Lucky Whitehead

[bunker]

Interesting comparison. I'm not sure I entirely agree but it is a valid thought. Brian Kelly was a precise route runner and faster IIRC. I don't think he was as physical as Schoen.

I'd suggest Ben Cahoon in Montreal might be a comparison as well. He was very tough to defend and always a guy looked at to make a 2nd down conversion over the middle.

I thought of Cahoon also. The other one that came to mind was Andy Fantuz.

[Jesse]

I thought of Cahoon also. The other one that came to mind was Andy Fantuz.

Fantuz might be the best one I've heard

Maybe why Zach loves Schoen so much.

[DM83]

What are you guys smoking.?

Schoen will unlikely return. His knee like Strevlor, is broke.  The rigors of football won't allow it.  Woli has already been replaced. Same as Schoen.

Bombers will probably retain the ancient O line for the Grey Cup at home.
They will also likely pick up some free agents. The last hurrah.

If smart the bombers would go after the guy in Montreal.

[Blue In BC]

Using the tax loophole to give a player a net salary increase over another offer of more money with less upfront is literally scamming the system.

You do it for an advantage, and take the risk of getting Schoen the issue with it.

Every team can make the same offer with or without the tax advantage. If everybody can do the same thing it's not a scam or advantage.

Not every team will have the same interest or need of a player at a specific position. Teams may choose to spend their cash on improvements elsewhere on the roster.

Teams lose Canadian players as well. At some point teams decide how much is too much for their team and / or have the next man up in place.

[ichabod_crane]

Not sure what his bonus structure was last year, but there would have been no reason not to give him one then, he's been very healthy, missing only 2 games in 2 years.

Fitting him into the $SMS might have needed the tax break of signing bonuses, if he lives in one of "those" states.

Walters / MOS are going to have an even tougher time this off season.  We do have ELC guys that have stepped up, and while letting Sheed walk last year left a hole to be filled, any of the the top WR's could walk and we already have the replacement on the roster.  Any five of Demski, Lawler, Wolitarsky, Schoen, Wilson, Clercius, Lucky would be a solid corps.  Without having to rely on finding a next man up, although there are already guys like Wheatfall and Case identified for backup spots.

Did Rashid Bailey get picked up by someone after the Argos cut him? If he was, sure not really not in any CFL news since then. Another free agent option possibly.

[Blue In BC]

Did Rashid Bailey get picked up by someone after the Argos cut him? If he was, sure not really not in any CFL news since then. Another free agent option possibly.

He was on the Redblack PR.

[TecnoGenius]

Did Rashid Bailey get picked up by someone after the Argos cut him? If he was, sure not really not in any CFL news since then. Another free agent option possibly.

Say what you want about Sheed... now that the season is over, ask yourselves: would Sheed have been better than Wheatfall?  Wheatfall is clearly our last-read IMP.  He hasn't done too much, and is miffing Zach now.

I think it's clear now the extra $30k to retain Sheed instead of Wheatie would have been worth it, even if it meant we were over cap.

Hindsight... but still.

[Jesse]

Say what you want about Sheed... now that the season is over, ask yourselves: would Sheed have been better than Wheatfall?  Wheatfall is clearly our last-read IMP.  He hasn't done too much, and is miffing Zach now.

I think it's clear now the extra $30k to retain Sheed instead of Wheatie would have been worth it, even if it meant we were over cap.

Hindsight... but still.

Assuming all our receivers stayed healthy - we'd be comparing Sheed to Wilson, not Wheatfall.

[theaardvark]

Say what you want about Sheed... now that the season is over, ask yourselves: would Sheed have been better than Wheatfall?  Wheatfall is clearly our last-read IMP.  He hasn't done too much, and is miffing Zach now.

I think it's clear now the extra $30k to retain Sheed instead of Wheatie would have been worth it, even if it meant we were over cap.

Hindsight... but still.

When Sheed was not signed, our starting 5 was Schoen, Lawler, Demski, Wolitarski and random ELC guy.  Who ends up being Wilson.

Losing Schoen and Woli meant hitting the DC, and Wheatfall filled in until Lucky came in as a returner + WR.  Case was there too.  Clercius took Woli's spot rather nicely considering he's a rookie. 

After Schoen and Oliviera signed, Sheed was a luxury that was not in the cards.  And with Wilson, Clercius and Lucky filling in admirably, hard to make that "rehire".

I wanted Sheed back, for sure, but I get the roster management decisions.

[ichabod_crane]

When Sheed was not signed, our starting 5 was Schoen, Lawler, Demski, Wolitarski and random ELC guy.  Who ends up being Wilson.

Losing Schoen and Woli meant hitting the DC, and Wheatfall filled in until Lucky came in as a returner + WR.  Case was there too.  Clercius took Woli's spot rather nicely considering he's a rookie. 

After Schoen and Oliviera signed, Sheed was a luxury that was not in the cards.  And with Wilson, Clercius and Lucky filling in admirably, hard to make that "rehire".

I wanted Sheed back, for sure, but I get the roster management decisions.

So now that Ottawa is OUT, does Sheed become a FA on the practice roster. Maybe he comes back next season with a reality check.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

So now that Ottawa is OUT, does Sheed become a FA on the practice roster. Maybe he comes back next season with a reality check.

Nah, this season was his reality check, he was doing well on the Argos and they still cut him.  I think it comes down to his personality being hard to accommodate.

[theaardvark]

So now that Ottawa is OUT, does Sheed become a FA on the practice roster. Maybe he comes back next season with a reality check.

If  Schoen is not resigned, or Lawler, or even Lucky and Sheed wants to come back, there could be a spot for him, IF MOS wants him.

I don't know why Toronto cut him, they said $SMS, or why he didn't get on the field in OTT, we have no idea what his fitness/mental status is, and with another year on the books, its not likely better.

He had a reality check last year, and another this year.  Even if both Lawler and Schoen move on, it might be a stretch for him returning.

[TecnoGenius]

Assuming all our receivers stayed healthy - we'd be comparing Sheed to Wilson, not Wheatfall.

Except Schoen was knocked out in, what, game 2?  Bailey was available mid-season... we still could have made a move.  And then again late-season with him rotting on a PR.

If we assumed we had a gem in Pokey, then Wheatfall was still our only contingency plan if/when an IMP got injured.

Yes, I understand the difficulty in hiring Bailey before week 1 @$120k and then putting him on the PR whilst starting an ELC Pokey... Still, is there some law that says PR RECs have to only be ELC guys?  What do other teams do?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Except Schoen was knocked out in, what, game 2?  Bailey was available mid-season... we still could have made a move.  And then again late-season with him rotting on a PR.

If we assumed we had a gem in Pokey, then Wheatfall was still our only contingency plan if/when an IMP got injured.

Yes, I understand the difficulty in hiring Bailey before week 1 @$120k and then putting him on the PR whilst starting an ELC Pokey... Still, is there some law that says PR RECs have to only be ELC guys?  What do other teams do?

They don't employ 3 of the top 5 paid receivers in the CFL!

[dd]

Let's flip this the other way, wonder if bailey regrets signing with the Argos for a paltry $30k, only to be cut and end up on the dead black practice roster, wonder if he regrets thinking the grass was greener elsewhere. Stay here, be the #4 receiver and play on a winning team. He never saw the extra money he signed for because he got cut and the pew rice roster pays absolute peanuts. Shoulda left well enough alone

And he won't be back here next year, that ship has left the port and ain't com8ng back.BB have moved on and rightfully so