Re: Zach Collaros

dd · November 25, 2024, 10:23:42 PM

Quote from: TBURGESS on November 25, 2024, 03:42:18 PMI believe that Zach will be our QB next year & he will be worse than he was this year. I also believe that VAJ will be better than Zach next year, no matter which team he's on. You, like many others confuse team stats like wins with QB stats.

We're not getting Dru that ship has sailed. Rumors out of Mtl say that Alexander will be their QB next year and they'll release the Faj.

I never said that it was all Zach's fault that we lost the cup. I said that he's not the Zach he was and that he's getting worse not better.

Adams is emotionally too unstable to lead a team when the going gets tough and the pressures on. He always buckles and it isn't pretty.

TBURGESS · November 26, 2024, 12:00:30 AM

Quote from: dd on November 25, 2024, 10:23:42 PMAdams is emotionally too unstable to lead a team when the going gets tough and the pressures on. He always buckles and it isn't pretty.

Completely disagree.

ModAdmin · November 26, 2024, 01:15:50 AM

I would just say Adams Jr. is a pretty decent quarterback and just leave it at that.

blue_gold_84 · November 26, 2024, 01:04:57 PM

Quote from: Blueforlife on November 25, 2024, 10:10:45 PMGlances at his record and rings

Team stats.

My point being that wins, losses, and championships are by and large team accomplishments. And a handful of posters dumping on a talented QB like Adams are being irrational in their criticisms.

blue_gold_84 · November 26, 2024, 01:07:06 PM

Quote from: ModAdmin on November 26, 2024, 01:15:50 AMI would just say Adams Jr. is a pretty decent quarterback and just leave it at that.

Better than decent. He was having a MOP season prior to getting hurt.

Pete · November 26, 2024, 02:49:04 PM

Not sure why all the talk about Adams,not a chance bc trades him to us unless Buck wants to do us one last favor when he becomes their head coach...

Jesse · November 26, 2024, 03:30:08 PM

Quote from: Pete on November 26, 2024, 02:49:04 PMNot sure why all the talk about Adams,not a chance bc trades him to us unless Buck wants to do us one last favor when he becomes their head coach...

BC will trade him to whoever gives the best offer (which will obviously not be us).

GOLDMEMBER · November 26, 2024, 08:37:56 PM

Well he is traded so that is that on him. Bombers need to go after both Fords!

TecnoGenius · November 26, 2024, 11:50:35 PM

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 26, 2024, 08:37:56 PMWell he is traded so that is that on him. Bombers need to go after both Fords!

Yay, so back to Zach... Hard no on QB Ford, unless he'll be a $110k backup, which is impossible. So... back to Zach!

Anyone taking a leap on QB Ford will be taking 5X more risk than those starting or thinking of starting Dru & Alexander.

Throw Long Bannatyne · November 27, 2024, 12:08:11 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 26, 2024, 11:50:35 PMYay, so back to Zach... Hard no on QB Ford, unless he'll be a $110k backup, which is impossible. So... back to Zach!

Anyone taking a leap on QB Ford will be taking 5X more risk than those starting or thinking of starting Dru & Alexander.

Agree, can't see Hervey choosing Ford as his undisputed starter, the stakes are too high in Edmonton, with a new owner and a new GM they start the season off playing with dynamite and they'll want to get off to a good start. If Ford has patience to play second fiddle and bide his time, they may be able to retain him for future mutual benefit.

Blueforlife · November 27, 2024, 12:26:28 AM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 26, 2024, 01:04:57 PMTeam stats.

My point being that wins, losses, and championships are by and large team accomplishments. And a handful of posters dumping on a talented QB like Adams are being irrational in their criticisms.

Greatest is generally defined by rings
Yes 100% team game and defense wins you cups as well
Adams is good, until he wins in the playoffs we won't be regarded as great imo
I don't mind him but he lacks consistency which all the great have
Yes some are too hard on VAJ but that's how this place works, some kicking while down at times.

Tiger · November 27, 2024, 03:06:53 AM

Quote from: Blueforlife on November 27, 2024, 12:26:28 AMGreatest is generally defined by rings

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Ask Dan Marino!

tlf · November 27, 2024, 11:59:16 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 26, 2024, 01:04:57 PMTeam stats.

My point being that wins, losses, and championships are by and large team accomplishments. And a handful of posters dumping on a talented QB like Adams are being irrational in their criticisms.

So why does Adams get individual credit and Zach's wins goes on the team credit? You can't do that. Either it's all team or all on the QB. Both Qbs are good QBs. We are lucky to have Zach who has improved our team IMMENSELY after the awful QBs we had.

blue_gold_84 · November 28, 2024, 01:13:34 PM

Quote from: tlf on November 27, 2024, 11:59:16 PMSo why does Adams get individual credit and Zach's wins goes on the team credit? You can't do that. Either it's all team or all on the QB. Both Qbs are good QBs. We are lucky to have Zach who has improved our team IMMENSELY after the awful QBs we had.

Show me where I did any such thing.