Mark Kilam among 3 Stamps coaches relieved of duties

[TecnoGenius]

But he does really need to get a new hairstylist.

Hey, I like his 90's Fabio look!  I never liked it on Fabio, but it works for Killam.  It's his trademark.  Besides, he's clearly trying to impress the ladies with that hair and manicured goatee.  Dude must still be single.

[ModAdmin]

That's crazy. Mark Kilam is one of the best ST coaches in the game.
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Wow, Killam has been with the Stamps for 20 years and he's cut loose!! I can see relieve him of his assistant HC duties, but outright cut him--there must have been a fall out with Dickie Doo

Fall with DD is my guess too.

[TecnoGenius]

I dunno.  It reeks of what SSK did last FA: they fired most everyone because they had to appear to be "doing something", but they left behind probably the main cause of all the problems: JOD.

They have to appear to be "doing something" because otherwise they can't placate the rabidly angry fans who are just about to quit.  They fire the nobodies or even the good people and say "look, we're doing drastic things! renew your STs!".

Ya, this is that.  Dickenson The Greater has been making bad decisions as GM, and horrific decisions as HC for at least 2 seasons now.  He makes non-book decisions/gambles in-game that leave the entire CFL fan base baffled and they fail 99% of the time.  He is completely hopeless and should be fired.

This is window dressing and I fully expect CGY to be bottom of the league again in 2025.

[dd]

Hey, I like his 90's Fabio look!  I never liked it on Fabio, but it works for Killam.  It's his trademark.  Besides, he's clearly trying to impress the ladies with that hair and manicured goatee.  Dude must still be single.

He looks like a caveman!!

[Jesse]

Wow!  Just wow!

Total gong show in CGY.  They are scapegoating all of the good guys that held that team up, and keeping all of the doorknobs that have dragged the team down.

Killam was so loyal and so patient because he was virtually assured the HC job.  Now they stole it from him (or he decided he didn't want to wait anymore).

No one will take any "gentleman's agreement" with Dickenson The Greater or Huff ever again.  Not that it will matter much as one or both may get fired after another garbage year in 2025...

If they just install Dickenson The Lesser as ST coach instead, the sleazy stink coming out of CGY will be detectable all the way to PEI.  Maybe they'll just loot the team of funds before leaving it in a hopeless shambles in 1 year.

Now, who needs a HC?  Killam on the market.  Unfortunately for him, I think all HC jobs are secure this FA.

Not sure where you got that or how you ever expected it to work.

Dave is the HC and is Mark is only a few years younger than him. Seemed like an unlikely scenario.

[dd]

The Stamps talent base has been steadily eroded over the past 5-7 years. They lost some big names to the NFL, then lost recievers, let RD Carey go, cut BLM, and replaced them with nothings/nobodies. Now they have a mess and its personnel.

[TecnoGenius]

Not sure where you got that or how you ever expected it to work.

Because CGY almost always promotes from within.  And The Greater was clearly floundering as a HC.  Just horrific decisions and mental lapses, going all the way back to the 2019 WSF and his challenge of nothing at all on a useless play that gets him basically nothing even if he wins.  And so many 3rd & 1s from the gun recently.

Age has nothing to do with it because both The Greater and Killam are still young enough to have long runs as HC.

And finally, clearly the goal was for Dickenson to move upstairs 100% and Huff retires for good -- as he sure is getting old & decrepit.  The succession was clearly laid out for all to see.  And no one else was there who could challenge Killam for the HC job.

I think CGY braintrust made a really bad decision here, and now when they do have to can The Greater, they'll be stuck looking to outside "alien" help.  It'll probably be a complete shakeup when that happens.  Can the team survive, especially adding in its stadium needs?

Just answer me this: did Killam cause CGY to lose any games this year?  Was he taking timecounts and TOs like Boo was briefly in HAM?  Was he any worse than Mike Miller?  No?  Then this is all window dressing and scapegoating.

