Official Game Day Thread - Grey Cup - Winnipeg & Toronto - Nov. 17, 2024

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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Pigskin on November 15, 2024, 11:12:44 PMYes, Woli82 has been running for weeks at practice with some of the injured players.
fair enough can he cut? Can he secure the ball properly on impact? He needs to be as good as he can be when 100% healthy is the bottom line. Demski worries me not based on last game, he was very effective.
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Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 16, 2024, 02:08:52 AMfair enough can he cut? Can he secure the ball properly on impact? He needs to be as good as he can be when 100% healthy is the bottom line. Demski worries me not based on last game, he was very effective.

Again, he had a rib injury not anything to do with the leg. So there is no doubt he can make a cut. The question is can reach, take a hit, to the mid section, secure the catch and what is his timing like?

Whether he plays might only be a 50 / 50 call or they may have already decided he's ok to play. Health wise he may be good but he hasn't played for about 10 weeks and that's unfortunate.

My position was that I don't think he starts if he plays but would be used in to rotation and injury injury. Both Demski and Whitehead and less that 100% so making it through the game for either is not ensured.

Depth chart will be out in the morning and we're just guessing.

How do we replace Kelly on ST's and Noah Hallett if he's also out?  Cadwallader and Murphy as other options from the PR.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 16, 2024, 02:43:50 AMHow do we replace Kelly on ST's and Noah Hallett if he's also out?  Cadwallader and Murphy as other options from the PR.

Cadwall has dressed for most every game AFAIK.  Pretty sure he was in the WDF?  Thus no change there.  Murphy has been out a while.  Not sure we're sold on him, but NAT PR cupboard getting a bit bare.
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no turnovers

don't miss any FG, especially long ones

continue good/great kick coverage

win the TOP

do those things along with a nice balance of offensive plays and stopping 2nd down and we will win the the game

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on November 15, 2024, 09:33:50 PMDemski was limping noticibly after the injury, went off the field and got spatted up really hard. 

After that, he seemed off stride, Collaros missed him on a deep route by a lot.  He didn't seem to limp, but that amount of tape obviously slowed him down, threw off the timing.


Who knows what happened after the game, how badly it swelled or how he has recovered.

Yes, I want Woli and Demski in the lineup, *IF* they are 100%.  Not just healthy, but unlikely to aggravate the injury easily.  Last thing we need is to have 40% of our starting receivers come up lame on the first offensive down of the game.

This is the Grey Cup we're talking here, not a regular season game.  Its hard enough to win with a full roster.

Who dresses if they don't?  Well, Clercius is already in for Woli, so that's a no brainer.  Don't really have a NAT SB for Demski, other than Murphy... not sure if a hobbled Woli or Demski isn't a potential better choice than that...  sigh.

As soon as Demski loses half a step the deep over the shoulder catches stop clicking, saw it the second half of last season when he was banged up. Wouldn't mind them dressing Cody Case to handle returns so they can free Lucky up for more receiving duties, if no Woli and Demski is well below par.  Won't make much difference on return yards, as long as Case can catch and not turnover the ball. 

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 16, 2024, 05:26:38 AMCadwall has dressed for most every game AFAIK.  Pretty sure he was in the WDF?  Thus no change there.  Murphy has been out a while.  Not sure we're sold on him, but NAT PR cupboard getting a bit bare.

Sorry I meant Charbonneau sitting on the PR might get added. Murphy because we don't have too many NA options. Some reports suggest both Kelly and Hallett will be out. So that's a possible issue.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 16, 2024, 06:10:45 AMAs soon as Demski loses half a step the deep over the shoulder catches stop clicking, saw it the second half of last season when he was banged up. Wouldn't mind them dressing Cody Case to handle returns so they can free Lucky up for more receiving duties, if no Woli and Demski is well below par.  Won't make much difference on return yards, as long as Case can catch and not turnover the ball. 

Yes but that forces a change to the ratio to add Case. It would have to come from the defensive side of the roster.

