Beating SSK

Started by TecnoGenius, November 03, 2024, 12:56:33 AM

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jayrock

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Quote from: jayrock on November 04, 2024, 07:58:45 PMhttps://www.cfl.ca/2024/11/04/head-to-head-who-has-the-edge-in-the-western-final-4/

CFL writers opinion. Regardless, going to be a dog fight.

Interesting quote by Zach.

"The Bombers passing attack has been battered and bruised all season long with major injuries and Collaros told me a few weeks ago that Winnipeg really had to find new solutions to up their passing game effectiveness, not rely on bringing old answers back to life with a fresh cast of characters asked to play heightened roles."


TBURGESS

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 04, 2024, 06:49:47 PMYes he has.  It's more than just stats over a season. He has a higher football IQ and greater talent.

You want stats? He beat the Riders this season and last season.
Beating the Riders is a team stat, not a QB stat. 
Winnipeg Blue Bombers - 2019 Grey Cup Champs.

Blue In BC

Alexander is back at practice.
Take no prisoners

Horseman

Sask will try to play bully ball with bruiser Oulette, and use the dink and dunk to compliment that. I hope we don't suffer the same fate as the Bisons did last Saturday against the Regina Rams, who won on a last minute TD.

blue_or_die

#51
I would definitely try to get the run game going earlier, but if they're able to stop that right away with their excellent run D, I'd like to see Olive Oil used creatively - as a receiver (proven and underrated in this role), whether it's a planned play or more likely, set up as an outlet if Zach can't find anyone open after a couple reads and they're aggressive at the line. Aside from that, if our pass protect plays well on the OL and/or they back off the LoS more or less, Zach needs to be accurate and make smart decisions, and our receivers need to do their part and catch balls when space might not be so available. We are paying Lawler to do that kind of thing regularly.

On D, I expect us to continue the 3 man rush and focus on limiting the dink-and-dunk that they will try. Outlette and Armstead are pretty good but they will ultimately need to be able to pass as well so as long at the secondary and LBs are dialed in we should be able to do our bend-don't-break D and limit them to 3s or ideally stop them before. No explosion plays pls. Let's make them boring and predicatable.
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markf

#52
Harris v Ford, and Zach v. Milligan.

maybe willie, or Jones, or Evan Holm could make a big play.

Ouelette.... has he really done much, with Argos and Riders?

almost seems like he he appears to be doing more than he actually does.


Zach quoted "Winnipeg really had to find new solutions to up their passing game effectiveness, not rely on bringing old answers back to life with a fresh cast of characters asked to play heightened roles."

better late than never....

half the touchdown passes compared to last  two seasons.


bluebeard

Let me say this...I can not see us losing but we will win by only 7 points or less.

SSK OL has had injuries all season and the backups have played well.  This game will be no different.

Lanier did not play against BC.  He was probably their best pass rusher this season.  Injured?  If he plays against us he is one tough guy to stop.

There receivers are some of the best in the league and most are Canadian.

The Riders led the league in take a ways by a large margine.  They did the same against BC in the Semi.  Also a good coaching staff.

Having said all that we have a better team with much more playoff experience.

This (Rider) is not a team to take lightly.

dd

#54
The game will be won and lost on the line. Our O line has got to stop the riders pass rush or we re dead. Riders have #1 D against the run, so they will be scheming to stop Brady ball and make us pass the ball. Wasn't Collaros sacked 7 times a couple of games ago?? That can't happen this game, it simple can't or we know the outcome of that

Just finished re watching the WSF, and Adams was running for his life the entire game and that's without Lanier!!

This is going to be the best game of the year, crowd noise will be in our favour, but the team that doesn't turn the ball over wins and the crowd can play a roll in that

Mick

Quote from: dd on November 04, 2024, 09:59:49 PMThe game will be won and lost on the line. Our O line has got to stop the riders pass rush or we re dead. Riders have #1 D against the run, so they will be scheming to stop Brady ball and make us pass the ball. Wasn't Collaros sacked 7 times a couple of games ago?? That can't happen this game, it simple can't or we know the outcome of that

We'll be fine, the O line adjusted nicely vs MTL.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TBURGESS on November 04, 2024, 08:22:16 PMBeating the Riders is a team stat, not a QB stat.

So are passing stats. Someone has to be catch those passes. As I said, Collaros has a higher football IQ.
Take no prisoners

dd

#57
Quote from: Blue In BC on November 04, 2024, 10:28:05 PMSo are passing stats. Someone has to be catch those passes. As I said, Collaros has a higher football IQ.
Yet he's thrown way more interceptions???

The key to this game will be who turns the ball over, I am hoping we/ZC doesn't turn the ball over and we'll win, turn it over, and....

TecnoGenius

Quote from: bluebeard on November 04, 2024, 09:37:17 PMLanier did not play against BC.  He was probably their best pass rusher this season.  Injured?  If he plays against us he is one tough guy to stop.

Lanier was a healthy scratch.  Riderfans were perplexed but they said since his injury and ineffectiveness this year he's lost the confidence of the coaches, and the other guys have been playing better.  If Cox is out they'll dress Lanier this time, otherwise just ignore him.

Quote from: bluebeard on November 04, 2024, 09:37:17 PMThere receivers are some of the best in the league and most are Canadian.

They are hot crap.  Do any make over $200k?  I bet their REC corps is paid half of what ours is.

It's really easy to look like a good REC with lots of completions when every pass is 5 to 13 yards!!  Woowee.  Good for fantasy points, but not much else.

Johnson: invisible last game, and last few games too.  A noob who is rarely targeted because that would require Trevor to throw deep/long, which of course SSK doesn't do.

KSB: has been MIA all season; last 2 years he was an outstanding fantasy pick, this season he's been useless.

Sterns: only there because of injury and other lack of depth; many Riderfans wanted him benched after many games.

Duncan-Busby: rookie NAT, good at 6Y catches.  Just ignore him.  Emperor is better.

Emilus: their only real REC, the only one earning any money, and he's not even that good.  Ya, he's their best chance when they need a circus grab or a 50/50 Hail Mary (see the Banjo Bowl), but that's not saying much.  I liken it to this: remember the Dressler/Smith combo in SSK then WPG?  Emilus is the Smith.  We have the Dressler.

End result: double cover Emilus if he goes deep and voila we're back to All They Have Is The Dink & Dunk.  Stop the run, block the dunk lanes, and SSK is screwed.

If SSK decides to try to surprise everyone with an unexpected deep air attack in the first Q, they are taking a huge gamble and I think our DBs feast if we are set to expect trickery.  If I was them I'd gamble big or go home, but I bet they stick to the 6Y pass all night.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on November 04, 2024, 06:59:25 PMThe big difference in Collaros and Harris is Collaros throws more picks, he cannot do this in this game.

Hard to throw picks when every pass is a quick slant/curl, wide out, draw screen, dump pass or hitch screen.  If he was a normal QB/OC who varied his target depth, he'd have as many picks as Zach.
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