Beating SSK

TecnoGenius · November 03, 2024, 12:56:33 AM

OK brainiacs, what did you see in the WSF and all season that can help us beat SSK in the WDF?

I noticed SSK stuck 100% to what made them successful, and I expect they continue that. They had nothing new, added no new wrinkles, and didn't play outside their capabilities.

It's dink & dunk & run all the way. So let's roster and position our fastest guys to cut short routes.

DL guys need to get in lanes and hands up. No sense trying to get to the QB, as he'll just get rid of the ball too fast, and we suck at sacks anyhow.

LBers need to get in lanes and cut off hot routes. Blitzing won't be helpful. Also need to keep contain at the 2nd level for when the RBs bust through gaping holes, which they will. Hole stuffing won't help here.

DBs need to play tight zone or man. Soft zone is what allows Trevor to get his only "deep" 15-20Y passes. Soft zone plus our zero-pressure will not win us anything.

DBs need to cheat up to cut off the shorter routes. Trevor will rarely go deep and most go routes will just be decoys. I can't recall the last time I saw SSK/Trevor chuck a 50Yer (excluding YAC of course).

As for our O, which will need to put up points (probably 2 TD), it would be nice if we can get Brady going, but I won't be money on it. Our wildly mixed game should work just like it did before vs SSK. I'm not scared of any player, not even Milligan. Our nice usual mix of short/mid/deep + Brady should win it as long as Zach is smart with the reads.

SSK D is not a smoke & mirrors D like MTL. They are very plain and straightforward. They just execute well and can get pressure. That should help Zach, as it's D's like MTL that give him problems.

Our OL needs to have their best game yet and prove they aren't the weak link.

Post your best thoughts on SSK weaknesses and good ideas!

bomb squad · November 03, 2024, 01:07:17 AM

Just win the game. I'll leave the scheming and strategy to the coaches.

TecnoGenius · November 03, 2024, 01:09:31 AM

Quote from: bomb squad on November 03, 2024, 01:07:17 AMJust win the game. I'll leave the scheming and strategy to the coaches.

That's no fun! We have a whole week to wait here! Throw something out there... anything...

TecnoGenius · November 03, 2024, 01:15:43 AM

The WDF should be a very quick, very low scoring game as it'll be a weird situation where both teams are major clock-killing game-grinders.

Mick · November 03, 2024, 01:18:13 AM

I don't think so, Winnipeg is going to destroy the riders. It'll be a blow out. They took a pile of injuries tonight.

Pete · November 03, 2024, 01:33:38 AM

The key to beating riders is do not turn the ball over. Make them go the entire length of field and get them to make a mistake.
If we can limit them to field goals and Zac plays like he has against the riders I like our chances.
Mind you its frustrating as fans watching Harris move the ball against us but we need to be patient (and loud)

TecnoGenius · November 03, 2024, 01:40:16 AM

Quote from: Pete on November 03, 2024, 01:33:38 AMMind you its frustrating as fans watching Harris move the ball against us but we need to be patient (and loud)

And then we get a post route to Demski for a 2-play TD series and completely demoralize the greenies! For some reason Demski is always their nemesis.

Zach Schnitzer · November 03, 2024, 01:43:26 AM

Patience is key. Harris will get some yards and first downs but our secondary is very good. Hold them to FG's. I worry about our run defence against ouellette. On O Zach needs to have a great game, like he did in the first half of the LDC. Their pass defence is suspect. Sergio can't miss makeable field goals.

Blue In BC · November 03, 2024, 01:11:41 PM

We have to be better against the run and we need to get more pressure on Harris. If not they will control TOP whether they score or not.

Mick · November 03, 2024, 01:19:33 PM

Outlette was getting stuffed in the 2nd half. Either he re-aggartvated his hip injury and was less effective, he did seem to be limping again, or BC started plugging up the line. Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see armstead getting much time in the 2nd half, injured again?

GOLDMEMBER · November 03, 2024, 02:41:04 PM

Quote from: Mick on November 03, 2024, 01:19:33 PMOutlette was getting stuffed in the 2nd half. Either he re-aggartvated his hip injury and was less effective, he did seem to be limping again, or BC started plugging up the line. Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see armstead getting much time in the 2nd half, injured again?

Riders took some shots in the health department. There Center, Schafer-Baker, Ouelette nicked again as mentioned, among others.

Bombers have all the advantages they should take hold of them.

Mick · November 03, 2024, 03:06:56 PM

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on November 03, 2024, 02:41:04 PMRiders took some shots in the health department. There Center, Schafer-Baker, Ouelette nicked again as mentioned, among others.

Bombers have all the advantages they should take hold of them.

Outlette definitely came out strong, but by the 2nd half he was clearly not 100% even after a full week off. This game has nothing to do with SSK being good, they put up garbage numbers, BC was just that bad!, to the point that it made SSK look better than they really are.

GOLDMEMBER · November 03, 2024, 03:08:59 PM

Quote from: Mick on November 03, 2024, 03:06:56 PMOutlette definitely came out strong, but by the 2nd half he was clearly not 100% even after a full week off. This game has nothing to do with SSK being good, they put up garbage numbers, BC was just that bad!, to the point that it made SSK look better than they really are.

I agree.

Slingin Sammy · November 03, 2024, 03:13:46 PM

Our D appears to be vulnerable to the short quick dump, dink, screen type offences that are Jason Maas staples and are run by Sask and Montreal. I hope JY and Richie have a good scheme drawn up for the WDF. Against Montreal last week, even though we consistently dropped 9, Mtl QBs were efficient, completed passes at a high rate, moved the ball, and scored in the red zone. Granted we didn't tackle well, and didn't have a great day on D until we forced two and outs in the dying minutes of the 4th... we have to be better with our fundamentals and scheme IMHO...a run blitz or any kind of blitz would be nice to see...I think we blitzed once against Mtl and it almost resulted in Ty Ford getting a pick 6...having said all that...I trust JY and Richie. I'm sure if they feel we need to be more aggressive and blitz in different situations...we'll be doing it...

GOLDMEMBER · November 03, 2024, 03:23:42 PM

Quote from: Slingin Sammy on November 03, 2024, 03:13:46 PMOur D appears to be vulnerable to the short quick dump, dink, screen type offences that are Jason Maas staples and are run by Sask and Montreal. I hope JY and Richie have a good scheme drawn up for the WDF. Against Montreal last week, even though we consistently dropped 9, Mtl QBs were efficient, completed passes at a high rate, moved the ball, and scored in the red zone. Granted we didn't tackle well, and didn't have a great day on D until we forced two and outs in the dying minutes of the 4th... we have to be better with our fundamentals and scheme IMHO...a run blitz or any kind of blitz would be nice to see...I think we blitzed once against Mtl and it almost resulted in Ty Ford getting a pick 6...having said all that...I trust JY and Richie. I'm sure if they feel we need to be more aggressive and blitz in different situations...we'll be doing it...

In past years it was noticeable that Richie went from a bend but don't break D to a more creative pressure scheme in waves in the playoffs. One can only hope for more of the same this year.