2024 Grey Cup Pre-game Discussion

Throw Long Bannatyne · November 13, 2024, 06:04:48 PM

Quote from: dd on November 13, 2024, 05:48:28 PMI just don't see that happening. He's been a DC less than a year, and has had the benefit of having Richie Hall around to help with things, so how much is him and how much is Richie's doing?? He's had the benefit of being around a very good front office and would do himself good to learn as much as he can about running a football club before advancing to HC

Could be right, but all it takes is one team thinking differently making him an offer, which would double or triple his salary immediately.

blue_gold_84 · November 13, 2024, 06:07:37 PM

There were similar remarks made about Pierce after his first year as OC.

Not saying Younger isn't HC material. I do think it's way too early to suggest he'll be high on any HC vacancy lists right now, though.

Look what happened to Claybrooks.

Throw Long Bannatyne · November 13, 2024, 06:27:34 PM

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 13, 2024, 06:07:37 PMThere were similar remarks made about Pierce after his first year as OC.

Not saying Younger isn't HC material. I do think it's way too early to suggest he'll be high on any HC vacancy lists right now, though.

Look what happened to Claybrooks.

Essentially Claybrooks got shafted, he was promised 3 years to get it right by Ed Hervey and was only given one year to succeed or fail. Most GM's are smarter now, they realise a HC can't turn a broken team around in year one.

Jesse · November 13, 2024, 08:48:30 PM

Quote from: dd on November 13, 2024, 05:48:28 PMI just don't see that happening. He's been a DC less than a year, and has had the benefit of having Richie Hall around to help with things, so how much is him and how much is Richie's doing?? He's had the benefit of being around a very good front office and would do himself good to learn as much as he can about running a football club before advancing to HC

He's doing things quite a bit differently from Hall. Fair to say this is JY's crew now.

That said, in a home Grey Cup year, after one year as a DC, I think it's safe to say we can talk JY into sticking around for another year.

theaardvark · November 14, 2024, 04:42:24 AM

Every team has a front office SMS, with not "appearance/promotional" money.

Yes, JY and Buck will be top of lists for HC openings. How many are there? And how many contenders?

This is a tight knit group, and OC or DC is the second highest coaching level in the CFL, and coaches can have long and lucrative careers as OC or DC.

Can any team offer a better OC or DC position to JY or Buck? Really? Better than the best team in the league?

I think our coaches will be back next year going for the Cup at home.

Blue In BC · November 14, 2024, 01:46:39 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on November 14, 2024, 04:42:24 AMEvery team has a front office SMS, with not "appearance/promotional" money.

Yes, JY and Buck will be top of lists for HC openings. How many are there? And how many contenders?

This is a tight knit group, and OC or DC is the second highest coaching level in the CFL, and coaches can have long and lucrative careers as OC or DC.

Can any team offer a better OC or DC position to JY or Buck? Really? Better than the best team in the league?

I think our coaches will be back next year going for the Cup at home.

The coaches also don't play so promotional appearances are just like interviews they do all season. In that sense there is no need to have a separate promotional amount as there is with players. It's unusual for teams to allow a lateral move if coordinators are still under contract.

Pierce might draw interest for a HC position but I think O'Shea will draw more this off season.

theaardvark · November 14, 2024, 02:04:57 PM

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 14, 2024, 01:46:39 PMThe coaches also don't play so promotional appearances are just like interviews they do all season. In that sense there is no need to have a separate promotional amount as there is with players. It's unusual for teams to allow a lateral move if coordinators are still under contract.

Pierce might draw interest for a HC position but I think O'Shea will draw more this off season.

I can't see any position or any team that could make any of our coaches happy with a lateral move, and I don't think O'Shea is interested in the multi hat roles like Jones took.

*IF* a HC role comes up this year, and I can't really see any good team having an open spot, Buck may get some looks again. One season as a DC doesn't put JY into the conversation, it did last year because there were lots of DC openings, and we would have lost him to one had we not promoted him.

Again, being well paid to work on the best team in the league is going to beat being slightly better paid on a worse team. The Bombers main attraction is that they are both talented and a genuinely great bunch of guys, the "culture" here is not one duplicated elsewhere.

Mick · November 14, 2024, 03:02:28 PM

Grey Cup Injury Report:

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/13/cfl-injury-reports-111th-grey-cup/

Waffler · November 14, 2024, 05:17:32 PM

9:30 local time today for those that want to watch the awards.

https://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/10/111th-grey-cup-cfl-awards/

Watch the 2024 CFL Awards hosted by CFL on TSN's Kate Beirness and Milt Stegall live on CFL+ on Thursday, November 14 starting at 10:30 p.m. ET.

Throw Long Bannatyne · November 14, 2024, 05:18:54 PM

Quote from: theaardvark on November 14, 2024, 02:04:57 PMI can't see any position or any team that could make any of our coaches happy with a lateral move, and I don't think O'Shea is interested in the multi hat roles like Jones took.

*IF* a HC role comes up this year, and I can't really see any good team having an open spot, Buck may get some looks again. One season as a DC doesn't put JY into the conversation, it did last year because there were lots of DC openings, and we would have lost him to one had we not promoted him.

Again, being well paid to work on the best team in the league is going to beat being slightly better paid on a worse team. The Bombers main attraction is that they are both talented and a genuinely great bunch of guys, the "culture" here is not one duplicated elsewhere.

Not many HC openings this year or any year lately with the coach's cap, so there's not a lot of opportunities to compete for HC jobs if that is the ultimate ambition. Maybe the Elks, maybe the RB's but probably not this year. The RB's fired DC Barron Miles last week, so that's one opening with a possible quicker ascension to HC if they decide to eventually dump Bob Dyce who has been underperforming for years.

Tiger · November 14, 2024, 08:28:58 PM

The Argos at Hotel Vancouver seem all happy. Hopefully Collaros and company can change that on Sunday.

theaardvark · November 14, 2024, 08:59:36 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 14, 2024, 05:18:54 PMNot many HC openings this year or any year lately with the coach's cap, so there's not a lot of opportunities to compete for HC jobs if that is the ultimate ambition. Maybe the Elks, maybe the RB's but probably not this year. The RB's fired DC Barron Miles last week, so that's one opening with a possible quicker ascension to HC if they decide to eventually dump Bob Dyce who has been underperforming for years.

A lateral move to a worse organization even for a pay bump and a perceived road to promotion, sorry if I can't see it.

Throw Long Bannatyne · November 14, 2024, 09:26:23 PM

Day 2 of practice.

GOLDMEMBER · November 14, 2024, 10:27:34 PM

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 14, 2024, 09:26:23 PMDay 2 of practice.

nice thanks for sharing!

The Zipp · November 14, 2024, 11:00:17 PM