to bulldoze his way over guys behind our Jumbo team.  He had a 4yd average in Calgary this year and rushed for 10 TDs on 60 carries (3rd highest all-time in the CFL behind Flutie and Hank Burris), and set a CFL record this year for most rushing TDs in a single game by a QB (4). 

My dream QB room in 2025 would be Zach in his last hurrah, Tre Ford as 1A waiting in the wings, Stevens as SY QB, and Wilson or developmental QB at #4.

[dd]

If I'm being honest, I'd love Walters to go after Tommy Stevens who's a free agent out of Calgary right now as our SY QB option.  Dude is a load (6'5", 237lbs) and should be able to bulldoze his way over guys behind our Jumbo team.

Given Calgary's Qb troubles this past off season, I thought he would have been given a shot at stepping into the main role, he's been there forever it seems, and ya, he is a big dude for sure. The guy they put in instead of Maier, Bonner, was hopeless.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Given Calgary's Qb troubles this past off season, I thought he would have been given a shot at stepping into the main role, he's been there forever it seems, and ya, he is a big dude for sure. The guy they put in instead of Maier, Bonner, was hopeless.

Depending what the Stamps do with former NFL quarterback P.J. Walker, Stevens may become available, I don't think he has any more upside than Strev. as a backup QB. Bonner had one game to show off his stuff, I wouldn't write him off just yet as he seems smart and has a good arm.

[TecnoGenius]

I think Dru Brown was the best QB prospect uncovered by this organization in recent years. The rest haven't amounted to much besides being suitcase backups. Bit of a shame Sean McGuire opted out of football after 2021; he seemed to have strong potential.

We gave McGuire a garbage season game and he pretty much stunk.  PS too.  That's why we let him walk.

He was a very good holder and SY QB though, and I was sad to see him go.  But it was clear his future as a starter was about as likely as Prukop's!

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

We gave McGuire a garbage season game and he pretty much stunk.  PS too.  That's why we let him walk.

He was a very good holder and SY QB though, and I was sad to see him go.  But it was clear his future as a starter was about as likely as Prukop's!

McGuire retired after the 2021 GC win.

[TecnoGenius]

McGuire retired after the 2021 GC win.

Right, because we (or someone) told him he'd never be starter material.  If he was the next Dru, he would still be playing.  Love the guy, but he was as much #1 material as Brohm.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Right, because we (or someone) told him he'd never be starter material.  If he was the next Dru, he would still be playing.  Love the guy, but he was as much #1 material as Brohm.

You word that as if it's the truth, which can be misleading for others when it's just your opinion.

Here's what I found from a 3 second Google search.

"Sean McGuire's currently exploring options outside of football to move on with his life, so that adds a twist. He showed some good things the last couple of years," said Walters via conference call.

And McGuire has since decided to move on from football, embarking on a career in federal law enforcement, according to TSN reporter Dave Naylor."

https://3downnation.com/2022/02/09/bombers-want-experienced-backup-qb-as-sean-mcguire-contemplates-retirement/#:~:text=And%20McGuire%20has%20since%20decided,behind%20Zach%20Collaros%20in%202021.

[DM83]

Bombers need a starting QB and a backup and a 3rd down guy.
They need to revamp their defense.  Get rid of a 3man rush. That's a joke.

They are kind of like the jets. When the going gets tough, the jets and Bombers wilt extremely noticeably.

[theaardvark]

Bombers need a starting QB and a backup and a 3rd down guy.
They need to revamp their defense.  Get rid of a 3man rush. That's a joke.

They are kind of like the jets. When the going gets tough, the jets and Bombers wilt extremely noticeably.

We should save money, and find one guy to do all three jobs....


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