Injury thoughts?

[Blueforlife]

Mods please merge this with my injury thread

[Blue In BC]

Nothing from latest practice reports from either team? Mostly curious to see if Woli has a chance to play.

[blue_or_die]

Woli was definitely on the sidelines for the WF.

Last time he came back, he didn't get through a half. I hope he's just going on ice until next season.

Me too, and for a number of reasons.

- Makes sure he's truly 100% for next season
- Doesn't mess up his recovery
- The above is important as he's no longer a spring chicken
- Doesn't compromise our Cup game roster with a non-100% player like we did last year
- Clercius has filled in more than adequately
- The fifth receiver position is hardly a difference maker. If your guy can block and take possession the few times they're called upon, that's all you need. There's only one football to go around.

[Blue In BC]

Me too, and for a number of reasons.

- Makes sure he's truly 100% for next season
- Doesn't mess up his recovery
- The above is important as he's no longer a spring chicken
- Doesn't compromise our Cup game roster with a non-100% player like we did last year
- Clercius has filled in more than adequately
- The fifth receiver position is hardly a difference maker. If your guy can block and take possession the few times they're called upon, that's all you need. There's only one football to go around.

You do realize our 5th receiver is Whitehead and he's hardly a blocker. He'd also be doing double duty.

Woli doesn't have to start to be useful which I mentioned several times. I also mentioned that Noah Hallett might out and we'd need another Canadian to add. If not Hallett then who ever is at the bottom of the depth chart.

I think some posters worry too much about whether a player is fully recovered because of last year. Last year we didn't have any healthy bodies to add to the roster. This is not the same problem.

If he's deemed good to go, he's a valuable asset. He's also a potential free agent so worrying about 2025 is a bit premature.

You'd think a player never recovers from an injury. He hasn't played since 9/7 and has missed 10 games.   He is a favourite target for Collaros so yes he is a difference maker and could replace Wheatfall as the starter is some sets.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Me too, and for a number of reasons.

- Makes sure he's truly 100% for next season
- Doesn't mess up his recovery
- The above is important as he's no longer a spring chicken
- Doesn't compromise our Cup game roster with a non-100% player like we did last year
- Clercius has filled in more than adequately
- The fifth receiver position is hardly a difference maker. If your guy can block and take possession the few times they're called upon, that's all you need. There's only one football to go around.

Disagree, Woli is one of the best 5th receivers in the league because he has such a great understanding of what his QB's needs on any given play.  At this point Clercius is filling in as good as he can, blocking and catching on scripted short routes but hasn't yet shown he is good going off script. 

Argos are going to keep a sharp eye on Lawler this game and Demski could use help providing Zach with alternate targets.  If Woli can't go, Lucky might have to step up his game as the rookie crew just are not there yet.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

I'll take Clercius. He's just as capable of having a big game.

[Jesse]

You do realize our 5th receiver is Whitehead and he's hardly a blocker. He'd also be doing double duty.

Woli doesn't have to start to be useful which I mentioned several times. I also mentioned that Noah Hallett might out and we'd need another Canadian to add. If not Hallett then who ever is at the bottom of the depth chart.

I think some posters worry too much about whether a player is fully recovered because of last year. Last year we didn't have any healthy bodies to add to the roster. This is not the same problem.

If he's deemed good to go, he's a valuable asset. He's also a potential free agent so worrying about 2025 is a bit premature.

You'd think a player never recovers from an injury. He hasn't played since 9/7 and has missed 10 games.   He is a favourite target for Collaros so yes he is a difference maker and could replace Wheatfall as the starter is some sets.

Our 5th receiver is Wheatfall who Lucky sometimes comes in for, but mostly is just an in-game injury replacement.

Woli's spot is being covered by Clercius. I'd much rather see Clercius keep doing what he's been doing all rather rather than risk an injured WOli being forced in.

[Blue In BC]

Our 5th receiver is Wheatfall who Lucky sometimes comes in for, but mostly is just an in-game injury replacement.

Woli's spot is being covered by Clercius. I'd much rather see Clercius keep doing what he's been doing all rather rather than risk an injured WOli being forced in.

Our receivers are capable of playing more than one spot. Regardless I said that " if " Woli was healthy and that he could be rotated in and not necessarily need to start.

[blue_or_die]

Yeah, you guys are overvaluing that field side WR spot too much. I love Woli but I would say we have been just fine with our receiver core at this point in time. We aren't "just not there yet" anymore.

All that said, I hope Woli is a Bomber for life. He's definitely a fan favourite..

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Very worrisome, both Woli and Demski did not practice today, Zach needs veteran targets.

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/13/cfl-injury-reports-111th-grey-cup/

[TecnoGenius]

Inscribing so many players names on the GC is a bit silly, as very few people actually see them and eventually space will run out.

The problem there is I bet a ton of players play their butts off to be "immortal", with their name on the cup.  If you move the names just to the interwebs, there's one less incentive.

If it's AR + 4 coaches, I can live with that.  IR or demoted to PR: sucks to be you I guess (harsh!).

I feel really sorry for Biggie.  Now we know why Biggie/Schoen fought so hard to get back for the '23 cup.

I bet the coaches are secretly hated by some if you're an AR dude for the last third and then get bumped to PR/IR for the cup!  Ouch.

[TecnoGenius]

Mods please merge this with my injury thread

Sorry B4L.  I have no idea why I didn't see/read yours before starting this, I usually read everything! (Reading yours now.)  My bad, I try really hard to not do that.  Merging makes sense.

[TecnoGenius]

Cup names are only players on the AR.

Thanks Jesse!

So my revised table is:

rings: AR/IR/PR
cup names: AR
playoff money: AR/IR

Looking more accurate?

I wonder if the team somehow compensates dudes like Cole and Kelly who play quite a bit and get yanked right at the last minute?

Might create animosity towards Nick Taylor who just parachutes in and gets all the gibs?  Boy, managing all of this stuff must suck!

[TecnoGenius]

He is a favourite target for Collaros so yes he is a difference maker and could replace Wheatfall as the starter is some sets.

Does Woli make that jumping instant-hit catch Wheatfall made in the WDF?  Serious question.  I think, yes?  But not always?  Then again, Wheatfall might whiff at that 7 times out of 10 too.

If Noah is gone to IR, you could dress both Emperor and Woli, with Woli starting and the other backing up the entire REC corps.  I'm not sure we'll need the extra manpower on D... TOR O ain't gonna do much except run.  Noah isn't going to help there.  Maybe dressing both Cole and Ayers would though!

If Woli's legit 100%, not '23 Schoen 60% 100%, you dress Woli.

[TecnoGenius]

Very worrisome, both Woli and Demski did not practice today, Zach needs veteran targets.

Demski dinged up the ankle or something bad enough to frustratingly punch the ground in the WDF.  Not surprised he's a no-practice.  Unless that thing swelled up 3X the size over the week, you pump in some needles and he starts.

The thing with having the vets on field is TOR must respect them all.  Wheatie and Whitehead they'll mostly just ignore, paying lip service to the coverage unless they prove otherwise (i.e. deadly/TDs).