What's your opinion of successful season?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Not necessarily.  Because of all the injuries, many to the oldsters, we've gotten a premature (extended!) peek at many younger guys.  And many of them have proven worth keeping around.

For example, I think we've found our answer at MLB if Biggie retires.

Problem is there is no indication Biggie intends to retire, he's rehabbing to come back and play and chances are O'Shea plugs him right back in as the starter once he's healthy. I think it will take a Kyle intervention to do the right thing in the off-season and convince O'Shea to move on with the younger Jones.

[blue_gold_84]

Problem is there is no indication Biggie intends to retire, he's rehabbing to come back and play and chances are O'Shea plugs him right back in as the starter once he's healthy. I think it will take a Kyle intervention to do the right thing in the off-season and convince O'Shea to move on with the younger Jones.

Probably because it's too early to make any assumptions one way or the other right now.

There's certainly no need to make presumptuous criticisms of O'Shea right now, either. To say nothing of the ridiculous comment about a GM intervening.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Probably because it's too early to make any assumptions one way or the other right now.

There's certainly no need to make presumptuous criticisms of O'Shea right now, either. To say nothing of the ridiculous comment about a GM intervening.

Nothing so ridiculous about it, there is reason to believe both Kyle and Wade have intervened for changes in the past that O'Shea did not want to make. Even a few of the roster decisions made last off-season were likely not to O'Shea's preference. He's 3rd boss in the hierarchy of the mafia and doesn't always get his way.

[dd]

I think we d be smart to move on from the aging Bighill and the injured Schoen...no sense typing big $$ up on players can have found replacements for and arguably never missed a beat. I'd use the $$ to find us a killer DE and DT

[Sir Blue and Gold]

We need salary to upgrade the defensive line and if there's an o-line piece available we should do that too.

Better line play would probably win us the Grey Cup this year and I think the lack of pressure will ultimately result in us coming up a bit short.

You obviously need to spend it correctly but assuming the players are there for the signing you do it 100 times out of 100 and if it means losing a receiver or older MLB then it needs to be done.

[TecnoGenius]

I think we d be smart to move on from the aging Bighill and the injured Schoen...no sense typing big $$ up on players can have found replacements for and arguably never missed a beat. I'd use the $$ to find us a killer DE and DT

Our O has had only maybe 2 dominant games this season.  Every other game has been won by the D, or the other team being equally anemic or unlucky on O.

What would our O have looked like with Kenny & Schoen healthy at the same time?  (The first game doesn't count as no one was ready.)  Wheatie making mistakes worthy of Zach beration tells me our O is still off-kilter and definitely sub-optimal.  Zach having to direct guys to their spots with 5s left on the play clock in our final game also tells the tale.

So it's not a slam dunk what we do with overpaid Kenny & Schoen in 2025.  I think the best case is Schoen at least takes a big haircut.  Maybe Kenny too... did he get anywhere near 1000 this season?  (Even with injury, it's kind of expected.)  No team can tie up $525k+ in a tub-sitter and a sub-1000er.

I don't have the answers, but I do know the whole O has to be vastly improved next year for the amount of money we throw at them.  Otherwise let the big $$ walk and spend it all on D.

[blue_gold_84]

Nothing so ridiculous about it, there is reason to believe both Kyle and Wade have intervened for changes in the past that O'Shea did not want to make. Even a few of the roster decisions made last off-season were likely not to O'Shea's preference. He's 3rd boss in the hierarchy of the mafia and doesn't always get his way.

Do you have any proof to substantiate the claim in bold?

[Blue In BC]

Do you have any proof to substantiate the claim in bold?

Miller and Walters are making the SMS spend final decisions against the roster choices. Coaches will always want to retain players that are playing well, but it's never that easy managing the entire roster and SMS spend.

[blue_gold_84]

Miller and Walters are making the SMS spend final decisions against the roster choices. Coaches will always want to retain players that are playing well, but it's never that easy managing the entire roster and SMS spend.

I'm not sure that applies to the Bighill situation; he's past his prime. And everyone knows as much, O'Shea included.

I certainly agree it's never easy managing a roster and the SMS but from what I can tell, the Canadian Mafia works together to keep the machine running smoothly week in, week out. And I'd conclude that's evidenced by how successful this organization has been for some time.
I just don't really agree with narrative that Walters has had to intervene on roster decisions. And certainly not from an outsider's perspective and without any substantiation of that narrative.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Do you have any proof to substantiate the claim in bold?

Sorry to disappoint, but there is little concrete proof available for anything ever discussed on this forum, transparency of action and motives being a low value priority of this regime. FIFO doesn't just apply to the players, it's an "us against the world" statement. 

Two examples of interference from above I suspect are the Drew Willy demotion/trade and the greenlight given by Wade to re-sign both Schoen and Brady last season at whatever the cost. There were probably more of these incidents in the early days involving the hiring and firing of co-ordinators when the team was still struggling to find it's way. One thing for sure, it's not a good sign when Wade attends practice.

[blue_gold_84]

Sorry to disappoint, but there is little concrete proof available for anything ever discussed on this forum, transparency of action and motives being a low value priority of this regime. FIFO doesn't just apply to the players, it's an "us against the world" statement. 

Two examples of interference from above I suspectare the Drew Willy demotion/trade and the greenlight given by Wade to re-sign both Schoen and Brady last season at whatever the cost. There were probably more of these incidents in the early days involving the hiring and firing of co-ordinators when the team was still struggling to find it's way. One thing for sure, it's not a good sign when Wade attends practice.

Eh, it is what it is.

Couldn't disagree more with your take of the organization/regime, so I'll just leave it at that.

[GOLDMEMBER]

All a failure unless we win the grey cup.

[Blue In BC]

Always lots of thoughts regarding the team for the following season, regardless of how this season ends. It's always an interesting discussion / speculation.

Retirements, actual releases, free agency and the draft are all TBD. The corps should stay intact but like every off season there are some big questions. IIRC there are only a few players that will be potential free agents that will require significant raises like Ford.

I think the bigger questions will fall onto the status of some older vets that may or may not be returning.

[bluengold204]

If your not winning the grey cup the season is a failure

[dd]

Only one team can win the Grey Cup, so all the other teams had 'failure' seasons?!!? Ridiculous.

Calgary had a failure season!!

We started off poorly, but have went on quite a nice tear to win the Division and host the WF. That in itself is a success.

We uncovered/found new linebackers and recievers to replace some injured high priced help. That in itself is a success.

For sure I want us to win the Cup, but if we fall short, heck, we've had a decent season, I certainly wouldn't call it a failure if the unthinkable happens!!