Mark Kilam among 3 Stamps coaches relieved of duties

Started by Throw Long Bannatyne, October 30, 2024, 03:57:18 PM

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Sir Blue and Gold

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One of the issues in Calgary is the model. It's so hard to be the GM and HC. Their position seems to be the amount of work is manageable as the times one job is the busy the other is quieter, which is fair, but it doesn't account for the very real fact that Dickenson has to point all the flaws out in contract negotiation in February and then try to get that same player to outplay that contract in July.

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 31, 2024, 01:52:57 PMOne of the issues in Calgary is the model. It's so hard to be the GM and HC. Their position seems to be the amount of work is manageable as the times one job is the busy the other is quieter, which is fair, but it doesn't account for the very real fact that Dickenson has to point all the flaws out in contract negotiation in February and then try to get that same player to outplay that contract in July.

Also there was a lot of reports and evidence of disunity in the Stamps locker room this season, can't see them proceeding along on course as is without addressing that issue. 

As for HC jobs Kilam could apply for, I think both Dyce and Milanovich may have earned one more year for seasons that showed a glimmer of hope of better things to come but will remain on short leashes, so Edm. may be his only option. 

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 31, 2024, 04:34:23 PMAlso there was a lot of reports and evidence of disunity in the Stamps locker room this season, can't see them proceeding along on course as is without addressing that issue. 

As for HC jobs Kilam could apply for, I think both Dyce and Milanovich may have earned one more year for seasons that showed a glimmer of hope of better things to come but will remain on short leashes, so Edm. may be his only option. 
The way they handled Maier, I can see that dividing the locker room. Heck he wasn't the greatest but he was head and shoulders better than anything else they had and constantly yanking him made DD look brutal. I can see why players lost respect for him and don't want to play for him. He's part of the problem, yet his job is safe??? I just don't get it. Nothing will change as long as he's hanging around.

theaardvark

Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 31, 2024, 01:10:50 AMI've read rumors this Killam release was initiated by Killam.  If that's true then he probably was the HC-in-waiting but he got tired of waiting.  Or maybe he didn't want to inherit a team in 1-2 more years that is even worse than it is now?

If he got promoted at the worst time and the team flounders for 1-2 seasons he would probably get Claybrooksed.  Not many Prez/GMs(/fanbases!) are willing to give a team 4+ years to lose like we did MOS.

So both things can be true: Killam was the heir, and they released him.

Leaving for a team that is on the upswing (EDM, OTT, HAM) may be the smartest thing for his career.

I guess getting his release means no team has to ask permission to talk to him.  If he was ready to leave, this is the more efficient way to do it, I'm guessing.

Doesn't mean he has to come back as a CFL coach, there are always opportunities at the USports level.  Not sure NCAA is an option, he never played south of the border and his "expertise" is in a very 3 down aspect of the game.
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Quote from: dd on November 01, 2024, 01:03:17 AMThe way they handled Maier, I can see that dividing the locker room. Heck he wasn't the greatest but he was head and shoulders better than anything else they had and constantly yanking him made DD look brutal. I can see why players lost respect for him and don't want to play for him. He's part of the problem, yet his job is safe??? I just don't get it. Nothing will change as long as he's hanging around.

You have to wonder what kind of contract DD's under, and what incriminating film he has on Huff...
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: dd on November 01, 2024, 01:03:17 AMThe way they handled Maier, I can see that dividing the locker room. Heck he wasn't the greatest but he was head and shoulders better than anything else they had and constantly yanking him made DD look brutal. I can see why players lost respect for him and don't want to play for him. He's part of the problem, yet his job is safe??? I just don't get it. Nothing will change as long as he's hanging around.

Apparently the prolonged spat is between the rookies and the vets, with the rookies refusing to put in the extra work the vets believe is necessary to turn the team around.  What it lead to is rookies making errors all over the field costing the team wins.  In the one game Cameron Dukes walked up to a DB on the sidelines and headbutted him.

blue_gold_84

I feel bad for Demerio Houston... He's probably wondering "I left Winnipeg for this!?"

Stampeders organization in shambles.
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theaardvark

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 01, 2024, 03:43:00 PMI feel bad for Demerio Houston... He's probably wondering "I left Winnipeg for this!?"

Stampeders organization in shambles.

He left Winnipeg for a paycheck.  This is a job. 

Which is why some players will sign for less to play on a team they like playing for, where it isn't so much "just a job".

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dd

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 01, 2024, 03:43:00 PMI feel bad for Demerio Houston... He's probably wondering "I left Winnipeg for this!?"

Stampeders organization in shambles.
I don't feel bad for him at all, he left for more $$, and given there is no playoff money to factor into his salary, I wonder if he'll come out ahead in all of this. There's something to be said for liking the place you work at, and I doubt he likes where he's at now, and I don't see it getting any better as long as Dickie is around.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: theaardvark on November 01, 2024, 03:59:38 PMHe left Winnipeg for a paycheck.  This is a job. 

Which is why some players will sign for less to play on a team they like playing for, where it isn't so much "just a job".

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I wonder where Kilam will land and as what. Bombers don't need a new ST coach but Kilam is an experienced coach in other areas. It's too early to determine if we lose anybody in our ranks by choice or otherwise.

In general teams that had losing seasons will be the most probable landing spot.
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theaardvark

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 01, 2024, 08:23:41 PMI wonder where Kilam will land and as what. Bombers don't need a new ST coach but Kilam is an experienced coach in other areas. It's too early to determine if we lose anybody in our ranks by choice or otherwise.

In general teams that had losing seasons will be the most probable landing spot.

Doubt we'd see Killam here.  Too many in line for HC ahead of him here.

I think Elks or USports
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Quote from: theaardvark on November 01, 2024, 08:47:41 PMDoubt we'd see Killam here.  Too many in line for HC ahead of him here.

I think Elks or USports

He's not a HC candidate, lol.
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dd

He's not hc material , if he was he'd have been one by now

DM83

Dickerson should be coaching in the Billing's HS. Football league. Calgary had a great team a couple years ago, the. Wouldn't sign their guys. Awful management.