The Good Bad and the Ugly

Started by bwiser, October 05, 2024, 02:16:18 PM

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towelie

Quote from: towelie on October 06, 2024, 04:27:09 AMWilson was definitely pulled from the game either by a spotter or the team. Looked like he was ready to go then was gone. Hoping it's just precautionary.

Patty Neufeld was noticeablely nursing his injury on the sideline

That's all I got. Ayers went off with the trainers right away but I didn't see the injury. And I didn't even notice Alexander was out til I heard the post game



Griffin was being worked on by the trainers a bit on the sideline too but kept rotating in and out so I'd imagine he's fine

Stats Junkie

Quote from: towelie on October 05, 2024, 08:09:35 PMSheahan and Castillo out dueled badly on punts and kickoff

Quote from: bunker on October 05, 2024, 05:54:35 PMSheehan actually was good today
Jamieson Sheahan had a very good game.

5 punts from Winnipeg side of centre with a gross average of 48.4 and a net of 41.4
2 punts from Hamilton side of centre with both punts pinning Hamilton inside the 20

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6 punts from Hamilton side of centre with a gross average of 47.0 and a net of 37.7
2 punts from Winnipeg side of centre & only one pinning Winnipeg inside the 20

I'd give the edge to Sheahan in both situations.

Prior to Sheahan's 2nd punt of the game, Doug Brown commented that he didn't think that Sheahan had the leg to compete with other punters in the league. Derek Taylor commented as they went to commercial that the punt was 50 yards in the air (46 yard net).


Terry Wilson has been very good as the short yardage QB thus far. I like the way he gets low and drives forward. Wilson is 12 for 12 on short yardage plays including 2 for 2 when 2 yards in required and 3 for 3 on 3rd down.


The 'Illegal Low Block" penalty on A.C. Leonard was a weak call. It also eliminated an 8 yard run by Brady Oliveira.

At 12:44 of the 4th quarter it appeared as though Kiondre Smith was contemplating the onside punt that Jeshrun Antwi has mastered. I liked the way Nick Hallett & Redha Kramdi rallied to the ball preventing (perhaps) Smith from executing the play. It can be defended!
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on October 05, 2024, 03:44:05 PMDo not like the way Kasotonis plays, very violent hits on defenseless recievers, but he keeps getting away with it. I just don't get it in this day and age of player safety and concerns over concussions

Katsotonis(sp?) has been like that since day 1.  He's kind of like a shorter Loffler, with more beef -- slightly out of control.  I bet HAM fans & the coaches love it though.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: 15 Eagles on October 05, 2024, 05:12:54 PMGonna only comment on the ugly. The Bombers have the best fans in the league. Hammy has to have one of the worst. You could hear a pin drop all game Think my kids football team fans made more noise

That really just started this season.  Last season they were still packing the stands, and certainly the years before.

All the ones I talked to at the '23 GC were telling me how depressed they were that BLM was going to still be the QB.  No one had any faith in him.  No one wanted him.  But no one knew who else they could take...
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: bunker on October 05, 2024, 05:54:35 PMBad:
Zach was generally good, but he gifted Hamilton 2 interceptions right in their hands that they dropped, and overthrew an open Demski on a post pattern

There were a couple of those deep tries.  They failed because the R was being accosted most of the way by the DBs, thus throwing off the timing that Zach expects.

Zach is throwing to a spot with a timer in his head.  If jams or molestation slow the R down even slightly, it'll appear as an overthrow -- when in fact Zach threw it perfectly.

I'm not sure what the solution is, other than getting a jump on the DBs.  Give credit to HAM for doing their film study and defending the routes we used in the previous game.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: barbk on October 06, 2024, 12:17:08 AMGood:
First TD from Kevens Clercius and his TD celebration with the salsa dance.
The adjustments made at half time with Buck Pierce and Jordan Younger. (and Willie J giving the game ball to Younger)
The 8 game win streak

Ugly:
The head ref with no personality sounding like a robot.  (Ben Major - is the best)

My (very young) daughter pointed out the Emperor Clercius dance.  She loved it!  We were trying to imitate it while we were celebrating.  Kids really like that stuff.

The adjustments were phenomenal.  The first half was slow and evenly matched -- the winner was going to be who out-chessed the other.  Glad our braintrust is brainier.

