Bomber Free Agents

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Jesse

Quote from: Blueforlife on January 30, 2025, 09:55:36 PMWorth every penny, every year.

I'm a huge Bomber fan and I love Kenny.

It's not possible to be give full value for your contract as the highest paid receiver in the league when you miss huge chunks of the season.

We would all love him to play 18 and be a league leading receiver. He has not done that yet.
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Blueforlife

#496
Quote from: Jesse on January 30, 2025, 10:53:37 PMI'm a huge Bomber fan and I love Kenny.

It's not possible to be give full value for your contract as the highest paid receiver in the league when you miss huge chunks of the season.

We would all love him to play 18 and be a league leading receiver. He has not done that yet.
We can sign him at a price that will make it well worth it as long as he plays 3/4 games and playoffs.

markf

B.C. Released Alexander Hollins so maybe/probably one of our receivers goes with Buck/Rourke.

If you think Rourke will rebound, might be interesting.

Hope we do not end up with Hollins.

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#498
Quote from: markf on January 31, 2025, 12:21:28 AMB.C. Released Alexander Hollins so maybe/probably one of our receivers goes with Buck/Rourke.

If you think Rourke will rebound, might be interesting.

Hope we do not end up with Hollins.

BC currently has aprox. 16 receivers on their roster that will be competing for spots in TC, Hollins is one of the higher salaries they wanted to dump.

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There's nothing wrong with Hollins as a reciever, but its the price. Hopefully being released, his price tag comes down, but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to having him here.

Sir Blue and Gold

The SMS reckoning has come for import receivers this off-season for sure. None of the free agents are going to be making what they did last year. The only question is how much it falls and who blinks first.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 31, 2025, 01:03:57 PMThe SMS reckoning has come for import receivers this off-season for sure. None of the free agents are going to be making what they did last year. The only question is how much it falls and who blinks first.

Market reset which adds an interesting wrinkle to free agency.
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Pete

Quote from: markf on January 31, 2025, 12:21:28 AMB.C. Released Alexander Hollins so maybe/probably one of our receivers goes with Buck/Rourke.

If you think Rourke will rebound, might be interesting.

Hope we do not end up with Hollins.
Likely they released hollins to be able to afford Mcinnis.With Hatcher,Cottoy already being paid big bucks, its unlikely they go after another (unless they get rid of someone else)


theaardvark

The thing about Lawler missing games is that he gave us production when it counted, and didn't cost us $SMS when it didn't.  Yes, he has a high salary, but the actual $SMS we paid was much less.  You could almost sign him now for the same amount, and it would be paid for by the time he missed the last two seasons...
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Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 03:42:19 PMThe thing about Lawler missing games is that he gave us production when it counted, and didn't cost us $SMS when it didn't.  Yes, he has a high salary, but the actual $SMS we paid was much less.  You could almost sign him now for the same amount, and it would be paid for by the time he missed the last two seasons...

He absolutely cost us in the broader picture because who did we bring in when he got hurt? Keric Wheatfall? That's an opportunity cost which could (and you could argue, should) have been spent elsewhere. His injury was essentially priced into the cap and if you don't believe me the proof is that we spent right to it. He needs to play football games especially at that salary.  Big contracts in February is absolutely money we can't spend elsewhere during the season if he's hurt. At least it certainly doesn't maximize the impact of the dollars because there's no one significant left to sign. If there was a Lawler carbon copy we signed for the same amount per game and brought in when he was hurt your argument makes sense. Since that's not how it works it absolutely matters he didn't play.

theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on January 31, 2025, 03:47:08 PMHe absolutely cost us in the broader picture because who did we bring in when he got hurt? Keric Wheatfall? That's an opportunity cost which could (and you could argue, should) have been spent elsewhere. His injury was essentially priced into the cap and if you don't believe me the proof is that we spent right to it. He needs to play football games especially at that salary.  Big contracts in February is absolutely money we can't spend elsewhere during the season if he's hurt. At least it certainly doesn't maximize the impact of the dollars because there's no one significant left to sign.

$SMS saved due to injury/suspension does factor in, in signing players for the next season.  Yes, it is budgeted for at signing, and yes, it does limit who you can sign, but its not like he spent any time on the 1 game costing $SMS for no return.  And the games he did play were important games.
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Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 03:51:50 PM$SMS saved due to injury/suspension does factor in, in signing players for the next season.  Yes, it is budgeted for at signing, and yes, it does limit who you can sign, but its not like he spent any time on the 1 game costing $SMS for no return.  And the games he did play were important games.

Agreed! I like Lawler! And I want him back over Schoen which for me is a skillset thing. However, if he is signed for big money and he ends up missing a lot of games it is not a good deal for us any way you slice it. Yes, Walters can minimize the damage somewhat but trying to use the money as best he can, but the truth is he's trying to choose the least bad options because there aren't any good ones when big money guys get hurt in August.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 03:51:50 PM$SMS saved due to injury/suspension does factor in, in signing players for the next season.  Yes, it is budgeted for at signing, and yes, it does limit who you can sign, but its not like he spent any time on the 1 game costing $SMS for no return.  And the games he did play were important games.

Don't know what to make of this, you're the guy that uses the same rational to justify not re-signing Jeffcoat, who always came to play when the chips were down.

theaardvark

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 31, 2025, 04:08:45 PMDon't know what to make of this, you're the guy that uses the same rational to justify not re-signing Jeffcoat, who always came to play when the chips were down.

The games missed by Jeffcoat and Lawler were completely different.  And I said that if we could sign Jeffcoat to play the last few games of the season and playoffs, it would be awesome.  But that wasn't happening. 

Had we signed him last year, there was no guarantee he'd be around for the playoffs, and any games he played during the year would have been opportunities missed for "the next guy"

As it turns out, "the next guy" didn't materialize, and many of the contenders spent time on IR.  You rolls the dice and takes your chances.

My point in this thread was that Lawler's missed games aren't an bug, but a feature.  We benefited from his skill, and saved $SMS when he was not available. 

I think it will be tough to get Schoen and Lawler back.  Love both, but if I had to choose, Lawler squeaks out my pick.  Schoen is a great scramble outlet for Zach, which becomes even more important with Woli gone.  But Lawler makes catches that change the game, tilt the field.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: theaardvark on January 31, 2025, 04:21:43 PMThe games missed by Jeffcoat and Lawler were completely different.

How so?
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