The roster is generally more healthier than we expected to end the season. However losing Canadian depth is not something easily filled.
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bwiser

Quote from: blue_or_die on November 15, 2024, 04:25:52 PMHere it is...the last GDT of the year. Truly bittersweet - on one hand, here we are again getting to watch our team play for a 5th championship in a row. We get to cheer them on until the very last second of the season...again. Imagine going back in time to even 2019 and telling your past self that we would go on this kind of streak. After years and years of complete misery, has the universe ever made up for that.

...And on the other hand, regardless of the result, I am sad that next weekend there will be no CFL. Hoping the Jets can continue keeping me entertained through the long winter, and may the spring thaw and training camp reports come quick.

As for the actual game, all I gotta say is do what got ya there. Back 7 on D need to be everywhere on the field at once like they were last week. Collaros needs some time from the OL but needs to be smart with the ball. They're gonna come after him hard so we will need play action and short-medium outlets to get positive yards on every down. Get Brady going and let him bully the Argo D and get us to second and manageable every first down attempt. Give a shot to Kenny, Nic and Pokey more than often and let them come up with it way down field.

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You are so right about how I could not fathom us competing in our fifth consecutive Grey Cup. In 2019 we did not know what we had in Colleros and what an impact he would have on this team. Even after he won the cup it was not sure he would be retained or would the Bombers stick with Nicchols who had started the season as the starter and had a pretty decent year until he got hurt. The Bombers picked the right QB and the rest is history.

Jesse

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Quote from: blue_or_die on November 15, 2024, 04:25:52 PMHere it is...the last GDT of the year. Truly bittersweet - on one hand, here we are again getting to watch our team play for a 5th championship in a row. We get to cheer them on until the very last second of the season...again. Imagine going back in time to even 2019 and telling your past self that we would go on this kind of streak. After years and years of complete misery, has the universe ever made up for that.

...And on the other hand, regardless of the result, I am sad that next weekend there will be no CFL. Hoping the Jets can continue keeping me entertained through the long winter, and may the spring thaw and training camp reports come quick.

As for the actual game, all I gotta say is do what got ya there. Back 7 on D need to be everywhere on the field at once like they were last week. Collaros needs some time from the OL but needs to be smart with the ball. They're gonna come after him hard so we will need play action and short-medium outlets to get positive yards on every down. Get Brady going and let him bully the Argo D and get us to second and manageable every first down attempt. Give a shot to Kenny, Nic and Pokey more than often and let them come up with it way down field.

Avenge 2022.

GO ****IN' BOMBERS GO!!!

Way to be a Debbie downer, bringing up that there's no CFL after this.

Hadn't ONCE thought about that until now.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Jesse on November 16, 2024, 03:54:39 PMWay to be a Debbie downer, bringing up that there's NO CFL after this.

Hadn't ONCE thought about that until now.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 16, 2024, 01:10:39 PMYes but that forces a change to the ratio to add Case. It would have to come from the defensive side of the roster.

The roster is generally more healthier than we expected to end the season. However losing Canadian depth is not something easily filled.

I dunno, are they that close to the limit?  Seems most of the season they've been playing more Natls. than necessary, but I haven't really been paying close attention to the ratio this year, usually have 3 on D, 5 on O. Depth chart should be out this afternoon, so we'll see soon.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 16, 2024, 04:22:07 PMI dunno, are they that close to the limit?  Seems most of the season they've been playing more Natls. than necessary, but I haven't really been paying close attention to the ratio this year, usually have 3 on D, 5 on O. Depth chart should be out this afternoon, so we'll see soon.

They start more than necessary but you still need to have a certain amount of Canadians rostered. If one comes off, another comes in.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on November 16, 2024, 04:23:37 PMThey start more than necessary but you still need to have a certain amount of Canadians rostered. If one comes off, another comes in.

It has more to do with the number of imports allowed. A team can choose to dress more than the minimum number of Canadians. However teams seldom reduce the number of imports rostered unless there are injury issues.

Whether a team starts 7 or 10 Canadians, the number of imports on the AR doesn't change.

Things get a bit foggy when we have some imports that aren't starting but also aren't specific DI's in classification.

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Jesse

Depth chart!

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