Can we win 2025 with this coaching staff.

[TBURGESS]

We were 6th in net offence & number of offensive plays.
We were 7th in points scored & TD's.

Buck was a bottom half of the league OC this year. 

[Sir Blue and Gold]

We were 6th in net offence & number of offensive plays.
We were 7th in points scored & TD's.

Buck was a bottom half of the league OC this year.

The offense was, yes. But it's more nuanced than that and you know it. You cannot rate coaches strictly on the output of the unit they coach on a yearly basis. If you do, you'd have to explain how he went from the best to the bottom half as a coach in one off season. There's more to it.

[dd]

we never replaced schoen when he went down, it was huge void filled by rookies, so we lost a 1000 yd reciever and filled it with a couple of 400 yd recievers....you need your big producer in your lineup as he creates opportunities for lawler and demski, and we didn't have him. We had kenny and Demski and wilson, who slowly developed over the season. You add a Schoen calibre reciever, our offense changes instantly and dramatically

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

The team has had great success, but part of that that is possibly overlooked is the "strength of schedule"

The west has not been a powerhouse during this run of Bomber success.

Saskatchewan under Dickensen, Elks under C. Jones, Calgary with quarterback problems,  has not been great.

Not saying the team has not been very good, but level of opposition has not been great.


just wondering, during one of the Grey Cup losses did the Bombers pull Zach  when in the red zone and put in Prukop who threw an int, or am I "misremembering" ?

also.... I am a fan of Mike O'Shea, but one thing I find annoying...once in a while, it's ok to let down the curtain and admit mistakes were made. 

I have heard Belichick after a loss say "I have to coach  better"

Watch the presser above, O'Sheas points out many of the mistakes he made during the game. Getting caught a defender short in the redzone is unforgiveable.

[Waffler]

Someone, probably Buck, should have reeled in this idea that we throw to Lawler if he's open or not, no matter what. Lapo definitely would have. 15 ints on 17 tds does not cut it, in fact it's embarrassing. As Zach ages he needs to be MORE careful with the ball. I don't think he realizes that his accuracy is not what it was.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Someone, probably Buck, should have reeled in this idea that we throw to Lawler if he's open or not, no matter what. Lapo definitely would have. 15 ints on 17 tds does not cut it, in fact it's embarrassing. As Zach ages he needs to be MORE careful with the ball. I don't think he realizes that his accuracy is not what it was.

I think it's Zach's idea to use Lawler in desperation mode as a last hope, instead of throwing the ball away which was Matt Nichols' out.

[markf]

Watch the presser above, O'Sheas points out many of the mistakes he made during the game. Getting caught a defender short in the redzone is unforgiveable.

ok.... read Hamilton's article in the Free Press. He articulates it much better than I can.


https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/2024/11/22/loyal-and-stubborn-to-the-end

[Waffler]

Just about to post that link myself. Jeff Hamilton really rips into him. Surprisingly so.

[Stats Junkie]

Farhan Lalji - @FarhanLaljiTSN
#BCLions have asked for permission to interview #Riders OC Marc Mueller for their HC position. BC is casting a wide net.
#Bombers have asked for permission to speak to Lions OC Jordan Maksymic for their OC position, in the event they lose Buck Pierce to a HC job.

[Pete]

We were 6th in net offence & number of offensive plays.
We were 7th in points scored & TD's.

Buck was a bottom half of the league OC this year.

I wonder why then Buck is being interviewed for head coach positions by individuals that are more football minds than most of us?

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Watch the presser above, O'Sheas points out many of the mistakes he made during the game. Getting caught a defender short in the redzone is unforgiveable.

It's forgivable when you're a 107-69 head coach who has had the sustained success he has. Very few in either football league can do what O'Shea has.

[dd]

Watch the presser above, O'Sheas points out many of the mistakes he made during the game. Getting caught a defender short in the redzone is unforgiveable.

Being short a defender in the red zone is beyond unforgivable, someone's head should roll. This isn't youth league football. It clearly demonstrates our heads were not in the game. Unbelievable actually

[ModAdmin]

Like it or not, Mike O'Shea is never going to throw his players or coaches under the bus and publicly blame them.  His private meetings with them may differ but he is prepared to take the main flack on poor play.  At worst, when referring to his players, he will say "We have to play better" but that is likely all you will get. It may be frustrating to fans but that is why his players respect him.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Being short a defender in the red zone is beyond unforgivable, someone's head should roll. This isn't youth league football. It clearly demonstrates our heads were not in the game. Unbelievable actually

Mike Kelly was a moron but at least he had good one liners for people who made comments like this. And he was wrong about a lot but probably not those zingers. You forgot to start your post with, "I've been a season ticket holder for 5482 billion minutes".

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Being short a defender in the red zone is beyond unforgivable, someone's head should roll. This isn't youth league football. It clearly demonstrates our heads were not in the game. Unbelievable actually

These defensive breakdowns only seems to happen to the secondary in Grey Cups, last season it was Bighill chasing an Als receiver all the way to the endzone on a wobbly leg after Parker went down and they had to adjust personnel quickly.  This time it was BA moving up to replace Kramdi, Taylor taking his spot, and "who's on first?" forgetting to sub in for Taylor. "I dunno, no idea".