Dynasty or Disappointment?

Started by Zach Schnitzer, November 01, 2024, 04:47:53 PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: BlueInCgy on November 04, 2024, 12:17:52 PMThreads like this are why teams don't touch the Divisional Championship Trophy....

Argh, that's my biggest bugbear.  Touch the freakin' trophy!  Holy smokes.  I bet those 2 GC loss years they wished they had touched the trophy!  They never got to touch any trophy!  How does that feel!

Celebrate winning the West!  It's a massive accomplishment.

CGY almost always touched the trophy and they went on to win 3 cups in their strong stretch.  And I bet they enjoyed celebrating it at the time!

Yoshi has always been the guardian of the West trophy... he's gone now.  Maybe they will touch it this year.  If there's no big voice for "not touching" then it'll organically just happen.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on November 04, 2024, 10:28:04 AMIf you're arguing for any other factor to be included, it means you're not talking about a dynasty, imo. We're just watering down the word.

How about a Western Dynasty then?  If wins are what count, we'll be on our 5th win in a row.

Bombers: A Western Dynasty
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Tehedra

I could agree to a Western Dynasty however is five years enough?  Much smaller scale so you would expect more wins before you could call it a Dynasty. 

bluengold204

Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 05, 2024, 12:10:05 AMHow about a Western Dynasty then?  If wins are what count, we'll be on our 5th win in a row.

Bombers: A Western Dynasty

Sounds like the equivalent of a participation trophy

TecnoGenius

Quote from: bluengold204 on November 05, 2024, 12:35:25 AMSounds like the equivalent of a participation trophy

Is winning the west "participation"?  How many teams would give their left dangly to win their division and play in the GC??

When we clobber SSK, how much would those players/fans trade to just have won that one game even if it meant losing the cup?

It's so easy for us to minimize winning the west because we basically do it every year now and it's old hat.  Think back to what winning the WDF would have meant to us in 2017 or 2018?  We're so spoiled now.

It's no small feat.  It's an amazing feat.  We should celebrate it!

What matters most is making the rest of the West cry, especially CGY and SSK.  I don't really care about MTL and TOR fans, all 5k of them.  Our rivalries are all in the West.  The gravy is: we can make them cry twice, once hosing their teams in the post-season, and once more by actually winning the cup this time!
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Blueforlife

Quote from: bluengold204 on November 05, 2024, 12:35:25 AMSounds like the equivalent of a participation trophy
Yeah going to the cup that many times in a row is a partication award.  Wow I have heard it all.

Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 05, 2024, 12:10:05 AMHow about a Western Dynasty then?  If wins are what count, we'll be on our 5th win in a row.

Bombers: A Western Dynasty

Again, to me, that's just watering down the word.

If you have to try to contextualize the word dynasty in order to make it fit, you're not talking about a dynasty.

Quote from: Blueforlife on November 05, 2024, 05:32:56 AMYeah going to the cup that many times in a row is a partication award.  Wow I have heard it all.

Of course it is.
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bluengold204

Quote from: Blueforlife on November 05, 2024, 05:32:56 AMYeah going to the cup that many times in a row is a partication award.  Wow I have heard it all.

It's literally that.  You get the right to participate in the grey cup if you win the west or east. 

TBURGESS

I don't care what you call it. This is the best run the Bombers have had in my lifetime and I'm 67. This is the time the younger folks will tell their grandkids about. 
Winnipeg Blue Bombers - 2019 Grey Cup Champs.

Blueforlife

Quote from: bluengold204 on November 05, 2024, 12:56:15 PMIt's literally that.  You get the right to participate in the grey cup if you win the west or east. 
Understating the achievement imo

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TBURGESS on November 05, 2024, 02:23:20 PMI don't care what you call it. This is the best run the Bombers have had in my lifetime and I'm 67. This is the time the younger folks will tell their grandkids about.

Holy TBurg! You okay? That's the most positive thing I think I've ever heard you say in (literally) almost 15 years of forum interactions. It's official folks, it's been a good time.

The Zipp

Quote from: TBURGESS on November 05, 2024, 02:23:20 PMI don't care what you call it. This is the best run the Bombers have had in my lifetime and I'm 67. This is the time the younger folks will tell their grandkids about.

and you have one man to thank for it - Micheal O'Shea


blue_gold_84

Quote from: The Zipp on November 05, 2024, 05:32:49 PMand you have one man to thank for it - Micheal O'Shea

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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 05, 2024, 05:52:30 PMThe Canadian Mafia is comprised of three capos. And to this day, they still keep Dave Dickenson up at night.

Dave became a Canadian citizen on Canada Day earlier this year, if you can't beat 'em join 'em!

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Yes, it has been a very good run for the Bombers, the best in my 65 years of existence. But dynasty's are defined by championship wins, not divisional titles. Does anyone care how many times a team wins the Division in the NHL or NFL--arguably much harder divisions to win consecutively than the CFL West. They win another Grey Cup, that would make it 3 in the last 5 championship games, I think they'd be considered a dynasty team as they've won 60% of the grey Cups they've been in in the last 5 years, lose and winning only 2 of the last 5 doesn't make them a dynasty, just a good consistent team.