Beating SSK

Started by TecnoGenius, November 03, 2024, 12:56:33 AM

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dd

There was a flag on the play, the ref on the left side threw it the minute Brady was pushed down. And it was a cheap,dumb play by the Riders, but it cost them 15

markf

Quote from: dd on November 06, 2024, 04:54:04 PMThere was a flag on the play, the ref on the left side threw it the minute Brady was pushed down. And it was a cheap,dumb play by the Riders, but it cost them 15

thanks....

theaardvark

Quote from: TBURGESS on November 04, 2024, 02:39:04 PMHas Collaros really been the best QB this year?

                GP      Y        Y/G          EFF          TD        INT        COMP%
Harris        12      3264    272        108.4        20          9          72.4
Collaros    18      4336    240          96.3        17        15          70.1

Stats from CFL.CA

Take the 4 disasterous starts o start the season off that chart, and I think Collaros looks pretty good...
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TBURGESS

Quote from: theaardvark on November 06, 2024, 06:15:06 PMTake the 4 disasterous starts o start the season off that chart, and I think Collaros looks pretty good...
I hate this type of 'reasoning'. You can't simply take out the 4 worst games.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TBURGESS on November 06, 2024, 07:25:04 PMI hate this type of 'reasoning'. You can't simply take out the 4 worst games.

You can if you're trying to determine how he's going to play Saturday which is all that really matters. I have no idea how he'd grade out but the last four games he's played are much more relevant to that discussion than the ones he played in June.  Same for the whole team.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on November 06, 2024, 08:12:28 PMYou can if you're trying to determine how he's going to play Saturday which is all that really matters. I have no idea how he'd grade out but the last four games he's played are much more relevant to that discussion than the ones he played in June.  Same for the whole team.

The last game was a concern on defence. We escaped with the win. The defence gave up a lot of yards and points against the Als. The Als didn't use all their starters for all of the game and we were disparate to win.

I speed watched the game again but didn't come to specific conclusions about why / how we struggled on defence. In hindsight I think the drop off at safety was an issue. We seem to have a choice to make to change that this week.



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Pete

It comes down to this game ,,any given sunday.
Lets hope they are ready!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 06, 2024, 09:30:58 PMThe last game was a concern on defence. We escaped with the win. The defence gave up a lot of yards and points against the Als. The Als didn't use all their starters for all of the game and we were disparate to win.

I speed watched the game again but didn't come to specific conclusions about why / how we struggled on defence. In hindsight I think the drop off at safety was an issue. We seem to have a choice to make to change that this week.

I noticed some confusion between the secondary and the LB's in that game which led to big gains, hopefully BA is back to help steady the back end and make the DB's aware of their assignments.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: markf on November 06, 2024, 02:40:51 PMI think Harris is a lot better quarterback than seems to be generally thought. accurate, ball out quickly.

Harris may make the quickest reads in the CFL, and may be correct 90% of the time.  And he makes most of his reads pre-snap, and the 0.5s after the snap.  He's basically winding up the pass before any receiver is anywhere near in place.  It's an interesting talent.

However, that can bite him like that final knockdown pass in the 2PAT in our other game with them this year: if we successfully fool him with a fake look or movement we can try to speed our way into place, or bring in a guy in an unorthodox way, to stop/INT the throw he is already committed to.

And none of this quick read talent helps him when his reads are covered and he has to wait a bit longer.  Get him in that mode and he starts making mistakes.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Mick on November 06, 2024, 01:59:33 PMVery true, I honestly believe we are going to see a stellar performance by our OL Saturday. Cox and Reavis would be a huge loss to the riders D.

I should hope so.  I think 4 of our starting 5 are not guaranteed a starting job next year.  I would not be surprised by 1 or 2 unforced replacements in FA/draft.  1 or 2 could go back to being 6th.

If they play like a GC-caliber team, then all of that could be moot.  If they are capable of doing it, I think they will now.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on November 05, 2024, 07:05:05 PMThe BB need to put out their "A" game to beat Saskatchewan. The Riders have nothing to lose so they will go all out. If the BB think they can walk all over the Riders, they will be in for a pretty nasty surprise.

I go over the units and scenarios in my mind every night falling asleep.  Every night I move more towards thinking we're going to cream them.  I think we may actually destroy them.

They really shouldn't be in this position, as a playoff-missing team last year.  They need to slowly move up through the ranks like most teams do.  And they have a noob, weird, iffy HC.  And all of their injuries.  And their one-trick pony O.

Ya, I think this may turn into the 2023 Banjo Bowl.  It's just my gut feeling.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pete on November 05, 2024, 05:39:42 PMwhats interesting is that if we had posted something similar with a bomber slant to it on the rider forum we would be cursed at, told to get the **** out of here etc. and likely a referral to years gone past with DUrant, bighill and Oshea negative references thrown in for good measure. At least when we object we have some arguements to offset.

Yes.  Rider fans are treated like humans here.  Bomber fans are treated worse than dirt over on Riderfans forum... and not for just rocking the boat: they are spit at merely for existing.

And man, do they hate MBB over there, and for some reason think that is the "main" WPG forum.
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 07, 2024, 07:29:52 AMI should hope so.  I think 4 of our starting 5 are not guaranteed a starting job next year.  I would not be surprised by 1 or 2 unforced replacements in FA/draft.  1 or 2 could go back to being 6th.

If they play like a GC-caliber team, then all of that could be moot.  If they are capable of doing it, I think they will now.


You're funny. I think 5 out 5 are guaranteed a job next year if they choose to come back.
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BlueFire

Well "old" Willy can still get his hands up but for what he's getting paid he needs to more. A lot more. Yes I said something negative about willy. Sorry

Mick

Here's the opposite side of the ball for the Banjo bowl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1EmEt9AEfA&t=59s