[Jesse]

Because CGY almost always promotes from within.  And The Greater was clearly floundering as a HC.  Just horrific decisions and mental lapses, going all the way back to the 2019 WSF and his challenge of nothing at all on a useless play that gets him basically nothing even if he wins.  And so many 3rd & 1s from the gun recently.

Age has nothing to do with it because both The Greater and Killam are still young enough to have long runs as HC.

And finally, clearly the goal was for Dickenson to move upstairs 100% and Huff retires for good -- as he sure is getting old & decrepit.  The succession was clearly laid out for all to see.  And no one else was there who could challenge Killam for the HC job.

I think CGY braintrust made a really bad decision here, and now when they do have to can The Greater, they'll be stuck looking to outside "alien" help.  It'll probably be a complete shakeup when that happens.  Can the team survive, especially adding in its stadium needs?

Just answer me this: did Killam cause CGY to lose any games this year?  Was he taking timecounts and TOs like Boo was briefly in HAM?  Was he any worse than Mike Miller?  No?  Then this is all window dressing and scapegoating.

Did he show through consistent excellence that he was ready for a promotion?

[markf]

The CFL Coach of the Year trophy is named after Annis Stukus, former CFL player and coach, and the first GM of the WHL Jets... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annis_Stukus

sorry, yeah I know, quoted it cause I thought the phrase "because of all his success" was awkward  and funny...  I guess....I just do not like Dave.

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sorry, yeah I know, quoted it cause I thought the phrase "because of all his success" was awkward  and funny...  I guess....I just do not like Dave.

You are not alone on that one!!

[TecnoGenius]

Did he show through consistent excellence that he was ready for a promotion?

He was always highly touted by the team and his peers and the media.  His name is always being bandied about when HC jobs come up elsewhere.

And if you assume CGY grooms over the long term to promote from within, who on earth else would it be getting promoted?  Monson?  He's nobody, and was just canned too.  The OC: I can't even name you who it is.

So ya, I still think Killam was the plan.

But don't listen to me, someone should go see what the CGY forum is saying... assuming they have one.

[TecnoGenius]

CalgaryRiderFan @RiderFans has a point:

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2024 Kilam and Stamps parting ways = 2022 Riders and Maas parting ways, when it comes to "someone had to go"
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Watch Killam get a HC gig in EDM, HAM or OTT and get to the cup next season     

[TecnoGenius]

I've read rumors this Killam release was initiated by Killam.  If that's true then he probably was the HC-in-waiting but he got tired of waiting.  Or maybe he didn't want to inherit a team in 1-2 more years that is even worse than it is now?

If he got promoted at the worst time and the team flounders for 1-2 seasons he would probably get Claybrooksed.  Not many Prez/GMs(/fanbases!) are willing to give a team 4+ years to lose like we did MOS.

So both things can be true: Killam was the heir, and they released him.

Leaving for a team that is on the upswing (EDM, OTT, HAM) may be the smartest thing for his career.

[TecnoGenius]

That would make the situation like Younger's last year, except in Younger's case we opted to keep & promote him.  Killam is like Younger and insisted he be promoted NOW or he walks.

(This isn't rumor or hyperbole, MOS has stated many times Younger had to be promoted or he was gone.)

IMHO CGY has made a very very bad decision.  And it's so stupid, because everyone could have been happy if they had just moved DD to GM and Killam to HC.

[Jesse]

He was always highly touted by the team and his peers and the media.  His name is always being bandied about when HC jobs come up elsewhere.

And if you assume CGY grooms over the long term to promote from within, who on earth else would it be getting promoted?  Monson?  He's nobody, and was just canned too.  The OC: I can't even name you who it is.

So ya, I still think Killam was the plan.

But don't listen to me, someone should go see what the CGY forum is saying... assuming they have one.

My point is that Dickinson is HC and I don't think the plan was for anyone to be promoted for the time being and when the time came, Kilam wouldn't be an eligible candidate.