The ref: I call him Commander Data.  He's not a bad ref, just has a freaky demeanor.  Like a good doctor with no bedside manner.  Maybe he needs to start sprucing his act up, like First Down Foxcroft used to.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Stats Junkie on October 07, 2024, 06:25:19 AMAt 12:44 of the 4th quarter it appeared as though Kiondre Smith was contemplating the onside punt that Jeshrun Antwi has mastered. I liked the way Nick Hallett & Redha Kramdi rallied to the ball preventing (perhaps) Smith from executing the play. It can be defended!

Hallett 21 has the fastest closing speed in the CFL I think.  It is insane.  He is the perfect flat-roaming spy, as he can be in semi-coverage yet near-instantly be right on top of a QB or RB or anyone else doing near-LoS shenanigans.

Cole might be a close second, tied with Kramdi.

What did you think of the Lucky DPI?
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J5V

Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 07, 2024, 09:20:25 AMWhat did you think of the Lucky DPI?
I thought he was being mugged and played it perfectly.

I was kind of, meh, when we first signed him but he has impressed the hell out of me. I love his ball security. Considering how often he touches the ball, it's important.

He's a very smart athlete.
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bwiser

Whitehead has been an upgrade over what we had earlier in the season but I do wish he would catch more balls in the air instead of letting them bounce.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: J5V on October 07, 2024, 12:38:18 PMI was kind of, meh, when we first signed him but he has impressed the hell out of me. I love his ball security. Considering how often he touches the ball, it's important.

He's a very smart athlete.

Lucky has matured so much, and honed his craft so well.  He's way more of a player than he was when he left here.  I think he also takes his job way more seriously.  My guess is he's turned into a real MOS type of hard worker.

Quote from: bwiser on October 07, 2024, 10:23:18 PMWhitehead has been an upgrade over what we had earlier in the season but I do wish he would catch more balls in the air instead of letting them bounce.

He has bad hands, that applies to returns as much as receiving.  Need to play to his strengths, which is catching balls in the numbers.  He's a known quantity and is unlikely to change much at this point.  But he can be a good chess piece.

He's certainly earned a spot on the AR is we go to the GC tomorrow.
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theaardvark

Lucky is a showman, and likes the spotlight.  I think Osh has let him know that's not a WFC thing.  "Act like you've been there before" is more the motto here, arriving with a propeller beanie on a scooter isn't the way an Osh team works.  And its not like we need gimmicks to fill the stands right now.

Lucky has buckled down, focused and become a better player because of it.  And we are fortunate he has.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on October 08, 2024, 04:49:08 AMLucky has matured so much, and honed his craft so well.  He's way more of a player than he was when he left here.  I think he also takes his job way more seriously.  My guess is he's turned into a real MOS type of hard worker.

He has bad hands, that applies to returns as much as receiving.  Need to play to his strengths, which is catching balls in the numbers.  He's a known quantity and is unlikely to change much at this point.  But he can be a good chess piece.

He's certainly earned a spot on the AR is we go to the GC tomorrow.

I've seen Lucky drop countless deep balls both in BC and in Wpg., if there's any level of difficulty making the catch while running he's unlikely to come down with the ball. He's fortunate if he can draw a PI penalty cause he's not likely to catch it. That said he handles the inside routes well and finds space in tight, wish they would use him that way more, especially in the redzone.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 08, 2024, 04:26:22 PMI've seen Lucky drop countless deep balls both in BC and in Wpg., if there's any level of difficulty making the catch while running he's unlikely to come down with the ball.

100% yes, he just sucks with his hands.  However, that doesn't preclude the deep ball... it just has to be dropped perfectly over his shoulder in stride or he has to have enough of a jump to be able to turn around and gut-catch it.

So it can be done, but Zach and the timing have to be perfect.

I will say I appreciate Lucky diving for the deep EZ shot last game.  So many of our players won't dive for anything (Schoen especially, also Demski).  I like how Pokey isn't afraid to dive (and he has hands!), and Kenny will go for basically anything.  I miss the ol' Dressler / Flying Hawaiian vibes that the CFL is so sorely lacking these days.
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TecnoGenius

Watching the replay of the HAM game I noticed Lucky was doing exactly that on his DPI attempt... he was running backwards looking for a gut catch.  This is what we need Lucky to do on those.  However, the defender was draped all over him, so that's a tough play to make.
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towelie

Lucky is what he is. I just can't believe we haven't upgraded our return game yet this year. Whether it be the blocking scheme or the returner. Lucky has been the best for us this year but not really saying a lot...