Dynasty or Disappointment?

Started by Zach Schnitzer, November 01, 2024, 04:47:53 PM

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Zach Schnitzer

My take on the identity of the 2024 Winnipeg Blue Bombers and what needs improvement if they're to become a dynasty and lift the Cup this year. Love to hear your thoughts.

https://bonfiresports.ca/winnipegs-dynastic-endeavour/
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bomb squad

Quote from: Zach Schnitzer on November 01, 2024, 04:47:53 PMMy take on the identity of the 2024 Winnipeg Blue Bombers and what needs improvement if they're to become a dynasty and lift the Cup this year. Love to hear your thoughts.

https://bonfiresports.ca/winnipegs-dynastic-endeavour/

Well done. That covers a lot of it. I think you can break the regular season into 3 parts: 1. First 8 games, bit of a learning curve, with some spotty play, and some bad breaks; 2. Second 8 games, steady, gritty play. Championship caliber, but not quite dominating; 3. Last 2 games, performance dropped, but played hard and caught a huge break to grab top spot.

Overall, they are where they deserve to be. They can and need to play much better though to get past this Western Final game. One game at a time from here. 

bwiser

I look at the first part of the season as a bit of a rebuild. We had a lot of new players because of free agency, retirements and injuries.The Bombers seemed to turn things around near mid season and the rebuild was complete. We added a lot of new players this year but now these young players are starting to come into their own.

GOLDMEMBER

Ugh, this topic title gives me the creeps. I don't like it.
I LOSHT MY MEMBER IN AN UNFORTUNATE SHMELTING ACCSHIDENT!

BBRT

Very Loaded Question! From my perspective (and I have been a Bomber Fan for longer that I can remember and live and die with each win and loss) I see 2024 as a transition year. It is time to replace some older folks with younger folks and of course pay the penality for what takes place.

I think the organization under Wade Miller has done wonders when compared to previous adminstrations and hopefully things continue in a postive manner.

But bottom line - Better to have a Bomber Game than no Bomber game win or lose! :)

markf

#5
good analysis thanks!

Interesting that the Bombers have the best defence, and only three defence  allstars.

great coaching.


TecnoGenius

I say we're already a dynasty, especially when we make our 5th cup in a row in 1 week.  I don't think you have to win them all, just getting there is dynastyesque enough, because "any given Sunday".
Never go full Rider!

The Zipp

Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 02, 2024, 05:34:02 PMI say we're already a dynasty, especially when we make our 5th cup in a row in 1 week.  I don't think you have to win them all, just getting there is dynastyesque enough, because "any given Sunday".

wins = dynasty

appearances = a great team / organization

i realize it's just a word but we seem to be cheapening accomplishments and lowering the bar for them. 

my opinion you need at least three championship wins in a row to be a sports dynasty. 

dd

Quote from: The Zipp on November 02, 2024, 05:40:41 PMwins = dynasty

appearances = a great team / organization

i realize it's just a word but we seem to be cheapening accomplishments and lowering the bar for them. 

my opinion you need at least three championship wins in a row to be a sports dynasty. 
Agree. Wins, especially Grey Cup wins, define a dynasty. We're a very good organization that always fields a very competitive team. We need to win more championships to be deemed a dynasty. I think back to the old Edmonton Eskimos that won 5 in a row, or the Als when AC was in his prime, those were dynasty teams. We're just a good football team trying to win the big one.

Jesse

Quote from: The Zipp on November 02, 2024, 05:40:41 PMwins = dynasty

appearances = a great team / organization

i realize it's just a word but we seem to be cheapening accomplishments and lowering the bar for them. 

my opinion you need at least three championship wins in a row to be a sports dynasty. 

It's an amount of wins over a period of time.

We're still in the running for a "dynasty" title, but more appearances won't cut it.
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Ducky

Go to a 5th straight Grey Cup and WIN a 3rd = dynasty.

If they lose a third straight final OR dont even make it this year, then NO dynasty.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on November 03, 2024, 12:16:22 AMIt's an amount of wins over a period of time.

We're still in the running for a "dynasty" title, but more appearances won't cut it.

What if we make it to the GC for 10 years in a row, but lose all the rest.  Is that a dynasty?  I think it is.  We're locking out every other W team every time we get to the cup.  Most W teams would be ecstatic just to make it there (see: SSK).
Never go full Rider!

Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on November 03, 2024, 12:38:10 AMWhat if we make it to the GC for 10 years in a row, but lose all the rest.  Is that a dynasty?  I think it is.  We're locking out every other W team every time we get to the cup.  Most W teams would be ecstatic just to make it there (see: SSK).

Absolutely not.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on November 03, 2024, 12:38:52 AMAbsolutely not.

20 straight GC appearances with all the rest losses?  Dynasty?

100 straight GC appearances?

You ask all the other W teams what they think of us going to 5 or 10 or 20 straight.  They may grumble and cry, but it's a dynasty.

Now, change the equation to X straight appearances and we win half... surely that's a dynasty as X gets larger?
Never go full Rider!

Zach Schnitzer

For me dynasty is championships. Five straight cups would be incredible and a testament to our organization. But we need the Cup win.
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